The time came when i recieved calls from 7 differant bands in one week, asking I play bass for them. During the years I played secular metal, I never once thought of myself as a musician. I declined all offers to become totally committed to my church and ministry gig. The drummer, keyboardist and the minister of music here call me a musician. They are God's ordained or are deacons, with whom I joyfully labor for our Lord, so that's good enough for me.