Gay Marriage

[LaylaMonroe]

Bad Christian; bad bad bad ya hear me!

I'm sure that you wear pants, make up, and jewelry, listen to secular music, go to movies and have the ocasional glass of pinot noir after diner too!  I dunno about this LaRue chick; she must be a bad apple.


   

Pants - yep
Make-up - yep
Jewelry - yep
Secular music - rarely
Movies - rarely
Pinot Noir - NEVER... yuck! Hate that stuff... now offer me some White Merlot and you got yourself a bad apple, indeed! LOL

Should we speak out for healthy gay marriages also?  

Should we speak out against Gay marriages ending in divorce?

That's not what I'm saying at all.  To be honest, I think people should speak out against whatever they hold dear.  As I've said before, I participate in breast cancer walks and I'm a part of MADD and Women Against Domestic Violence.  That doesn't mean I don't care about diabetes, children with cleft palates or the homeless.

If a person feels passionately that they need to be outspoken against gay marriage, I support their right to speak out against it.  Whatever floats your boat.  I just don't agree with people telling me what I should speak out against.  I just feel a little irked that we, as a body, pay so much attention to preventing one group of society from marrying, and so little attention to ministering to those who are struggling to keep their marriages together or those who are shacking or remarrying. 

That's all I'm saying.  But, I don't want my point to be lost, so I'll reiterate: whatever floats your boat.

[themidiroom]

Homosexuals and gay marriage are easy targets.  There are a lot of other issues we should be just as vocal against but often aren't.  Leading by example is also a novel concept.

[Incognegro]

That's not what I'm saying at all.  To be honest, I think people should speak out against whatever they hold dear.  As I've said before, I participate in breast cancer walks and I'm a part of MADD and Women Against Domestic Violence.  That doesn't mean I don't care about diabetes, children with cleft palates or the homeless.

If a person feels passionately that they need to be outspoken against gay marriage, I support their right to speak out against it.  Whatever floats your boat.  I just don't agree with people telling me what I should speak out against.  I just feel a little irked that we, as a body, pay so much attention to preventing one group of society from marrying, and so little attention to ministering to those who are struggling to keep their marriages together or those who are shacking or remarrying. 

That's all I'm saying.  But, I don't want my point to be lost, so I'll reiterate: whatever floats your boat.

You could've simply said you don't want to answer the question.   

Homosexuals and gay marriage are easy targets.  There are a lot of other issues we should be just as vocal against but often aren't.  Leading by example is also a novel concept.

True.  But this thread is about Gay marriage.

[funkStrat_97]

Should we speak out for healthy gay marriages also?   

Should we speak out against Gay marriages ending in divorce?

No.  There are plenty of other people out there to do that.  But it is rather disturbing at the very least that the divorce rate among Christian is equal to the divorce rate of the world.  My original question was how does gay marriage pose a threat to heterosexual marriage and I don't see that it does.  There are other issues that seem to pose a much more imediate threat to the traditonal family structure including pornography, and the growing trend of young women (not teenagers) desiring to become mothers but have no intention of marrying the father or delay marriage until much later (and of course, the men are all too willing to go along for the ride...dogs we are I tell you).

[Incognegro]

Should we speak out for healthy gay marriages also?   

Should we speak out against Gay marriages ending in divorce?

No.  There are plenty of other people out there to do that.  But it is rather disturbing at the very least that the divorce rate among Christian is equal to the divorce rate of the world.  My original question was how does gay marriage pose a threat to heterosexual marriage and I don't see that it does.  There are other issues that seem to pose a much more imediate threat to the traditonal family structure including pornography, and the growing trend of young women (not teenagers) desiring to become mothers but have no intention of marrying the father or delay marriage until much later (and of course, the men are all too willing to go along for the ride...dogs we are I tell you).

Right answer, wrong reason.

[Incognegro]

Question:

Do you think God is for or opposed to Gay Marriages?

Please be honest.

[funkStrat_97]

You could've simply said you don't want to answer the question.   

Yeah she could have, but that wouldn't be any fun .

[LaylaMonroe]

You could've simply said you don't want to answer the question.   

Oh, I don't mind answering the question.  I assumed it was rhetorical.  

Should we speak out for healthy gay marriages also?

Ummm... my guess is that if a person doesn't support gay marriage, they probably wouldn't want to support healthy gay marriage.  So, that would be a no.   

Should we speak out against Gay marriages ending in divorce?

Same answer applies.

No.  There are plenty of other people out there to do that.  But it is rather disturbing at the very least that the divorce rate among Christian is equal to the divorce rate of the world.  My original question was how does gay marriage pose a threat to heterosexual marriage and I don't see that it does.  There are other issues that seem to pose a much more imediate threat to the traditonal family structure including pornography, and the growing trend of young women (not teenagers) desiring to become mothers but have no intention of marrying the father or delay marriage until much later (and of course, the men are all too willing to go along for the ride...dogs we are I tell you).

I totally agree.

[funkStrat_97]

Question:

Do you think God is for or opposed to Gay Marriages?

Please be honest.

Are you seriously asking this? 

[Incognegro]

Are you seriously asking this? 

Yes.  Will you answer?

[themidiroom]

True.  But this thread is about Gay marriage.

So we can only stay on topic?  Hmmmmm That would be a first.  We spend way more time talking about gay marriage than talking about what it takes to have healthy marriages.

[Incognegro]

So we can only stay on topic?  Hmmmmm That would be a first.  We spend way more time talking about gay marriage than talking about what it takes to have healthy marriages.

Nooooo, that's not what I meant.

I just didn't want us to use "there are other important things" as a excuse/backdoor to escape the topic at hand.

[SirTJ]

So we can only stay on topic?  Hmmmmm That would be a first.  We spend way more time talking about gay marriage than talking about what it takes to have healthy marriages.

Well, when yall decide to start talking about healthy marriages, I've got a few leftover tidbits from Psychology class that I can drop on yall. 

[sjonathan02]

Yes.  Will you answer?

What is the point of asking? 

[imani.keys]

I know where I stand, but I don't.  I was taught anything not for God is against God and no sin is bigger or smaller than any other sin. 

With this I hate being as undecided as I am because of my teaching, but it's perpelxing.  I don't usually get into things like this but I just thought I'd share my conflicted point of view.

Even though we can't force God's word on to people, God is still real whether any body believes it or not.  It's like gravity, I could say gravity is a bunch of balogna all I want, but the proof of it's existance is the fact that I'm still on the ground whether I want to believe in it or not.

I thought that giving gay people the same rights a married people but under a different name would be fine, but then I though about my gravity example.  I can say, "gravity isn't holding me down, Avengty's Law of Weight and People (made up) is holding me down."  Whatever, it's still gravity.

What I do know is if we go after gay marriage there's a crap load of other thing that we should go after as well.  This point was already made in this thread.  The thing is here that now the finger will be pointed back at the heterosexuals who commit these sins.  Maybe God allowed this to happen so that people could see just that.

This just seems like one of those situations where you can apply biblical principles, but you can't come swinging a Bible in your hand, you know? 

[themidiroom]

Well, when yall decide to start talking about healthy marriages, I've got a few leftover tidbits from Psychology class that I can drop on yall. 

Don't hold your breath TJ.  We kinda like having you around.   

[Incognegro]

What is the point of asking? 

Because I've seen comments to the effect of

"I don't care either way",
or
"Our laws don't govern others"

But if we know that God is opposed to it, how do we carry these views?

[Incognegro]

Question:

Do you think God is for or opposed to Gay Marriages?

Please be honest.

 

[Incognegro]

Well, when yall decide to start talking about healthy marriages, I've got a few leftover tidbits from Psychology class that I can drop on yall. 

Start a thread on healthy marriages and drop some knowledge on us Tj Freud.

 

[Fenix]

Homosexuals and gay marriage are easy targets.  There are a lot of other issues we should be just as vocal against but often aren't.  Leading by example is also a novel concept.

I totally agree.

**Setting up anti-themidiroom campaign**