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Offline fmason3

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Re: Gay Marriage
« Reply #120 on: May 26, 2009, 12:04:08 PM »
Quote from: brutha28 on May 26, 2009, 11:19:28 AM
I guess all the ten commandments should be nullified to huh... and while ur at it i guess the biggest law itself the bible might as well be trashed too.... mmmm.. naw that's what laws are for the lawless which are folks like us.. humans.  Even angels have laws.

I thought the ten commandments had been nullified.  At least, that was my understanding.
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Re: Gay Marriage
« Reply #121 on: May 26, 2009, 12:05:48 PM »
Quote from: fmason3 on May 26, 2009, 12:04:08 PM
I thought the ten commandments had been nullified.  At least, that was my understanding.

They've been fulfilled by Christ himself to my knowledge.  :-\
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Re: Gay Marriage
« Reply #122 on: May 26, 2009, 12:06:42 PM »
Quote from: sjonathan02 on May 26, 2009, 12:05:48 PM
They've been fulfilled by Christ, himself to my knowledge.  :-\

fulfilled = nullified?
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Re: Gay Marriage
« Reply #123 on: May 26, 2009, 12:13:02 PM »
Quote from: brutha28 on May 26, 2009, 11:19:28 AM
I guess all the ten commandments should be nullified to huh...
Only nullify 8 of them bruh.  80/20 rule.   ;D
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Re: Gay Marriage
« Reply #124 on: May 26, 2009, 12:15:10 PM »
Quote from: fmason3 on May 26, 2009, 12:06:42 PM
fulfilled = nullified?

You know what, actually, that's a good question.


Sabbath observers would say, 'No' I'm pretty sure.
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Re: Gay Marriage
« Reply #125 on: May 26, 2009, 12:16:56 PM »
Quote from: sjonathan02 on May 26, 2009, 12:05:48 PM
They've been fulfilled by Christ himself to my knowledge.  :-\


do you know what the definition of nullified is??????   No all of the scriptures have not been fulfilled.  Some of them have been fulfilled but not all.  I was making a clear distinction between why God made laws in the bible to the laws we have today.  And a law is not a fulfillment it is a requirement for all.  You have not fulfilled that law unless you have obeyed or acknowleged it and not have broken.  The context you reference with fulfillment and nullification is an erronious logic.  I guess you all say my logic is screwed up because i believe all the bible and not just portions i want to pick and choose that i am comfortable with.  Another thing i seem to have noticed no one has answered the question Incognegro brought up about Whether you believe God opposes same sex marriage...

So i will... YES God opposes it and if God does so must I .

I  Oppose it.
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Re: Gay Marriage
« Reply #126 on: May 26, 2009, 12:20:31 PM »
Quote from: themidiroom on May 26, 2009, 12:13:02 PM
Only nullify 8 of them bruh.  80/20 rule.   ;D

Now you're speakin my language!  :D
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Re: Gay Marriage
« Reply #127 on: May 26, 2009, 12:20:48 PM »
Quote from: sjonathan02 on May 26, 2009, 12:05:48 PM
They've been fulfilled by Christ himself to my knowledge.  :-\


I guess those commandments and the laws in the bible where only meant for Jesus Christ to adhere to and since he did that they are fulfilled....  ?/?
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Re: Gay Marriage
« Reply #128 on: May 26, 2009, 12:23:07 PM »
Quote from: brutha28 on May 26, 2009, 12:20:48 PM

I guess those commandments and the laws in the bible where only meant for Jesus Christ to adhere to and since he did that they are fulfilled....  ?/?

Meaning one of two things...

1. We have a license to live however we chose AND still go to heaven.
2. We have...well...I won't hijack the thread  :D
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Re: Gay Marriage
« Reply #129 on: May 26, 2009, 12:35:50 PM »
Well - California's Supreme Court has upheld Prop. 8, banning same-sex marriage - but has also refused to nullify the same-sex marriages made before it passed...

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Re: Gay Marriage
« Reply #130 on: May 26, 2009, 12:36:47 PM »
Quote from: betnich on May 26, 2009, 12:35:50 PM
Well - California's Supreme Court has upheld Prop. 8, banning same-sex marriage - but has also refused to nullify the same-sex marriages made before it passed...

?/?

Well that is a victory.....u win some u loose some... overall a HUGE WIN.
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Re: Gay Marriage
« Reply #131 on: May 26, 2009, 12:37:01 PM »
Quote from: fmason3 on May 26, 2009, 12:04:08 PM
I thought the ten commandments had been nullified.  At least, that was my understanding.

The Law has been fulfilled in Christ; therefore we are free from the law.  Under the law we were condemed, but under Christ we have grace.  We are not free to live lawlessly, but we are free to live in righteousness through Christ Jesus our Lord.  So it is not the law that has been nullified, but rather the judgement that we would have endured if not for the Jesus' blood.
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Re: Gay Marriage
« Reply #132 on: May 26, 2009, 12:43:10 PM »
Quote from: funkStrat_97 on May 26, 2009, 12:37:01 PM
The Law has been fulfilled in Christ; therefore we are free from the law.  Under the law we were condemed, but under Christ we have grace.  We are not free to live lawlessly, but we are free to live in righteousness through Christ Jesus our Lord.  So it is not the law that has been nullified, but rather the judgement that we would have endured if not for the Jesus' blood.


Indeed.


I was going to post this website...know what, I'll post it anyway:

What does it mean to fulfill the Law
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Re: Gay Marriage
« Reply #133 on: May 26, 2009, 12:45:40 PM »
Quote from: funkStrat_97 on May 26, 2009, 12:37:01 PM
The Law has been fulfilled in Christ; therefore we are free from the law.  Under the law we were condemed, but under Christ we have grace.  We are not free to live lawlessly, but we are free to live in righteousness through Christ Jesus our Lord.  So it is not the law that has been nullified, but rather the judgement that we would have endured if not for the Jesus' blood.

i'm talking about the ten commandments.  Do u know what nullified means?  judgement has not been nullified.  The penalty has been changed.  We wont be punished eternally for them.  So the laws remain its just the punishment from disobedience to these laws have been altered but neither changed nor nullified.
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Re: Gay Marriage
« Reply #134 on: May 26, 2009, 12:47:48 PM »
Quote from: brutha28 on May 26, 2009, 12:36:47 PM
overall a HUGE WIN.
Well I'm happy.   :D
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Re: Gay Marriage
« Reply #135 on: May 26, 2009, 12:49:33 PM »
Quote from: sjonathan02 on May 26, 2009, 12:43:10 PM
Indeed.


I was going to post this website...know what, I'll post it anyway:

What does it mean to fulfill the Law




Lemme help u by posting Scripture...


1 John 2:4  (King James Version)

2:1  My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
 
2:2  And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for our's only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
 
2:3  And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
 
2:4  He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
 
2:5  But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
 
2:6  He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
 
2:7  Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.
 
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Re: Gay Marriage
« Reply #136 on: May 26, 2009, 12:54:44 PM »
Quote from: sjonathan02 on May 26, 2009, 12:43:10 PM
Indeed.


I was going to post this website...know what, I'll post it anyway:

What does it mean to fulfill the Law


Those references are good.  but let me add.  in order to Fullfill one must first DO or have an action and that action must be in accordance to the law.  So in accordance to the law regarding homosexuality and marriage if one does not take any action towards the law of the Lord he is not in fulfillment towards that law but in disobedience.  Fullfillment = ACTION
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Re: Gay Marriage
« Reply #137 on: May 26, 2009, 12:55:48 PM »
Y'all know this is now officially my type of discussion.  But I'll refrain  :D
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Re: Gay Marriage
« Reply #138 on: May 26, 2009, 12:57:42 PM »
Also INACTION = ACTION as well.
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Re: Gay Marriage
« Reply #139 on: May 26, 2009, 12:58:22 PM »
Quote from: fmason3 on May 26, 2009, 12:55:48 PM
Y'all know this is now officially my type of discussion.  But I'll refrain  :D

Feel free.. i'm interested on peoples fews and perspectives.
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