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DVD Piano Lessons ARE NOT In Person Piano Lessons
« on: April 22, 2009, 08:03:22 PM »
This is just something that has been going through my mind for years, and I feel like talking about it now lol.

But why does dvd lessons constantly compare their prices to hourly lessons done in person? They don't compare. I hate reading information on dvds like some of the popular dvds like Hear And Play and Gospel Keyboard. Im not taking anything away from their product. They have great product...real talk. J.Griggs has helped me out A LOT.


But why do they and many other dvds constantly compare their prices as if dvd lessons even compare. One, you get personal with an instructor and get one on one time and you take the instructor's precious time from them. Another, they videotape themselves giving lessons and make thousands of copies and sell the same copy to thousands of customers.

I respect each and what they do, but why compare the two. Yes a 2 hour dvd may cost $35 to $60 and yes hourly lessons done in person with an instructor may cost $50 an hour, but its not the same thing. If we all had all the money in the world, of course we'd take personal instruction over dvds because its better.


Reality is one can learn the piano just by going online and get a wealth of FREE information from this site to many other sites.

So if one instructor makes dvds, then compare your prices to the prices of other instructors who make dvds...not to personal lessons. It's not fair.




Anyone agree? Or no?
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Re: DVD Piano Lessons ARE NOT In Person Piano Lessons
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2009, 08:24:37 PM »
I disagree, but thats just me.

I think some DVDs are worth the price and some are not. With Piano Lessons, you learn one, maybe two songs for $50. With a DVD, you can learn many many many songs, among other things like preacher chords and different grooves for the same price. With DVDS, you can pause and rewind, and go back to it whenever you want.

If you think about it in business terms, piano lessons are an expense, and DVDs are an asset. Once your hour is up, that $50 is gone, and you better hope you remember everything you learned. With DVDs, even though you paid $50, you still have something that you can go back to when you need to.

DVDs arent for everybody, and neither are lessons.

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Re: DVD Piano Lessons ARE NOT In Person Piano Lessons
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2009, 08:33:01 PM »
I disagree, but thats just me.

I think some DVDs are worth the price and some are not. With Piano Lessons, you learn one, maybe two songs for $50. With a DVD, you can learn many many many songs, among other things like preacher chords and different grooves for the same price. With DVDS, you can pause and rewind, and go back to it whenever you want.

If you think about it in business terms, piano lessons are an expense, and DVDs are an asset. Once your hour is up, that $50 is gone, and you better hope you remember everything you learned. With DVDs, even though you paid $50, you still have something that you can go back to when you need to.

DVDs arent for everybody, and neither are lessons.




But I don't think you understand where I'm getting at. Obviously piano lessons are a lot more expensive. But obviously an instructor can't teach you in one hour what an dvd can teach you because on a dvd, you can pause and whatnot.

My point is you can't compare. It's not fair. If I give out piano lessons, Im taking hours out of my day to give someone personal attention and teach them. Of course it'll be expensive. A student would be paying for my knowledge, lessons and my personal time. Thats along with my guidance and overlook of their progress and work too.

Sure one may like dvd lessons better because you can work at your own pace or because they don't work well with others, but with a dvd, you aren't working directly with that instructor. Others may like personal lessons because of the attention they get and so forth. That all depends on ones preference. But there's a reason why one obviously cost more than the other. It's like going to college on campus versus attending college online. You can learn the same knowledge and online, you can graduate a lot faster. Attending on campus, the attention you get is a lot more personal(although not as person in bigger classes obviously). Both are great..both are fine...but still, one understand why one cost more than the other. Instructors on campus have to get paid for their time and whatnot where as college on line, you just type up a lesson and copy and paste it or make it a download or whatever.

The point of my post is to not say whether one is better than the other...but you can't compare. So if you can't compare, then prices shouldn't be compared.
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Re: DVD Piano Lessons ARE NOT In Person Piano Lessons
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2009, 08:47:24 PM »

I dont see why they cant be compared.  Maybe I'm missing something ?/?

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Re: DVD Piano Lessons ARE NOT In Person Piano Lessons
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2009, 08:56:03 PM »
I dont see why they cant be compared.  Maybe I'm missing something ?/?



Because they are both different. Maybe I should rephrase. Yes you can compare them because its just natural for people to compare.



But if I type up an ad to advertise my dvd and it ends with:

"You get tons of information for only $49.99. Piano instructor's charge $40-$80 a lesson and with this 2 hour dvd, you get the same lessons for only $49.99"



That's when it becomes incomparable. How can one compare. Like you said, dvds aren't for everybody and lessons aren't for everybody. But to compare prices, its like saying you'll get what lessons give on dvd. The most you'll get is content, but you can never get the personal attention that lessons give. Personal does go a long way. So its matter of if one needs personal attention or not. You can only get but so much with lessons(unless someone is willing to act as a rewind button and repeat over and over lol) and just the same with dvd lessons. So they are two different products. Feel me?
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Re: DVD Piano Lessons ARE NOT In Person Piano Lessons
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2009, 09:08:36 PM »
So you dont want us to compare two things, because they are different? ?/?



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Re: DVD Piano Lessons ARE NOT In Person Piano Lessons
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2009, 09:20:20 PM »
So you dont want us to compare two things, because they are different? ?/?


Maybe I should rephrase. Yes you can compare them because its just natural for people to compare.




Did you even bother to read anything I posted? Not trying to be funny, im actually dead serious  :-\


But I do like debate so I will keep at it  ;)



Im saying for dvds to make it like they are giving the same thing as lessons but for a cheaper price...well, thats really not the case. They are giving something different. Its not just about content...or else I can type up a whole book with piano lessons.....personal lessons...dvd lessons...book lessons...they are all different.


Its like Bob selling chicken and Frank selling beef. For Bob to say "you get my chicken for this price, while other MEAT sellers have their prices higher"

Yes they are both meat, but they are both still different.





So I feel dvds should be compared with dvds......personal lessons give something that dvds can never give...and vice versa.


Again...personal lessons...dvd lessons...book lessons...they are all different. Both have strengths and weakness and its all about what the customer prefers....am I really getting a deal for paying for a book thats a whole lot cheaper than a dvd. Its supposed to be cheaper(dont get too technical, obviously some books do cost more than dvds etc) because its not the same thing. To imply like you get more for the money is all up to ones perspective and what an particular person prefers.

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Re: DVD Piano Lessons ARE NOT In Person Piano Lessons
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2009, 10:14:22 PM »
They both teach music. I dont think its that big a deal. Its advertising. Adverisers compare their products to their competitors. I dont see whats wrong with that. I dont think it takes a rocket surgeon to know that they cant ask the dvd player questions or ask it how they are coming along. 

 But I too like to debate (if you havent noticed) :D

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Re: DVD Piano Lessons ARE NOT In Person Piano Lessons
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2009, 10:20:15 PM »
They both teach music. I dont think its that big a deal. Its advertising. Adverisers compare their products to their competitors. I dont see whats wrong with that. I dont think it takes a rocket surgeon to know that they cant ask the dvd player questions or ask it how they are coming along. 

 But I too like to debate (if you havent noticed) :D


Well if we were truly honest, nothing discussed on these boards are that big of a deal like the conversations would tend to show.



Its just that its a constant thing that I read on the main page of these products. I dont know...its just like, when i read it...I think in my head, no im not saving money on anything, because if I had all the money in the world, I'd take personal lessons in a heartbeat and get up close with it. On a lot of these dvds, its just people showing us how they play...rather than teaching, they are showing us what they do. Maybe its just me.
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Re: DVD Piano Lessons ARE NOT In Person Piano Lessons
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2009, 10:28:55 PM »
they are showing us what they do. Maybe its just me.

can you list the dvds that you own?

And if you are talking about hear and plays website, I think their whole site is absolutely ludicrous. It looks more like a scam, than an online store.

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Re: DVD Piano Lessons ARE NOT In Person Piano Lessons
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2009, 10:34:09 PM »
can you list the dvds that you own?

And if you are talking about hear and plays website, I think their whole site is absolutely ludicrous. It looks more like a scam, than an online store.

 :D :D :D

Dude i was SOOOO hesitant to buy anything from H&P's website. I was so very sure it was a scam. I think they need to over-haul the website.
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Re: DVD Piano Lessons ARE NOT In Person Piano Lessons
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2009, 10:39:45 PM »
:D :D :D

Dude i was SOOOO hesitant to buy anything from H&P's website. I was so very sure it was a scam. I think they need to over-haul the website.

yeah man. It took me like 30 minutes to find the page where you order the products. Then when you you order what you want, it offers you other products at a discount price. its kinda like shopping at one of those Arab owned stores where you buy some socks and they offer you a suit for $10 more.

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Re: DVD Piano Lessons ARE NOT In Person Piano Lessons
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2009, 07:36:53 AM »
This is just something that has been going through my mind for years, and I feel like talking about it now lol.

But why does dvd lessons constantly compare their prices to hourly lessons done in person? They don't compare.

Well, the problem here may be the way you are looking at it man.  Believe it or not, these 2 situations DO compare, monetarily speaking.  You're basically paying the same amount of money in each situaion, but the mode of learning is different.  One is in-person, the other is in-person on DVD. Some people learn better in person, some people can learn just fine from a DVD.

There really is no clear cut "best" option here, only the option that works best for you.  I understand what u trying to say man, really I do.  Just try to look at this more subjectively.
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Re: DVD Piano Lessons ARE NOT In Person Piano Lessons
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2009, 08:57:39 AM »
can you list the dvds that you own?

And if you are talking about hear and plays website, I think their whole site is absolutely ludicrous. It looks more like a scam, than an online store.


If i were to go off the top of my head, umm...I own Gospel Keys 202, um Gospel Keys 300...One of Jamal Hartwells first dvds, Gospel Keys 201, ...I dont remember any more at the top of my head(at least not names). I got all of these over a long span of time.



But I wasn't talking about any particular website because its not just Hear And Play that does it. Most dvd websites have those same kind of pages...a full page full of hype and whatnot. Im not saying the product isn't good, but except for a few, most of those dvds just showed some licks and whatnot that you can add...instead of teaching sort to speak...if you feel what im saying.
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Re: DVD Piano Lessons ARE NOT In Person Piano Lessons
« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2009, 09:36:42 AM »
Well the only reason i buy DVDs is to learn a particular style. I prefer to have a teacher show me stuff.

Speaking of which i halted buying DVDs cuz i noticed i don't really watch them.
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Re: DVD Piano Lessons ARE NOT In Person Piano Lessons
« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2009, 12:02:29 PM »
It's kind of like the difference between hiring a personal trainer and just buying an excercise video.  Some people may need the extra push from having to deal with a person directly.  A video can teach you the same things but you have to be a bit more motivated and set your own pace.
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Re: DVD Piano Lessons ARE NOT In Person Piano Lessons
« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2009, 01:21:43 PM »
It's kind of like the difference between hiring a personal trainer and just buying an excercise video.  Some people may need the extra push from having to deal with a person directly.  A video can teach you the same things but you have to be a bit more motivated and set your own pace.

Excellent parallel.

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Re: DVD Piano Lessons ARE NOT In Person Piano Lessons
« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2009, 01:42:44 PM »
It's kind of like the difference between hiring a personal trainer and just buying an excercise video.  Some people may need the extra push from having to deal with a person directly.  A video can teach you the same things but you have to be a bit more motivated and set your own pace.

Excellent parallel.

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Re: DVD Piano Lessons ARE NOT In Person Piano Lessons
« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2009, 01:56:30 PM »
It's like comparing apples to oranges...two different animals, IMO.

Live teachers can give you personal attention, strengthen your weaknesses and explain your questions. OTOH, they can sidetrack you from what you really want to learn (if you have set goals).

With DVD's, you can go over and over the spots you would like to learn - some tutorials have the keyboard w/notes highlighted. But you are limited to what is on the recording...

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Re: DVD Piano Lessons ARE NOT In Person Piano Lessons
« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2009, 03:37:37 PM »
Exactly. You guys are comparing the two(dvd lessons versus personal lessons) and while the content is the same, they are different. Its all about which one a particular individual prefers. All that is fine and dandy...but its like, then why do dvds front and compare their prices to personal lessons as if you're getting that on dvd, but for cheaper? You aren't getting that, because with personal lessons, its a whole new ball game.

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