Avatar B212 Versus Epifani PS210 ... and the Winner Is?

[BPforChrist]

Hello fellow Bass Players, and Bass Masters ... I'm looking for opinions on an Avatar B212 (used, Craigslist, $275) and an Epifani PS210 (used, Guitar Center, $200) ... I'm looking to use it as an extension cab with my 200 watt 4 ohm 1x15 combo ... which cab do you think is the winner in this case ... thanks for your input, I've got to make a decision before somebody buys one of these before I do ...

[DWBass]

Wow, an Epifani for $200? What shape is it in? I would go for the Epifani. I'm not a fan of 2x12's. A 15+2x12's is too boomy for my own taste. A 15+2x10's is a better fit, to my ears at least.

[ddwilkins]

if you can score an epifani cab for $200 and its in good shape, get it and leave the avatar alone. Like DW said, 15+212 would not sound too good, but a 15+210 will. I had the 15x210 setup before I went to 4x10.

[Basspicker26]

Definitely go for the Epifani cab

[BPforChrist]

DWBass, ddWilkins, and BassPicker 26 ... thank you all for your insights ... I should have one of these cabs sometime this Saturday ... I was leaning towards the Avatar but it is clear from your comments that the Epifani is the hands down winner! ... I'll go see the Epifani 1st and get a better idea of it's condition and then I'll make my choice ... which ever cab I end up with, I want to thank you for your advice and you should know that the churches that I praise Him in are in for some more bass bottom than before ...

[jmain]

I'd get the Epifani too.  But I'd make sure the head in the combo can go below 4 ohms, as the load will be around 2.67 if the PS210 is 8-ohm and will be 2 if the it is 4-ohm.

I've heard great things about the PS210.  Good luck man.

[DWBass]

I'd get the Epifani too.  But I'd make sure the head in the combo can go below 4 ohms, as the load will be around 2.67 if the PS210 is 8-ohm and will be 2 if the it is 4-ohm.

I've heard great things about the PS210.  Good luck man.

I think the combo alone runs at 8ohms since the internal speaker is rated at 300w and the amp can put out 600w @ 4ohms. So it's probably running 300w into the internal speaker. Just make sure that 2x10 is an 8ohm cab.

[DWBass]

Oh wait, I'm sorry. I was thinking your combo was an Epifani ul-115c. Can you please ID what make and model combo you have??

[BPforChrist]

Still haven't made the purchase, but the Epifani appears to have seen some hard days, especially cosmetically ... my combo is a Yorkville XM200, it has 200w with an internal 1x15 ... the minimum impedance of the external speaker load is 4 ohms (one 4 ohm extension speaker or two 8 ohm extension speakers) ... the extension speaker jack is wired parallel with the internal speaker so that the internal speaker runs at 4 ohms ... what do you think?

[Steelpulz]

Still haven't made the purchase, but the Epifani appears to have seen some hard days, especially cosmetically ... my combo is a Yorkville XM200, it has 200w with an internal 1x15 ... the minimum impedance of the external speaker load is 4 ohms (one 4 ohm extension speaker or two 8 ohm extension speakers) ... the extension speaker jack is wired parallel with the internal speaker so that the internal speaker runs at 4 ohms ... what do you think?

As the owner of 3 Avatar cabinets, do not discount them. they sound great. This is a clip from a recent performance through an Avatar B210, 4 ohms.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hECizjhrEGY

[DWBass]

I think you're good with the cab. Yorkvilles can go down to 2ohms. I own a XS800 and it can do 8,4 & 2ohms.

[BPforChrist]

What's happenin' everyone ... I've made my choice and picked up the Avatar B212 (got it down to $240) ... played it though a MarkBass at 500w and Wow! ... I took it home and plugged it into my 1x15 200w Yorkville, and, "I like it!" ... it does round out the sound (I like bigger bottom) and I can't wait to play it in church ... I'm on the look out for a nice 350-400 watt head now, I saw a Peavey Tour 700 at Guitar Center yesterday priced at $300 ??? (but isn't that too much power?) ... thanks everyone for helping me to pick out my 1st extension cab.

[ssab]

CONGRATS! i got my b212neo few weeks ago. I got the 4ohms using Genz BENZ 6.0 great cab, can't wait until i take it out on a gig.

[Steelpulz]

What's happenin' everyone ... I've made my choice and picked up the Avatar B212 (got it down to $240) ... played it though a MarkBass at 500w and Wow! ... I took it home and plugged it into my 1x15 200w Yorkville, and, "I like it!" ... it does round out the sound (I like bigger bottom) and I can't wait to play it in church ... I'm on the look out for a nice 350-400 watt head now, I saw a Peavey Tour 700 at Guitar Center yesterday priced at $300 ??? (but isn't that too much power?) ... thanks everyone for helping me to pick out my 1st extension cab.

Excellent choice. I play thru an old school B212 at the bigger church I minister with. It's a good sounding cab.