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Re: Tanspose again
« Reply #20 on: April 21, 2009, 09:05:50 AM »
C was the first key I learned way back when.  Probably not all that gospel friendly however.  I remember we were doing Yolanda Adams'  "In the midst of all" and this one visiting musician frown up when I told him it was in C.  :)

Same here.  It's the easiest key to learn in.

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Re: Tanspose again
« Reply #21 on: April 21, 2009, 09:13:09 AM »
Ehh I don't think C is the easiest to learn in. To me, thats a myth. I first learned in Db and had trouble going down to C....mainly because since every note is a white key, my fingers would tend to play the next note. With black keys, your fingers tend to place well between black and white keys.

I think people just tend to think C is the easiest key, but I think all keys are really just as equal...its all a mind thing.
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Re: Tanspose again
« Reply #22 on: April 21, 2009, 09:55:49 AM »
Ehh I don't think C is the easiest to learn in. To me, thats a myth.
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Re: Tanspose again
« Reply #23 on: April 21, 2009, 10:03:09 AM »
..Ehh I don't think C is the easiest to learn in. To me, thats a myth.../quote]

I feel that people think it's easier because it's usually the 1st key learned. And once you learn it, your comfortable with it.

I'm sure the effect will be the same if a newby learned G# 1st.

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Re: Tanspose again
« Reply #24 on: April 21, 2009, 10:28:57 AM »
I feel that people think it's easier because it's usually the 1st key learned. And once you learn it, your comfortable with it.

I'm sure the effect will be the same if a newby learned G# 1st.
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Re: Tanspose again
« Reply #25 on: April 21, 2009, 10:39:35 AM »
Turn to your neighbor and say IN MY OPINION!!

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« Reply #26 on: April 21, 2009, 11:29:54 AM »
IN MY OPINION!!
I've never heard(read) you use those three words together.   
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Re: Tanspose again
« Reply #27 on: April 21, 2009, 04:42:33 PM »
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Hmm...what does that exactly mean? lol
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Re: Tanspose again
« Reply #28 on: April 21, 2009, 04:43:01 PM »
Turn to your neighbor and say IN MY OPINION!!

That's the whole point U14, this is NOT a myth, it's a proven fact.  The key of C is the easiest key to learn in because it is all white keys.  Now, notice I didn't say it's the easiest key to play in. I'm coming purely from a learning point of view and this is not an opinion.
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Re: Tanspose again
« Reply #29 on: April 21, 2009, 04:45:56 PM »
Think about it. In the key of C, all keys are white, so its can be a little more confusing because one can lose their place as to what notes they are pressing. I've tried showing some people some things on they keyboard in C and I'll like play the a C major and then play a F major...and tell them to play it...just after watching me, they play something totally different.


With black keys, you have, sort of..like markers, to remind one of where the notes are....if you get what I mean.
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Re: Tanspose again
« Reply #30 on: April 21, 2009, 04:47:06 PM »
That's the whole point U14, this is NOT a myth, it's a proven fact.  The key of C is the easiest key to learn in because it is all white keys.  Now, notice I didn't say it's the easiest key to play in. I'm coming purely from a learning point of view and this is not an opinion.


How is that a fact? How can one prove that? I don't care if you take 50 people and teach them piano...that still doesn't make it a fact.
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Re: Tanspose again
« Reply #31 on: April 21, 2009, 04:51:25 PM »
Think about it. In the key of C, all keys are white, so its can be a little more confusing because one can lose their place as to what notes they are pressing. I've tried showing some people some things on they keyboard in C and I'll like play the a C major and then play a F major...and tell them to play it...just after watching me, they play something totally different.


With black keys, you have, sort of..like markers, to remind one of where the notes are....if you get what I mean.

O.K., u still not understanding whre I'm coming from.  I didn't say C was the easiest to play in, I just said it's the easiest to learn in.  I'm pointing more to the theory side of music, which is easier in C than in any key.  For example, it's easier to understand how to form a C major chord than let's say an F# major chord or even an E major chord.
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Re: Tanspose again
« Reply #32 on: April 21, 2009, 04:59:30 PM »
O.K., u still not understanding whre I'm coming from.  I didn't say C was the easiest to play in, I just said it's the easiest to learn in.  I'm pointing more to the theory side of music, which is easier in C than in any key.  For example, it's easier to understand how to form a C major chord than let's say an F# major chord or even an E major chord.

I got what you were saying...and I knew you were looking at it from a theoretic standpoint, and I still say I don't believe thats a fact. I just believe that its all in the brain and how one feels.


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Re: Tanspose again
« Reply #33 on: April 21, 2009, 05:20:37 PM »
I got what you were saying...and I knew you were looking at it from a theoretic standpoint, and I still say I don't believe thats a fact. I just believe that its all in the brain and how one feels.


But its all good.

Lol if you think about it though...the key of C has no sharps or flats....therefore if you have NO PRIOR experience on playing, then C probably would be the easiest key to learn....you would be surprised how much stuff like that confuses people....
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Re: Tanspose again
« Reply #34 on: April 21, 2009, 05:34:29 PM »
Can you prove that it is a fact?

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Re: Tanspose again
« Reply #35 on: April 21, 2009, 05:38:16 PM »
Lol if you think about it though...the key of C has no sharps or flats....therefore if you have NO PRIOR experience on playing, then C probably would be the easiest key to learn....you would be surprised how much stuff like that confuses people....

O.K., u still not understanding whre I'm coming from.  I didn't say C was the easiest to play in, I just said it's the easiest to learn in.  I'm pointing more to the theory side of music, which is easier in C than in any key.  For example, it's easier to understand how to form a C major chord than let's say an F# major chord or even an E major chord.

Cosign! From a THEORETICAL point of view the key of C is the easiest to LEARN in. This is why classical music is first taught in the key of C as it is the easiest key to read music in and play from.
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Re: Tanspose again
« Reply #36 on: April 21, 2009, 05:45:10 PM »
yea C is the easiest key visually and learning but not so easy to play in because the keys are too close its different than what ur explaining blackwiz87
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Re: Tanspose again
« Reply #37 on: April 21, 2009, 06:51:22 PM »
Lol if you think about it though...the key of C has no sharps or flats....therefore if you have NO PRIOR experience on playing, then C probably would be the easiest key to learn....you would be surprised how much stuff like that confuses people....


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Re: Tanspose again
« Reply #38 on: April 21, 2009, 08:55:21 PM »
Can you prove that it is a fact?

Yes sir I can.  The answer has been said already, the key of C has no sharps or flats.  If you were to start with let's say C#, u would first have to know where C is, then u would have to know what a sharp is, then u would have to put them together.  Now, ain't it much easier to just start with C since u gotta know it anyway to start off with?
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Re: Tanspose again
« Reply #39 on: April 21, 2009, 10:50:50 PM »
My statement that C was the essiest key to learn in was based on logic, study, circumstances, experience and facts.  It was never meant to say that there were none who would prefer another key. I stated that PERSONALLY I found C an easy key to play(coincidentally).  I believe that the statements that I made had merit.  Personally(again)I wouldn't tell a person to avoid a good key to learn in just because I didn't like it. People develop their preferences as they move forward in music. They learn better from the beginning ny following known procedures. 

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