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Re: Transpose again
« Reply #120 on: April 29, 2009, 01:12:35 PM »
not psychobabble. he was basically told if he could only play in one key he shouldnt be in that position to have to play anyway. maybe i took it the wrong way, but it was like saying, "go sit down somewhere until u get better" like sjon stated.


I think general tone of the thread was more speaking against transposing...not the OP.

If that statement about not playing until he gets better is the statement you were responding to, then I agree with you.

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Re: Transpose again
« Reply #121 on: April 29, 2009, 01:20:42 PM »
I think general tone of the thread was more speaking against transposing...not the OP.

If that statement about not playing until he gets better is the statement you were responding to, then I agree with you.

thanks. my bad if i read too much into it though. i apologize on that note.
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Re: Transpose again
« Reply #122 on: April 29, 2009, 01:21:14 PM »
Dang, look what I done started. ;D
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Re: Transpose again
« Reply #123 on: April 29, 2009, 01:36:27 PM »
thanks. my bad if i read too much into it though. i apologize on that note.

All's well.   ;D

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Re: Transpose again
« Reply #124 on: April 29, 2009, 01:48:49 PM »
Psychobabble.  Nobody threw this young man under the bus.  We're encouraging him to learn every key.  We're trying our best to convey that the Transpose is not the answer.

3 years from now when he's killin', he'll thank us.



Sjon, I'll tell you the same thing I told the OP:

Transpose if you must.  What we do is ministry, and if you know you literally CAN NOT play in a certain key, deciding not to transpose would be proud and would not minister.  I have no doubt you won't become addicted to the transpose. 

If you did T-Block would hunt you down like your last name was "Knowles".  :D

a. Last sentence---> FUNNY!!  :D

b. Don't get it twisted. I don't use the transpose button. I play what I can when I do play. I was just saying that no one should be lambasted if they DO use the 'dreaded button' (say it with me) tem-por-arily while they're learning to play in every key.  ;)
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Re: Transpose again
« Reply #125 on: April 29, 2009, 02:57:19 PM »
a. Last sentence---> FUNNY!!  :D

b. Don't get it twisted. I don't use the transpose button. I play what I can when I do play. I was just saying that no one should be lambasted if they DO use the 'dreaded button' (say it with me) tem-por-arily while they're learning to play in every key.  ;)


I love how you swiftly avoided that Scarlet Letter and separated yourself from all transposers (or 'Posers' for short).   :D

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Re: Transpose again
« Reply #126 on: April 29, 2009, 04:59:22 PM »
thats people with no discipline. if everytime u do something once it automatically becomes habit, then "transpose" is the least of your worries in life. seriously. what if you went to a church and they didnt have a keyboard and u had to play the organ just to get by, now you always gotta play organ, because you cant stop yourself from doing so, because you did it once out of necessity. that sounds so silly, but its the exact same situation.i started really practicing keys to develop my foundation for the bass. and i had a song i wrote in E and was playing it and the person singing it seemed to be straining and i said was it too high? so i said if i dropped it to another key u'd probably be more comfortable. I went down to Db to see if it was ok. as a beginner i couldnt quickly pick up the song in a different key, especially since i was trying to test if the key was fine for her (i may have had to switch to yet another key) and then learn it in that key later on. Pressed for time, i transposed into Db and played the song and it was fine. so that day when i went home i started learning the song in Db. But...according to some of you guys, i should have been incapable of self control, pressing the transpose key like a rabid animal. Instead of gradually getting better in different keys (not quickly because the majority of my practice time is dedicated to bass), i should be a one key wonder stuck in the "box of transposition".i study the use, sound, composition of a chord type to get understanding. i move patterns into other keys to get a better sense of how they relate. I explore different keys by playing different patters in keys that I am least familiar with in order to get balance. This is called discipline. I have it, even though i once "sinned" by transposing. There are people who want to put in the work by developing foundation and not trying to be a virtuoso in 3 days. Its a shame that many of you assume that nobody has any discipline. Its actually a relief that the original poster didnt quit playing because he committed the cardinal sin of using the transpose button and feel less than a musician. (dont worry o.p., ur not going to hell for pressing that button.)

But i guess many here dont have discipline themselves if they have to break the button, be ignorant to where it is, etc so they dont fall into the temptation of being dependent on it. thats lack of discipline.


im saying that transposing is never ok to do anytime to try to save an embarrasement many musicians go through embarrasing moments thats how you learn we just have to learn how to suck it up and learn and move on and secondly many musicians play out before they are ready and settle for less and get scared when theyre put up into an akward position
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Re: Transpose again
« Reply #127 on: April 29, 2009, 05:12:49 PM »

(or 'Posers' for short).   :D

Lets just call em Trannys for short.

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Re: Transpose again
« Reply #128 on: April 29, 2009, 05:44:47 PM »
This topic will never end.  ::)
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Re: Transpose again
« Reply #129 on: April 29, 2009, 06:11:10 PM »
This topic will never end.  ::)
if there wasnt any disagreement this site would be boring :D
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Re: Transpose again
« Reply #130 on: April 29, 2009, 08:15:34 PM »
if there wasnt any disagreement this site would be boring :D
I would so LOVE to test that theory.  :-\
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Re: Transpose again
« Reply #131 on: April 30, 2009, 06:35:13 AM »
if there wasnt any disagreement this site would be boring :D

I don't think it would be boring, but it would be less eventful, maybe.
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Re: Transpose again
« Reply #132 on: April 30, 2009, 07:16:48 AM »
I don't think it would be boring, but it would be less eventful, maybe.
i meant to say that just used the wrong choice of words
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Re: Transpose again
« Reply #133 on: April 30, 2009, 07:18:34 AM »
i meant to say that just used the wrong choice of words

I'd STILL love to test that theory.  :-\
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Re: Transpose again
« Reply #134 on: April 30, 2009, 07:39:03 AM »
I'd STILL love to test that theory.  :-\
lets try it
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Re: Transpose again
« Reply #135 on: April 30, 2009, 08:01:43 AM »
Real musicians play in every key!!!
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Re: Transpose again
« Reply #136 on: April 30, 2009, 08:40:02 AM »
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Re: Transpose again
« Reply #137 on: April 30, 2009, 10:52:12 AM »

 :-\ :-\ :-[
I Belive the points against are good enough,so.........

I Will try my best to play in all keys,

thanks for the harshness t-block, it realy got me thinking  :P

I will update you guys on how its going   

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Re: Transpose again
« Reply #138 on: April 30, 2009, 12:17:57 PM »
Hmm...i highly suspect you do not like transposing.

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Honestly, I don't get insulted when I know musicians transpose.  It's a crutch but it's their crutch.  Eventually it will catch up with them so I let it be.
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Re: Transpose again
« Reply #139 on: April 30, 2009, 12:21:46 PM »
and what im saying is the most important person that i know did learn. ME. not what i heard, not what i read, but what i experienced.
Me too bruh.  It's about having some integrity and wanting to be better.
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