Topic: Kirk Franklins bassist? (Read 3783 times)

Jam_Bass · « **on:** March 30, 2009, 05:50:23 PM »

I was just listening to a few kirk franklin songs and i've noticed he uses a lot a synth bass. So does he have a bassist?

tank73 · « **Reply #1 on:** March 30, 2009, 06:20:32 PM »

I seen him in concert about 3 or 4 months ago. He has a bassist, but also uses alot of synth in his performance

funkStrat_97 · « **Reply #2 on:** March 30, 2009, 06:23:40 PM »

Bear in mind that while he may use a lot of synth-bass in the studion, there's a good chance that there'll be a live bassist on stage. Other than that, most gospel artists don't really have a band; rather it's a collection of hired musicians who provide a service.

Jam_Bass · « **Reply #3 on:** March 30, 2009, 06:46:56 PM »

Quote from: tank73 on March 30, 2009, 06:20:32 PM

I seen him in concert about 3 or 4 months ago. He has a bassist, but also uses alot of synth in his performance

Oh....... why synth bass though? To me there ain't no other joy than having that chunck wood in your arms. And it dosen't have that sound feel that i've grown to love.

Quote from: funkStrat_97 on March 30, 2009, 06:23:40 PM

Bear in mind that while he may use a lot of synth-bass in the studion, there's a good chance that there'll be a live bassist on stage. Other than that, most gospel artists don't really have a band; rather it's a collection of hired musicians who provide a service.

So i have realized, because isreals bassist is now Justin Raines, or is he just filling in?

Kelz-Da-Basshead · « **Reply #4 on:** March 30, 2009, 08:07:47 PM »

At first I didn't like the idea of synth bass but, i later realized that some songs may be better served with a synth bass tone.

Its also easier for a producer that cant play bass to use a moog or other synth bass thing instead of hiring a bassist for a studio session.

I feel that any bassist who wants to become professional should learn to play synth bass because if an artist or producer suddenly has a craving for synth bass they won't send you home and call jae deal. I know darrell freeman played both on micah stampley's new CD.

Torch7 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 31, 2009, 10:53:52 AM »

On Kirk's CD. HERO.. Braylon Lacy played bass on certain studio tracks. Derrick "Swole" Ray, was on tour with him. When they made a stop in Austin, Derrick played Bass, and had a synth setup in front of him.. for whatever reason the synth wasn't working, he fiddled with it for a while, and then the stage guy came on stage and tried to get it to work, while he played his axe, it never would work, so they took it off stage, and he continued to play his bass.

Quote from: Jam_Bass on March 30, 2009, 06:46:56 PM

So i have realized, because isreals bassist is now Justin Raines, or is he just filling in?

I believe Justin was Terrance Palmer's backup, so when T.P. didn't travel, Justin stepped in. He played live with Israel.

Israel's latest CD has Tommy Sims on the credits for Bass player.

Torch7 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 31, 2009, 11:01:04 AM »

My bad... Keith Taylor, and Todd Lawton, are on the credits for Bass on his latest Album... Fight of My Life. There was quite a few sampled songs on that CD as well.

jeremyr · « **Reply #7 on:** March 31, 2009, 11:09:56 AM »

Swole is who's been playing with him live for the last 2 years or so.

Basspicker26 · « **Reply #8 on:** March 31, 2009, 02:27:54 PM »

Swol has been Kirk's bassist for the last 3 yrs on band dates, but he's on tour with Keyshia Cole right now, and he'll be on the American Idol tour as soon as the show wraps up. So I don't know who's playin bass for Kirk now. Justin Raines is Isreal's bass player at the moment. As it relates to synth bass, it just depends on the vibe of the song. Some songs require it, and some songs have synth and live bass playing at the same time. I will say this...if you want to be a working bassist in todays time you HAVE to know how to play keybass.

floaded27 · « **Reply #9 on:** March 31, 2009, 02:37:12 PM »

Quote from: Basspicker26 on March 31, 2009, 02:27:54 PM

I will say this...if you want to be a working bassist in todays time you HAVE to know how to play keybass.

what do YOU specifically mean by "working" bassist? that can have several meanings. playing PAID gigs, going on tour, studio work, top artists... so many interpretations to "working"

ddwilkins · « **Reply #10 on:** March 31, 2009, 03:04:01 PM »

Quote from: floaded27 on March 31, 2009, 02:37:12 PM

what do YOU specifically mean by "working" bassist? that can have several meanings. playing PAID gigs, going on tour, studio work, top artists... so many interpretations to "working"

Pretty much everything that you just stated is equated to a working bassist.

trsmooth · « **Reply #11 on:** March 31, 2009, 04:01:57 PM »

im just starting to get my synth-bass chops up...as a bassist, i feel its a very important skill to have. i used to think the say way some of the other guys think...i love it now!!!! i just recently bought a Korg trinity rack for a great price on Ebay and im loving it!!!!! in todays gospel music, you actually hear alot of synth bass!!! plus all the industry's hottest bass players are doing both. and most of us if not all are striving to get in the industry.....so why not???

floaded27 · « **Reply #12 on:** March 31, 2009, 04:27:50 PM »

if you wanna have fun with this thing and play for the glory of God, then its not a big deal. if you wanna get into the industry or do the pay for play thing, then yeah, as with any job, its best to have as much as you can.

its kinda like telling the guy at the park that plays ball regularly simply to have fun and stay in shape what he needs to work on to make it in the pros. its probably good to be aware of it, but a good portion of that wont represent his needs, because those are not his goals.

Quote from: ddwilkins on March 31, 2009, 03:04:01 PM

Pretty much everything that you just stated is equated to a working bassist.

well, my mind works, my fingers work, my bass works, and my amp works, so im pretty much a working bassist in my opinion.

DWBass · « **Reply #13 on:** March 31, 2009, 05:33:03 PM »

I'll ask this question......how many bassists actually play keys? I don't think cats like Nathan East or Andrew Gouche or Mo Fitz are getting calls to play synth bass (maybe they do, who knows). I will admit if a self contained band or choir has a need for a synth bass part and the bassist can do it, cool. I don't feel it's a necessary tool for a bassist. It is a nice tool to have if you're competant enough on the instrument. Secondly, if a producer wants a synth bass part, do you think he'll actually call up a bassist? I have done a ton of studio work in my 35+years of playing and have never gotten a call to do a synth bass part (even though I do play a bit of keys).

trsmooth · « **Reply #14 on:** March 31, 2009, 06:15:56 PM »

Quote from: DWBass on March 31, 2009, 05:33:03 PM

I'll ask this question......how many bassists actually play keys? I don't think cats like Nathan East or Andrew Gouche or Mo Fitz are getting calls to play synth bass (maybe they do, who knows). I will admit if a self contained band or choir has a need for a synth bass part and the bassist can do it, cool. I don't feel it's a necessary tool for a bassist. It is a nice tool to have if you're competant enough on the instrument. Secondly, if a producer wants a synth bass part, do you think he'll actually call up a bassist? I have done a ton of studio work in my 35+years of playing and have never gotten a call to do a synth bass part (even though I do play a bit of keys).

In my opinion, a bassist should be an "artist of many brushes". cool we can play bass, but just like most musicians dont listen to just one type of music, i dont think a bassist should limit themselves to just playing bass on the guitar, almost like a drummer just wanting to play drums and not percussion. a percussionist is also a form of playing drums. what im saying is sometimes as musicians we stay with the times. yea a keyboard player could play synth bass, but why not have a bass player playing it, ya know???

dhagler · « **Reply #15 on:** March 31, 2009, 07:58:13 PM »

Quote from: floaded27 on March 31, 2009, 04:27:50 PM

if you wanna have fun with this thing and play for the glory of God, then its not a big deal. if you wanna get into the industry or do the pay for play thing, then yeah, as with any job, its best to have as much as you can.

I fall into the former category. My ambitions are not as far-reaching as some, but it takes all kinds to make a world. I fight enough with my keyboardist as it is, can you imagine the fights we would have if I were playing synth bass?

Quote from: trsmooth on March 31, 2009, 04:01:57 PM

most of us if not all are striving to get in the industry

It would be an interesting survey question...mods?

Basspicker26 · « **Reply #16 on:** March 31, 2009, 08:48:45 PM »

I meant working bassist as in that's all you do for a living. Also I meant working bassist as in the previously mentioned, studio work, tours, plays, playing for different artists, and in different genres of music, etc....

ddwilkins · « **Reply #17 on:** April 01, 2009, 09:35:30 AM »

Quote from: floaded27 on March 31, 2009, 04:27:50 PM

well, my mind works, my fingers work, my bass works, and my amp works, so im pretty much a working bassist in my opinion.

You took "working bassists" from what basspicker26 said and took it to another level. He was clearly referring to the studio, touring, primarily the bassists who makes a living from playing. He wasn't talking about if your equipment works. For someone who makes a living with his craft, he will do whatever it takes to make himself stand out against his competition. You have your right to your own opinion, but he was clearly talking about something else. Please don't take it personal.

hands5 · « **Reply #18 on:** April 01, 2009, 01:56:54 PM »

I started playing synth (and somewhat "forced )way back in the Korg M1 days,and at that time I strongly rebelled and cajoled our manger about me having to play synth bass,especially when we had 2 keyboard players,but I was young at that time,and didn't realize that it was proably the best thing that happen because I'm still getting calls from both church and secular to play bass and synth bass when needed.
So by all means try it......you never know

floaded27 · « **Reply #19 on:** April 01, 2009, 11:11:05 PM »

Quote from: ddwilkins on April 01, 2009, 09:35:30 AM

You took "working bassists" from what basspicker26 said and took it to another level. He was clearly referring to the studio, touring, primarily the bassists who makes a living from playing. He wasn't talking about if your equipment works. For someone who makes a living with his craft, he will do whatever it takes to make himself stand out against his competition. You have your right to your own opinion, but he was clearly talking about something else. Please don't take it personal.

dude, the equipment working post was CLEARLY a joke. or i guess apparently it wasnt as clear. i be sure to put LOL at the end for future reference.

as for the question of working, i was asking was he referring to something in particular, because of the examples i mentioned, not everyone does all (maybe just focus on one area) and maybe this skill may be more of a necessity/benefit/plus for a studio bassist but maybe not as much for a house band bassist, but they both may be working for a living. also if he meant living off the craft, a touring bass may fit that description entirely, but a studio bassist may have a 9 to 5 and not be living off of the craft. so i was asking for a clarification.

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tank73