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saldrums2

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Sunday 25JAN2009 in VA
« on: January 31, 2009, 05:50:54 PM »
Its been a long time since I posted anything.......

Last sunday, I was asked to play in VA by this church I used to play for. Mind you I live in Maryland. I didnt have a problem going down there to play, since I was on my way down there any way. OK......so I arrive on station and I see the set ( before I left this church, I took great care of this drumset) it looked like CRAP!!!! Ok, so I begin tapping on the toms LIGHTLY (no exaggeration), next thing I know one of the deacons walk up to me and say " son dont play while the people are walking in. I was kinda annoyed because the bass player and the pianist were doing runs and chords from heaven, while m trying to at least TUNE up. So I just did what asked he asked me to.

I will be the first to admit, that i tend to pick up things a lil late (no, I didnt ride the slow bus as a kid!!! ;D)
But the bass player made me want to punch him in the mouth. Ok, I was at fault for bringing in a giant Vic Firth Stick bag full of sticks to a church where they dont invest in the musicians. So dude says "Let me get those sticks" And like a fool  I gave them to him because i thought I was being generous. Didnt get a thank you or nothing, I was about to take them back but something said those sticks can easily be replaced. Dude pretty much punked me and got away with it.

Not done with the bass player......yet!!!

So Im thinking since its been like two years since i played with this church, I thought they would have some new music. WRONG!!!! Same ole songs except for one which I nailed on the first take. Me and the pianist kept keen eyes on each other.....The bass player really thought he was the musical director, cause he kept telling me how to play. He kept yelling For hi-hat patterns when the lead pianist said NO DRUMS ON BREAK (which meant no music period). But the bass player kept nagging bout the hi-hat...so i ignored him.

Lastly. I kept getting blasted by the pastor( hes a pianist too) for playing too loud. This is when you can tell if you are playing for scam artists (which he is...and he KNOWS I KNOW IT) Anytime you take the time out of prayer to tell the musicians that they are playing loud during that so called "touch em 'on the head and they fall out", there is a problem.  I never have a problem admitting in the wrong. I was playing loud right along with the other two, because there AMPS were litterally two feet behind me at full BLAST!!!!! My ears were killing afterwards!!!!! I wont ever Come back to that church again!!!!!
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Re: Sunday 25JAN2009 in VA
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2009, 07:37:46 PM »
Quote from: saldrums2 on January 31, 2009, 05:50:54 PM
Its been a long time since I posted anything.......

Last sunday, I was asked to play in VA by this church I used to play for. Mind you I live in Maryland. I didnt have a problem going down there to play, since I was on my way down there any way. OK......so I arrive on station and I see the set ( before I left this church, I took great care of this drumset) it looked like CRAP!!!! Ok, so I begin tapping on the toms LIGHTLY (no exaggeration), next thing I know one of the deacons walk up to me and say " son dont play while the people are walking in. I was kinda annoyed because the bass player and the pianist were doing runs and chords from heaven, while m trying to at least TUNE up. So I just did what asked he asked me to.

I will be the first to admit, that i tend to pick up things a lil late (no, I didnt ride the slow bus as a kid!!! ;D)
But the bass player made me want to punch him in the mouth. Ok, I was at fault for bringing in a giant Vic Firth Stick bag full of sticks to a church where they dont invest in the musicians. So dude says "Let me get those sticks" And like a fool  I gave them to him because i thought I was being generous. Didnt get a thank you or nothing, I was about to take them back but something said those sticks can easily be replaced. Dude pretty much punked me and got away with it.

Not done with the bass player......yet!!!

So Im thinking since its been like two years since i played with this church, I thought they would have some new music. WRONG!!!! Same ole songs except for one which I nailed on the first take. Me and the pianist kept keen eyes on each other.....The bass player really thought he was the musical director, cause he kept telling me how to play. He kept yelling For hi-hat patterns when the lead pianist said NO DRUMS ON BREAK (which meant no music period). But the bass player kept nagging bout the hi-hat...so i ignored him.

Lastly. I kept getting blasted by the pastor( hes a pianist too) for playing too loud. This is when you can tell if you are playing for scam artists (which he is...and he KNOWS I KNOW IT) Anytime you take the time out of prayer to tell the musicians that they are playing loud during that so called "touch em 'on the head and they fall out", there is a problem.  I never have a problem admitting in the wrong. I was playing loud right along with the other two, because there AMPS were literally two feet behind me at full BLAST!!!!! My ears were killing afterwards!!!!! I wont ever Come back to that church again!!!!!


Dude...you were in the wrong for posting this. There's absolutely nothing to discuss-mind you this a discussion forum. This sounds like it should be in a blog of yours somewhere.

I tag this as the first official lgm FAIL
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Re: Sunday 25JAN2009 in VA
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2009, 09:27:42 PM »
 ?/? Okay moving right along now....


But I have to know: Why on earth would you give the bass player your sticks?  :-\ ?/?
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Re: Sunday 25JAN2009 in VA
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2009, 09:31:08 PM »
Your sticks are like keys to a ferrari,you NEVER surrender them.If they want to play bad enough,point them in the direction of the nearest music store.I always keep a old chewed up pair in my bag for a kid that wants to play but is a little shy.Giving a pair that i've used means something to someone ya know,but grown ups can handle their own weight.
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Re: Sunday 25JAN2009 in VA
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2009, 10:11:43 PM »
its all good.........

see, I was in the wrong AGAIN!!!!! No Problem.
Quote from: shell06 on January 31, 2009, 09:27:42 PM
?/? Okay moving right along now....


But I have to know: Why on earth would you give the bass player your sticks?  :-\ ?/?

I dont know...i guess im a good hearted fellow!!

they were used though!!!!
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Re: Sunday 25JAN2009 in VA
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2009, 10:15:24 PM »
Quote from: teflonminds88 on January 31, 2009, 07:37:46 PM

Dude...you were in the wrong for posting this. There's absolutely nothing to discuss-mind you this a discussion forum. This sounds like it should be in a blog of yours somewhere.

I tag this as the first official lgm FAIL

Man...did you really have to put me on blast like that???
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Re: Sunday 25JAN2009 in VA
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2009, 10:22:34 PM »
oh one more thing I forgot to mention.......


the point I was trying to make was just an observation in church thats all....

Not crying for attention...I mean this is LEARN GOSPEL MUSIC .com right???  Discussing the latest issues about gospel music right?

What would you have done in the situation's I mentioned above???
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Re: Sunday 25JAN2009 in VA
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2009, 01:16:19 AM »
Quote from: saldrums2 on January 31, 2009, 10:22:34 PM


What would you have done in the situation's I mentioned above???

NUMBER 1...NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER talk about THEE man of God,and that so called TOUCH EM THEY FALL OUT SCHEME,worked for me in my walk with christ..so watch your mouth and the words u speak or TYPE... ;)
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Re: Sunday 25JAN2009 in VA
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2009, 04:43:10 AM »
Bleh...
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Re: Sunday 25JAN2009 in VA
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2009, 07:56:08 AM »
Man i was ignorant for posting this..........Im out......
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Re: Sunday 25JAN2009 in VA
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2009, 11:25:06 AM »
Bro, don't leave out like that. Just be accountable to what you posted and accept or don't accept the feedback given. I don't think you were ignorant from posting this, I personally just felt it came off wrong like a personal complaint thread. It was like you posted an experience and just highlighted all the negative things you felt that came from it. And then after you bashed the other musicians, the pastor, and the church, you were so determined not to go to that church again. Many of us go through similar situations as well, but it's all in how we take the experience and learn from it instead of letting it bother us to the point we feel we need to complain to whoever will listen. What would I have done? I would've prayed for them and their ministry and would've walked off and said "God bless em!" 
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Re: Sunday 25JAN2009 in VA
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2009, 03:41:40 PM »
Some of ya'll are harsh. I can see why he doesn't post on here much. I'm nobody on here to say this but I just think if you really don't have anything positive to say then don't comment. There's a difference between telling him what he did wrong and how to fix it, then telling him he failed. I'm confused because I thought as Christians we're supposed to stand out. But honestly sometimes I don't see the difference between here and say Drummer World with some of the comments that are left on here. I don't know what the inventor of this forum had in mind but this is a "Christian" discussion forum so explain to me why can't he discuss something that he went through as a Christian? Maybe the solution is a Vent Section....... But on the flipside even if you may be right about that pastor I don't know if you can call him a scam artist........but then again Jesus did call people heathens and thieves. So I guess it is what it is. Take that one up with God in your prayer time. God Bless.
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Re: Sunday 25JAN2009 in VA
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2009, 05:05:23 PM »
My bad yall........

As for the pastor, there has been a history between me and him. I KNOW him, and how he is. He admitted to  me that he is actually living off these people.  Anytime 95% of your congregation walks out on you, there is a serious problem.  It was just a weird experience thats all.

thanks SneakerHead..... ;)

oh another thing........
I really dont post that much because the "Vets" each and everytime beat me to the latest news or updates. If you ask me, every time you turn around people always posting vids about other drummers to see who hot and whose not, so whats the point?  i thought I would bring something new ;)
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Re: Sunday 25JAN2009 in VA
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2009, 05:47:13 PM »
ITT: People forgetting that the internet IZ SERIUZ BIZNEZ! ::)


Saldrums: Its obvious you know you were wrong. What you also forget is that the LGM Drum room is not a place for venting (unless you can point out valid reasons). So far, you haven't given any valid reasons.

If you're venting for the sake of venting then call your close mates & have a QQ session with them.

The "vets" in this room are harsh because they keep us all in check & keep us accountable to our musical calling & that doesn't necessarily mean they'll agree or encourage our venting sessions.

And another thing... don't pull the "Isn't-this-a-christian-forum/What-were-the-LGM-creators-trying-to-do-with-this-site" card. Pulling that here won't do you any good especially if you've just created a thread venting about how you've been done wrong (here or in real life)...

This place is NOTHING like DrummerWorld or PDF forums.

Yes, there are things that we need to work on this room but if we keep having to be nice every time a noob or lurker feels offended then our harshness is not the problem...
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Re: Sunday 25JAN2009 in VA
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2009, 05:54:39 PM »
thats cool brother.......i understand ;)
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Re: Sunday 25JAN2009 in VA
« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2009, 06:09:42 PM »
Fretai you make a good point. But I still feel the same way as to what I wrote earlier. To Saldrums I guess there is a time and place for everything and this is just not that place. But just know that your not alone like what was previously said on the issue dealing with other musicians and churches. God Bless.
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Re: Sunday 25JAN2009 in VA
« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2009, 06:19:17 PM »
Yeah don't get me wrong guys. I believe that this drum room should be more constructive & helpful in our criticism.

What I've found is that if you dig deeper into some of the replies you'll actually find golden nuggets of advice that just make you go :o
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Re: Sunday 25JAN2009 in VA
« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2009, 07:53:16 AM »
Quote from: fretai03 on February 01, 2009, 06:19:17 PM
Yeah don't get me wrong guys. I believe that this drum room should be more constructive & helpful in our criticism.

What I've found is that if you dig deeper into some of the replies you'll actually find golden nuggets of advice that just make you go :o

That's what you call an eye-opener everybody ;) :D


Good job Fred! ;D
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