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Re: Somebody help me understand this...
« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2008, 09:43:45 AM »
Funny enough in my church we have more bassists and drummers than guitarists. There is only one guitarist...me. :)

Bro, send me a bass player, STAT!
I got one guy and he's overworked as it is and we're going to two services in two weeks.  :o
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Re: Somebody help me understand this...
« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2008, 11:51:21 AM »
Bro, send me a bass player, STAT!
I got one guy and he's overworked as it is and we're going to two services in two weeks.  :o

Sorry man. One bassist is a full time bassist and won't move, another is also our drummer and secondary keys player and won't move, the 3rd is also a keyboard player and won't move, the 4th is a pastor and also doubles as the head of our media department and definitely won't move. The fifth is a young high school kid whose parents will definitely not let him move.

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I guess i could play bass but the frets are too wide apart.
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Re: Somebody help me understand this...
« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2008, 05:33:19 PM »
Funny enough in my church we have more bassists and drummers than guitarists. There is only one guitarist...me. :)


The church I attend now has more guitarists (5+) and fewer bass players (2+).  The "+" is for aspiring players.  :)  I think we have (5+) drummers. 

To Fenix point, other churches I've been involved or I've witnessed there are more bassists than guitarists.  :)

I wonder is there a scientific study on this.  :-\
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Re: Somebody help me understand this...
« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2008, 05:51:26 PM »
Bro, send me a bass player, STAT!
I got one guy and he's overworked as it is and we're going to two services in two weeks.  :o

Pray and fast that God will give you a bass player. Luke 10:2, "...the harvest truly is great, but the labourers are few: pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he would send forth labourers into his harvest."
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Re: Somebody help me understand this...
« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2008, 07:22:27 PM »
Pray and fast that God will give you a bass player. Luke 10:2, "...the harvest truly is great, but the labourers are few: pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he would send forth labourers into his harvest."

 :D :D

OK this is funny.


To Fenix point, other churches I've been involved or I've witnessed there are more bassists than guitarists.  :)

I wonder is there a scientific study on this.  :-\

Yep. This is the case with the churches around my area. There are more bassists than there are guitarists. I suppose most people who listen to gospel music will gravitate towards the bass than the guitar as they see the bass' role in gospel much more easily than the guitar's role.

If you grew up listening to CCM, then of course you will most likely gravitate towards the guitar since that is the sound you hear most of the time.
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Re: Somebody help me understand this...
« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2008, 11:14:02 PM »
:D :D

OK this is funny.


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Re: Somebody help me understand this...
« Reply #26 on: January 01, 2009, 09:22:54 AM »
^^^

Exactly!
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Re: Somebody help me understand this...
« Reply #27 on: January 05, 2009, 09:57:19 AM »
Funny enough in my church we have more bassists and drummers than guitarists. There is only one guitarist...me. :)

Same here.


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Re: Somebody help me understand this...
« Reply #28 on: January 05, 2009, 10:03:52 AM »
Don't forget the converts like me. We have one "church raised" CCM guitar player among us. Since our bass player went to college I have filled in. The guitar is more of a solo instrument. For those who play at home and just want to sing along. The bass assumes there is a band also.

Our other guitar players are another convert to the faith who was a country rock guy, our drummer and another strummer who was raised in one of those denominations which don't allow musical instruments. It is the role of guitar in the general society and the start up cost being many times cheaper, until the recent keyboards, then any other instrument which lead to a glute of strummers if not lead guitarist.

"Gospel music" as a black peoples art form has a slightly different developement path. In the 70s the bass role and players became emphasised while  for the most part guitar players were 1. Older blues guys, 2. Jazz guys seen as elitist snobs by the pop community or 3. Guys, "Jimi Hendrix for example" who crossed over to the rock world and are seen as sellouts to the black community.

The pop and slap bass became just the latest innovation that general pop music pick up from "black music" as the bass players took on more of a star role in black bands. In the music sampled today and used for black pop music it is the bassline that the producer is looking to add much more often then a Niles Rodgers driving the beat on rythmn guitar or a guitar solo. Thus specific to the black community in general and Gospel playing churches specificcally are greater talent pool of bass players versus guitar players is available. And black churches are much more likely to have a lifelong bass player, either church raised or a convert who brought his wordly skill, rather then asking the third or forth guitar to fill that role.

Agreed on all points.
In my experience, I've found COGIC bass players to be horribly competitive and snobbish people. COGIC guitarists have always been humble and welcoming though. What is it about the keyboardists and
bassists that makes them so mean? In all my travels I've only met one nice COGIC keyboardist and one COGIC bassist and that's because he was a beginner. It's sad...

When I play I never play at other COGIC churches cause everyone's so stuck-up and there's so many horrible cliques. It's harder to find people to play with than out in the world...


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Re: Somebody help me understand this...
« Reply #29 on: January 05, 2009, 10:32:29 AM »
Agreed on all points.
In my experience, I've found COGIC bass players to be horribly competitive and snobbish people. COGIC guitarists have always been humble and welcoming though. What is it about the keyboardists and
bassists that makes them so mean? In all my travels I've only met one nice COGIC keyboardist and one COGIC bassist and that's because he was a beginner. It's sad...

When I play I never play at other COGIC churches cause everyone's so stuck-up and there's so many horrible cliques. It's harder to find people to play with than out in the world...


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That is interesting. They do happen to be some of the best musicians that i have seen on the church scene. That probably has a lot to do with it.
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Re: Somebody help me understand this...
« Reply #30 on: January 05, 2009, 12:14:51 PM »
That is interesting. They do happen to be some of the best musicians that i have seen on the church scene. That probably has a lot to do with it.

That may be true based on your individual viewpoint. Personally, I can't stand "noodlers", and that's about all I see COGIC bassists do.

Either way, you would expect Christian players to be nicer... ::)

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Re: Somebody help me understand this...
« Reply #31 on: January 05, 2009, 12:25:38 PM »
That may be true based on your individual viewpoint. Personally, I can't stand "noodlers", and that's about all I see COGIC bassists do.

Either way, you would expect Christian players to be nicer... ::)

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No no no, forget COGIC bassists. I don't know anything about them. I am talking about COGIC keyboardists or organists. They are, from what i have seen, some of the best around...and this is despite the fact that they primarily play by ear.
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Re: Somebody help me understand this...
« Reply #32 on: January 05, 2009, 12:53:00 PM »
No no no, forget COGIC bassists. I don't know anything about them. I am talking about COGIC keyboardists or organists. They are, from what i have seen, some of the best around...and this is despite the fact that they primarily play by ear.

Now THAT is the truth!!!
The keyboardist at my church has never had a lesson in his life, but he has been playing since he was 5 and he's 18 now. That boy can tear it up like no one I've seen. For years he was the only instrument in the church so he HAD to cover all the bases. Now that other people are stepping up to the musician duties (like myself) it's hard to find a place to fit in with him...

He literally does it all...drums...keyboard...singer...
He is amazing!

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