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Re: my new m3
« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2008, 09:26:23 PM »
Too bad you are not me because I would have got some tools, webpages, WD40, and open that M3 up.
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Re: my new m3
« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2008, 10:33:56 PM »
Oh I'm fixing to. The hamm tech I've been talking seems to think it just needs oil. Where do I put it.
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Re: my new m3
« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2008, 11:43:47 AM »
If the M3 is anything like the other Hammonds, there should be oiling cups in the organ. The cups funnel into these long "pipes". This oiling system allows each part of the TWG to be lubricated. Fill the cups up and wait 2 or 3 weeks for the oil to work its way to each part.

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Re: my new m3
« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2008, 08:29:38 PM »
The beauty of these organs is that you can work on them yourself.  If you`re new to the inside of a Hammond, get some help first---it`s out there.  Capt. Foldback for instance, has an engineering degree in electronics, and another acoustic design, plus is also a guitarist!  we`ll keep working on this until it`s solved.  I don`t have a webcam yet, but if you know somebody who can stream video to the internet from their cell-phone, we might be able to comunicate well enough so I can take a peek and a listen in real-time.....

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Re: my new m3
« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2008, 09:54:24 PM »
I emailed the captain and the tonewheel general guy. I'll p.m. You when they email me back.
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Re: my new m3
« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2008, 10:35:28 PM »
Thanks!  I`ll be anxious to hear their slant on this.  Since they work on these all day, they`ll have some helpful ideas.  Have you put any Hammond oil in yet?

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Re: my new m3
« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2008, 10:36:56 PM »
Don't ask Lars too many questions. I won't get into details but I've had dealings with him and we don't see eye to eye.

Rick Prevallet is a great guy who I have a great respect for. He knows his stuff and I trust his judgment.

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Re: my new m3
« Reply #27 on: September 25, 2008, 07:28:13 AM »
Ok. No not yet I got to order some oil.
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Re: my new m3
« Reply #28 on: September 25, 2008, 12:02:28 PM »
have you checked a few simple things? one-did you move it with the generator locked down?-if not;look for loose wires 2) All tubes lit? 3) wires from back of drawbars come loose+ no tones 4) if key contacts are dirty;hit each key like 30 times  BEFORE you stick your fingers inside your HAMMOND;look out-serious voltage-know where you are going 1 st-there is enough juice to KILL

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Re: my new m3
« Reply #29 on: September 25, 2008, 02:48:25 PM »
Oh wow thanks for scaring the crap out of me!!!!!
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Re: my new m3
« Reply #30 on: September 25, 2008, 03:58:57 PM »
Just unplug it first and you'll be fine. There may come a point in time when you need to take some readings with a voltage meter, which then you will need it plugged in and turned on. Just use common sense and you'll do fine.  :)

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Re: my new m3
« Reply #31 on: September 28, 2008, 06:55:14 AM »
a little caution is a GOOD thing bro,wanna keep u around LONG enough to hear some good things-don't want to rapture you outta here ha ha

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Re: my new m3
« Reply #32 on: September 28, 2008, 08:04:10 AM »
Just use common sense and you'll do fine.  :)

Common sense to me is calling a tech :D

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« Reply #33 on: September 28, 2008, 12:51:11 PM »
Common sense to me is calling a tech :D

I'm right there with ya bro! I know when to quit. :)

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Re: my new m3
« Reply #34 on: October 07, 2008, 07:39:15 PM »
apostoliczak,

Did you ever get anything done with your M3? It's been a while since you've posted anything so I thought I'd ask.

You know, I said use a little common sense and you'll be alright...here's a perfect example. Last night I had removed my Leslie 21H amp from the cabinet to look some things over. I removed the canned capacitor and tubes from the amp before flipping it over. The Leslie had been on that day, but that was about 2 or 3 hours prior to this. When I put the tubes back in, I went to grab the canned capacitor and wasn't paying attention. I touched the leads and got a nice "little" zap. It was about a half hour before my hand started feeling better. I don't mind saying that was an experience I don't wish to repeat.

Just to prove how long these capacitors can hold a charge, I waited until this afternoon before I touched it again so keep in mind, this had been a full 24 hours since the Leslie was turned on. I touched each lead with a screw driver (with a rubber handle) to discharge the capacitor completely and it still had some juice left in it. Each lead I would touch would create a blue spark with an audible pop.

The reason I discharged the capacitor as opposed to simply putting it back in the amp again was because last night when the thing zapped me, I instinctively threw it across the room and the leads were bent. I had to discharge it so I could bend them back in place.

I've touched capacitors only minutes after disconnecting power and never received a shock, despite what I've read online. However, electrolytic caps can apparently hold a charge indefinitely.
So this is just another reason why I say, BE CAREFUL! All of this could've been prevented had I used a little common sense last night, lol.  ;D

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Re: my new m3
« Reply #35 on: October 07, 2008, 09:48:21 PM »
I touched each lead with a screw driver (with a rubber handle) to discharge the capacitor completely and it still had some juice left in it.

This is what I heard an organ repair guy say do when he worked on and organ.
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Re: my new m3
« Reply #36 on: October 08, 2008, 05:54:09 AM »
been there,done that RMS;the caps in a hammond can hold a charge a LOOOONGGGG time.had a tech tell me he used to go fishing and toss caps in the H2o to stun the fish,careful folks

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Re: my new m3
« Reply #37 on: October 08, 2008, 04:00:05 PM »
I touched each lead with a screw driver (with a rubber handle) to discharge the capacitor completely and it still had some juice left in it. Each lead I would touch would create a blue spark with an audible pop.
Shouldn't you connect the cap leads to a ground of some sort?  That's what I have heard and I always do that.
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Re: my new m3
« Reply #38 on: October 08, 2008, 04:55:22 PM »
Shouldn't you connect the cap leads to a ground of some sort?  That's what I have heard and I always do that.

With high voltage, probably so. A couple of screwdrivers, a couple of jumper cables, and a 20K 2 watt ceramic resistor would be the proper way. The capacitor I discharged didn't have enough juice left to warrant going to the trouble - probably less than 50VDC.

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Re: my new m3
« Reply #39 on: October 08, 2008, 05:03:12 PM »
Where is Zak? I hope and pray he didnt hurt himself by takin yalls advice....
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