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[praizeHim]

Hi Guys!

Merry Christmas to you All!  It's just a Leetle bit too quiat round here

Some of you may remember a little over a year ago I entered the Vickie Winans Singer Songwriter Contest.... and "cough, cough," didn't win  :'( 

Kenton Rogers, who sung the entry, was also dropping a new CD Single, called "Confession of a Preacha Man"

At the time, the song received mixed reactions, and what I found surprising or maybe not, that the general congregation who regularly attended church HATED the song.

On the other hand, 1st ladies (for the most part) LOVED the song, as well as people who did not attend church on a regular basis.

I'm putting the video here to get the LGM effect!

Don't be shy (I know you won't) and give your true feelings about the Song, It's Content, The message that's being portrayed and any other comments you'd like to leave.

I don't KNOW WHY 2 videos are posting I checked the code, but **Mod Edit--fixed for ya **

THANKS MOD 

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Thanks for taking a peek!

[malthumb]

Oh, what the heck....I'll go....

• MUSIC:
I liked the guitar, the drums, the bass.  Wasn't too thrilled with the keys.  Seemed to be too easy and repetitive (of course, I don't PLAY keys myself, but I know what I like and that wasn't it)

• VOCALS:
Tight.  Kenton Rogers can sing.  His backups sounded good.

• CONTENT:
Wow.  Let's see.....I wanna write a song....I wanna make sure it NEVER gets played in church....Oooo! Got an  idea!.....CD?  Maybe.  Concert?  Oh why not?  House of worship?  Puh-leeze! 

• MESSAGE:
Might have worked if the confessions were of a Christian man, and there was some form of resolution.  Instead, it's just saying, "Hey, this could be YOUR pastor."  Okay....so then what should a church or a Christian do to make it right?  We never get that.  This would be a hit for people who want to stand back and say "See!  That's why I don't mess around with church.  Just a bunch of hypocrites."  This song just says "sho' ya right".



So, is this gonna be like the '90s?  Somebody gonna do an "answer" song?

Peace,

James

[sistagurl]

I don't care much for the lyrics but I like the music..

[praizeHim]

Oh, what the heck....I'll go....

• MUSIC:
I liked the guitar, the drums, the bass.  Wasn't too thrilled with the keys.  Seemed to be too easy and repetitive (of course, I don't PLAY keys myself, but I know what I like and that wasn't it)

• VOCALS:
Tight.  Kenton Rogers can sing.  His backups sounded good.

• CONTENT:
Wow.  Let's see.....I wanna write a song....I wanna make sure it NEVER gets played in church....Oooo! Got an  idea!.....CD?  Maybe.  Concert?  Oh why not?  House of worship?  Puh-leeze! 

• MESSAGE:
Might have worked if the confessions were of a Christian man, and there was some form of resolution.  Instead, it's just saying, "Hey, this could be YOUR pastor."  Okay....so then what should a church or a Christian do to make it right?  We never get that.  This would be a hit for people who want to stand back and say "See!  That's why I don't mess around with church.  Just a bunch of hypocrites."  This song just says "sho' ya right".



So, is this gonna be like the '90s?  Somebody gonna do an "answer" song?

Peace,

James

James, dude LOVE the concise ANALYSIS!

BUT Kenton is an Apostle and a Pastor  Did I forget to say that?  And this is only PART I  There is more

[praizeHim]

I don't care much for the lyrics but I like the music..

Sista gurl,

What about the lyrics didn't you like,  if you'd care to share!

[sistagurl]

Well me personally... I don't like it when people use slang in gospel music. It just automatically turns me off to it.

There's a gospel song called "Pull Your Pants Up". While I agree with everything the song is saying. I don't like the song, LOL. I can't expain in detail...Just don't like it.

[praizeHim]

Well me personally... I don't like it when people use slang in gospel music. It just automatically turns me off to it.

There's a gospel song called "Pull Your Pants Up". While I agree with everything the song is saying. I don't like the song, LOL. I can't expain in detail...Just don't like it.

Let me see if I can help you

Most of the feedback we received from "regular church goers/christians" was.....

"I don't like "A Man will be what a Man will be... that's completely against the word"

"He's talking about his "manhood RISING" ... that's just nasty"

"He's smiling when he's singing it"

"My pastor would never do nuthin like that"

These are just a few of the comments....

What I will say, is most people overlook the part of the song where he's crying out for repentence  "Please Forgive Me.... O Wretched Man that I am"

I hear what you're saying about slang, but I'm not actually sure what you're saying

Gospel music is not reverential,  (Ahhh  LAWD to HEP HERE I GO)

It should be inspiring, Life changing and challenging to effect change in the lives of those who DON'T KNOW HIM! not to comfort, soothe or accomodate pew dwellers/leaders in their comfort zone

No disrespect intended

[sistagurl]

Let me see if I can help you

Most of the feedback we received from "regular church goers/christians" was.....

"I don't like "A Man will be what a Man will be... that's completely against the word"

"He's talking about his "manhood RISING" ... that's just nasty"

"He's smiling when he's singing it"

"My pastor would never do nuthin like that"These are just a few of the comments....

What I will say, is most people overlook the part of the song where he's crying out for repentence  "Please Forgive Me.... O Wretched Man that I am"

I hear what you're saying about slang, but I'm not actually sure what you're saying

Gospel music is not reverential,  (Ahhh  LAWD to HEP HERE I GO)

It should be inspiring, Life changing and challenging to effect change in the lives of those who DON'T KNOW HIM! not to comfort, soothe or accomodate pew dwellers/leaders in their comfort zone

No disrespect intended

None taken, those are other peoples comments, not mine, lol.

What inspires me and moves my soul may not another person but I don't put it down. "I" just don't "feel" it.
I just like certain types of gospel but that doesn't mean all the rest is wrong....

[praizeHim]

None taken, those are other peoples comments, not mine, lol.

What inspires me and moves my soul may not another person but I don't put it down. "I" just don't "feel" it.
I just like certain types of gospel but that doesn't mean all the rest is wrong....

Gotcha and thanks for your views!

[under13]

Meh.

So is that suposed to be a Gospel song? Was he singing about Christ? No. So I would not even consider that a gospel song. I will consider that an Rnb song, and In my opinion its pretty wack. I'm not feelin the music, and the lyrics were just "meh".

As for him making a preacher who does wrong as his main character in his story.... this is a free country and he can sing about whatever he wants. Its not as if that scenario doesent actually happen. If you dont like the song, then do like I'm gonna do and dont listen to it.

[Mysteryman]

Makes you want to pull out that little black book you were supposed to burn when you got saved. lol At the end Im sure there were some sisters saying you know you wrong for that and then slip him their numbers.

[LaylaMonroe]

Meh.

So is that suposed to be a Gospel song? Was he singing about Christ? No. So I would not even consider that a gospel song. I will consider that an Rnb song, and In my opinion its pretty wack. I'm not feelin the music, and the lyrics were just "meh".

As for him making a preacher who does wrong as his main character in his story.... this is a free country and he can sing about whatever he wants. Its not as if that scenario doesent actually happen. If you dont like the song, then do like I'm gonna do and dont listen to it.

That's exactly what I was thinking, but I haven't listened to the clip yet, so I didn't want to comment.  But based on everyone's comments, it surely doesn't sound like gospel to me.    (Not that there's something wrong with that... I'm just saying).

...BUT Kenton is an Apostle and a Pastor  Did I forget to say that?

1. I don't see what this has to do with James's feedback, and
2. What organization is he with?

[praizeHim]

Meh.

So is that suposed to be a Gospel song? Was he singing about Christ? No. So I would not even consider that a gospel song. I will consider that an Rnb song, and In my opinion its pretty wack. I'm not feelin the music, and the lyrics were just "meh".

As for him making a preacher who does wrong as his main character in his story.... this is a free country and he can sing about whatever he wants. Its not as if that scenario doesent actually happen. If you dont like the song, then do like I'm gonna do and dont listen to it.

Thank you u13

I've read a lot of your posts and know you're not!

No it's not a "Gospel Song" in the traditional sense.  Gospel is the Good News of Jesus... and as members of the Body, we're to share and spread the Good News.

The good news begins when we can speak about our own shortcomings before we can condemn the world to hell.

God HATES SIN! And if we are to effectively communicate the Word of God, we gotta clean up our act, i.e. the Church.

As you've stated it is a free country and your choices are your own, I do appreciate your participation, many have viewed and not commented.

The philosophy behind the song....well believe me....there is one!

Thanks again,

praiZe

[praizeHim]

Thank you  LaRue!

1. I don't see what this has to do with James's feedback, and
2. What organization is he with?

Might have worked if the confessions were of a Christian man, and there was some form of resolution.

1. James made reference that this perhaps wasn't a "CHRISTIAN" perspective

2.The organization is the Body of Christ

[BigFoot_BigThumb]

Ok, here are my thoughts.......

The music is sexy.  It sets the mood for the song.

The lyrics do indeed tell a story.  Sure this type of thing happens everyday.  But, within this story, he made no real attempt to stop himself and just gave in.  Sure he asked for forgiveness, but made no reference or promise not to do it ever again.  He just chalked it up to being a man.  It's almost as if it's all on the female and he just fell prey to her power. 

And as usual, the crowd ate it up.  If it was a bunch of church folks doing all of that whopping, then what's really going on?  This song may have even gotten him some play from the ladies believe it or not and he may have gotten a few numbers or somebody showed up at his house after the show.  Don't want to say there's a motive in the message with the song, but you never know with some people.  I would have received it better if the subject had stated that he can practice some self control in the future because of his calling and not allow himself to fall.  But I can see this song doing well in the mainstream more than the gospel world because people eat this stuff up.

To really sum this song up, if that man is just "being what a man will be," then that man aint really ready to be a "Preacha Man."   

[Loopy]

Meh.

So is that suposed to be a Gospel song? Was he singing about Christ? No. So I would not even consider that a gospel song. I will consider that an Rnb song, and In my opinion its pretty wack. I'm not feelin the music, and the lyrics were just "meh".

Yep. This about sums it up for me, ESPECIALLY the part in bold. Definitely not something I would spin in my CD player at all. Just my honest lil' $0.02 as a music connoisseur. 

Thanks for posting, pH! Good to hear from you again!

[LaylaMonroe]

Thank you  LaRue!


1. James made reference that this perhaps wasn't a "CHRISTIAN" perspective

2.The organization is the Body of Christ

1. I took James's statement a little differently...  

2.  

I feel like Marvin Winans... lol.  Bring back the days of yay and nay...  

These offices and titles have so little meaning today; it's a bit disheartening.  That's the only reason I asked.  I wasn't trying to be a jerk or anything.  I guess I'm just stuck in the 70s or 80s.  When I was younger, a bishop was an old, gray-haired man who oversaw tens or scores of churches and hosted annual conferences or convocations with all the different churches.  He was so highly revered and, at least to the public eye, lived a life worthy of honor.  Apostles were like celebrities - you rarely saw one in person and when you did, you were in awe, practically unable to speak a coherent sentence.  They were few and far between.  There might be one or two that you had ever heard of, and you almost couldn't even imagine that they were REAL people.  I never met a real "prophet" until I was a teenager.  Nowadays, everybody's a prophet, bishop, archbishop, chief apostle, and everything else... half of them don't have but 38 members spread out between two churches, and are under 40 and have pastored for 2.4 years.  LOL!  But, I guess that's a whole 'notha thread.

[Loopy]

1. I took James's statement a little differently...  

2.  

I feel like Marvin Winans... lol.  Bring back the days of yay and nay...  

These offices and titles have so little meaning today; it's a bit disheartening.  That's the only reason I asked.  I wasn't trying to be a jerk or anything.  I guess I'm just stuck in the 70s or 80s.  When I was younger, a bishop was an old, gray-haired man who oversaw tens or scores of churches and hosted annual conferences or convocations with all the different churches.  He was so highly revered and, at least to the public eye, lived a life worthy of honor.  Apostles were like celebrities - you rarely saw one in person and when you did, you were in awe, practically unable to speak a coherent sentence.  They were few and far between.  There might be one or two that you had ever heard of, and you almost couldn't even imagine that they were REAL people.  I never met a real "prophet" until I was a teenager.  Nowadays, everybody's a prophet, bishop, archbishop, chief apostle, and everything else... half of them don't have but 38 members spread out between two churches, and are under 40 and have pastored for 2.4 years.  LOL!  But, I guess that's a whole 'notha thread.

LaRue, I'm pressing charges because you've been trespassing and invading my thoughts!!

Oh well, since you've already been in my head, I muight as well go ahead and COSIGN this post.

[sjonathan02]

Meh.

So is that supposed to be a Gospel song? Was he singing about Christ? No. So I would not even consider that a gospel song. I will consider that an R&b song, and In my opinion its pretty wack. I'm not feelin' the music, and the lyrics were just "meh".

You know, I don't usually see eye to eye with this dude; but, on this, we're actually in agreement.


Gospel music tells the world (believer, as well as, non-believer) about the saving power of Jesus Christ. If His name isn't even mentioned, how can it be called a gospel song of any kind? To whom is the 'preacha man' speaking when he's asking for forgiveness; to whom is he repenting if there is NO mention of Christ?   

[LaylaMonroe]

You know, I don't usually see eye to eye with this dude; but, on this, we're actually in agreement.


Gospel music tells the world (believer, as well as, non-believer) about the saving power of Jesus Christ. If His name isn't even mentioned, how can it be called a gospel song of any kind? To whom is the 'preacha man' speaking when he's asking for forgiveness; to whom is he repenting if there is NO mention of Christ?   

TOTAL cosign. I had typed something similar, but deleted it.  I was pondering aloud if perhaps we are confused by the label of "gospel" as a genre of music as opposed to the real definition of the word itself.  The gospel is the good news of Jesus Christ: it's the story of his birth, his life, his ministry, his death, his resurrection and power, and of course, his saving grace.  THAT'S gospel.  If you ain't talking about that, or at least talking about the man himself, you ain't doing gospel, IMO.

LaRue, I'm pressing charges because you've been trespassing and invading my thoughts!!

Oh well, since you've already been in my head, I muight as well go ahead and COSIGN this post.

 

Whoops!  My bad... lol.  But, I'm glad I got one in the amen corner.  Just in case I gotta justify my point... lol.