J. Moss: Child support case hurting reputation

[Fenix]

And one last thing.  I'm not going to respond in this thread anymore.  We can talk in PM or on the phone. 

If this thread reaches 2 or 3 pages, I don't want to be responsible for it.  I've already contributed too much.

Ok Mme Rue. Good night. 

[B3Wannabe]

I'm with the girl.

The amount that she's after isn't killing his income, so I don't feel that she's necessarily one of those gold-digging groupies.

If you take incomplete sentences  and latch them together, you can seriously distort a person's message.

[Fenix]

Ok Mme Rue. Good night. 

...and rest assured i will rack my brain throughout Sunday to think of a suitable topic for you and Loopy to debate on. Its been a while since there's been a good debate.

 

[Loopy]

Yeah, you're right.  I'm a news junkie.

But, let me tell you where I'm coming from.  You don't have to agree, but here's how I see it.

If this article had been about Bob Smith, I would probably have opinions left and right.

If it was written about you, my response would've been exactly what it was in my first post in this thread.  If it was written about any of you on LGM, or anyone in my church or my biological family, I would've said exactly what I said in the first post (or nothing at all).

I tend to be a bit more protective of my brothers and sisters in the Lord.  I haven't always been that way, but I'm becoming more and more so every day.  We get hit hard enough from the world, and I just don't think it's necessary for us to hit each other -- especially not when we're already down.  Dude is family.

I won't make excuses for wrongdoing.  I'm not trying to cover it up or overlook it in any way.  I'm not even a fan (as I've said many, many times in the past).  But, that dude is my brother, and I'm just not going to blast him out in a public forum for having a mote in his eye when I've got a beam in mine.  Like my pastor always says, "how can you - KNOWING YOU - have the nerve to talk about someone else?"  That shuts me up every time.

That's where I'm coming from.

I can definitely understand where you're coming from, sis, and that is TOTALLY understandable. If more "saints" took that position, people in the body would be healed and restored much easier. I got ya, though. Forgive me if I misunderstood exactly where you were coming from. Maybe some of the other responses seemed a bit abrasive to the original poster, too, and I don't feel like he deserved THAT much excoriation for posting a News article. Though I understand where you're coming from, LaRue, J. Moss is yet a celebrity, and if he does something that makes the NEWS, it is fair game. Some of the other celebrities we discuss that are not gospel artists are part of the Body, too.

On that note, where I was coming from was that I felt we were kinda jumping on him for posting the article, which I thought was kinda unfair. Do keep in mind that I am very much aware that there has been a pattern of these type of articles being posted, and some of the frustration may stem from that. I just thought that the best way for anyone to show their disapproval of the article was to let it slip to the second page graveyard and not respond to it.

...and rest assured i will rack my brain throughout Sunday to think of a suitable topic for you and Loopy to debate on. Its been a while since there's been a good debate.

 

Now you know me and Rue love a good, intelligent debate, though most of the time we pretty much end up on the same side of the issue, so I don't get to debate much with Rue.

On THAT note:

And one last thing.  I'm not going to respond in this thread anymore.  We can talk in PM or on the phone. 

If this thread reaches 2 or 3 pages, I don't want to be responsible for it.  I've already contributed too much.

COSIGN! Even though I'm surely the one responsible for the second page!

[MissRiss]

It doesn't matter to me if they are Christians or non Christians. Adults need to stop. We definitely make mistakes all the time. However, we need to think about the kids. I work in school and see that damage that it causes in their lives everyday. Take care of the kids please!!

[ssabass]

My question is, who said Jmoss was part of the body of Christ. Just because someone sings about Christ Or preaches about Christ, doesn't make you part of his body. The word clearly says, many will say lord lord. This is not the actions of someome who is part of the body.

[under13]

My question is, who said Jmoss was part of the body of Christ. .......... This is not the actions of someome who is part of the body.

So just because someone commits a sin, they are excluded  from the Body of Christ? Truth is, we all sin, and it sounds like we are saying that this sin is worse than others, when to God, sin is sin. Sorry, but I dont think we have the right to judge his salvation.

[ssabass]

I'm not judging his salvation, i'm judging his actions. Someone really in the body of Christ would not cheat on his wife.So his actions does not line up with Christ. You can't be of both. This was not something that just happened. This is not just some mistake, a mistake is 2+2=5. To cheat on your spouse, is a thought out process. You don't just happen to look up & you're having sex with another woman or man thats not your wife or your husband. Our job as a Christian is to follow the life of Christ, this is more lined up with satan. He's is fooling himself(ourselves), if he(we),think that he is really a disciple of Christ & he's out cheating on his wife. To me if you cheat on your spouse, the person closet to you next to Christ, you'll do about anything. Cause inorder to cheat, you also have to lie, so now he's a liar & an adulterer. Thats one line I don't want to be in. Now, because of Gods Grace & Mercy, he can be forgiven, but he has to repent & turn from this wicked practice. 

[kodacolor]

I'm not judging his salvation, i'm judging his actions.

You're using his actions as a way to tell if he's really saved or not.

Someone really in the body of Christ would not cheat on his wife.

And as much as I'd love to co-sign on this, I can't.

This was not something that just happened. This is not just some mistake, a mistake is 2+2=5. To cheat on your spouse, is a thought out process. You don't just happen to look up & you're having sex with another woman or man thats not your wife or your husband

Co-sign

[fretai03]

I don't care if that helps.

[ssabass]

Kodacolor, yes I'm using his actions as a way to tell if he or anyone is really saved or not. You can't truly be saved & cheat on your wife. You can't even say you're saved and cheat on a test, that is not Christ like.  Christ said, if you love me, you would keep my commandments. Committing adultry is not keeping his commandments. Saying you are saved means nothing, if you are not living it. Your life should reflect the Christ you call yourself representing, cause if Christ is really in you & you in him, cheating on your wife would not happen. Now you might be tempted as Christ was tempted, but you should never act upon it. Cause if you act upon it, now you are opposite of Christ.

[Fenix]

Kodacolor, yes I'm using his actions as a way to tell if he or anyone is really saved or not. You can't truly be saved & cheat on your wife. You can't even say you're saved and cheat on a test, that is not Christ like.  Christ said, if you love me, you would keep my commandments. Committing adultry is not keeping his commandments. Saying you are saved means nothing, if you are not living it. Your life should reflect the Christ you call yourself representing, cause if Christ is really in you & you in him, cheating on your wife would not happen. Now you might be tempted as Christ was tempted, but you should never act upon it. Cause if you act upon it, now you are opposite of Christ.

Have you considered the possibility that he has repented and thus all these things that you are saying should be in the past tense, not present continuous.

Just asking in love man.

[ssabass]

Fenix, I hope this brotha has repented, I hate to see anyone fall into the devils trap. Now, he must step up to the plate & be a father to this child. There should not even be a court hearing on child support. He should voluntarily give this young lady what ever amount it takes, for her to properly care for this child.

[under13]

         

Kodacolor, yes I'm using his actions as a way to tell if he or anyone is really saved or not. You can't truly be saved & cheat on your wife. You can't even say you're saved and cheat on a test, that is not Christ like.  Christ said, if you love me, you would keep my commandments. Committing adultry is not keeping his commandments. Saying you are saved means nothing, if you are not living it. Your life should reflect the Christ you call yourself representing, cause if Christ is really in you & you in him, cheating on your wife would not happen. Now you might be tempted as Christ was tempted, but you should never act upon it. Cause if you act upon it, now you are opposite of Christ.

I tried

[sjonathan02]

Fenix, I hope this brotha has repented, I hate to see anyone fall into the devils trap. Now, he must step up to the plate & be a father to this child. There should not even be a court hearing on child support. He should voluntarily give this young lady what ever amount it takes, for her to properly care for this child.

Who gets to determine what amount is enough for a child? 

Kodacolor, yes I'm using his actions as a way to tell if he or anyone is really saved or not. You can't truly be saved & cheat on your wife. You can't even say you're saved and cheat on a test, that is not Christ like.  Christ said, if you love me, you would keep my commandments. Committing adultry is not keeping his commandments. Saying you are saved means nothing, if you are not living it. Your life should reflect the Christ you call yourself representing, cause if Christ is really in you & you in him, cheating on your wife would not happen. Now you might be tempted as Christ was tempted, but you should never act upon it. Cause if you act upon it, now you are opposite of Christ.

 

[BEATBOXERZ]

Kodacolor, yes I'm using his actions as a way to tell if he or anyone is really saved or not. You can't truly be saved & cheat on your wife. You can't even say you're saved and cheat on a test, that is not Christ like.  Christ said, if you love me, you would keep my commandments. Committing adultry is not keeping his commandments. Saying you are saved means nothing, if you are not living it. Your life should reflect the Christ you call yourself representing, cause if Christ is really in you & you in him, cheating on your wife would not happen. Now you might be tempted as Christ was tempted, but you should never act upon it. Cause if you act upon it, now you are opposite of Christ.

I had to respond to this and all the other comments you have posted.

Tell me bro, do you truly believe that you have kept every commandment that God has given us? Not just the 10, but every last one of them? Can you really, honestly, truly say that? Please tell me?
 

[T-Block]

Kodacolor, yes I'm using his actions as a way to tell if he or anyone is really saved or not. You can't truly be saved & cheat on your wife. You can't even say you're saved and cheat on a test, that is not Christ like.  Christ said, if you love me, you would keep my commandments. Committing adultry is not keeping his commandments. Saying you are saved means nothing, if you are not living it. Your life should reflect the Christ you call yourself representing, cause if Christ is really in you & you in him, cheating on your wife would not happen. Now you might be tempted as Christ was tempted, but you should never act upon it. Cause if you act upon it, now you are opposite of Christ.

U get a 10% CO-SIGN.  The other 90%, just doesn't sound right cuz u don't even take into account that we are human and that we are subject to do anything.

[vtguy84]

U get a 10% CO-SIGN.  The other 90%, just doesn't sound right cuz u don't even take into account that we are human and that we are subject to do anything.

Tithing a cosign¿  What is that¿

[T-Block]

Tithing a cosign¿  What is that¿

I agree with 10% of his post.

[vtguy84]

I agree with 10% of his post.

LOL k bye