Gay Marriage

[Incognegro]

I respect your viewpoints, but if you'll notice one major difference between my posts and yours is that my posts actually cite SCRIPTURE. Maybe that's why they're so "well-worded". 

Citing 20 scriptures to refute a point I WASN'T MAKING IN THE FIRST PLACE doesn't count. 

I guess the conclusion of the matter really is that at the end of the day, whatever punishment for whatever sin, whatever degree of the sin may or may not be, JESUS CHRIST paid for it on the cross. This is why we are all saved by grace, with no room for boasting that someone else's sin was greater than our's. We were ALL on the way to the same hell. Now THAT is scriptural. 

Silly Rabbit.   


I'll agree to the rest though.   

[themidiroom]

Seconded!!!

Wusssup Big T?  Haven't seen you in a minute.

[Big T.]

Wusssup Big T?  Haven't seen you in a minute.

Been working like a Hebrew. Finally have some free time to check in now and then.

[sjonathan02]

Been working like a Hebrew. Finally have some free time to check in now and then.

 

[kodacolor]

Not only that but he told the folks that was leavin from that place not even to look back upon it unless they were consumed by it and turned to a pillar of salt???? 

Um..yeah you're not supposed to want for what God brought your from in any circumstance.  There's probably some other place in the Bible where people got in trouble for going back to where God delivered them from.

God should have been a loving God and just turned his head and let them run there course and eventually things would turn around. 

God not doing something right away or even at all doesn't mean he's loving where as God punishing someone means that he's not loving towards them.

God knew the spirit of that demon was strong and there was NO HOPE. 

A strong demon is still no match for God.  God gives us chance after chance after chance to get it right.  He's not going to force obedience on us.  However, he's only going to wait but so long before he shuts that door.  Either ask God to help you out of something, to rid the demons in your life from you and you keep at it or you just give in to your flesh and ignore God.  If you choose to ignore God you choose His wrath as well.

Have you ever seen a preacher struggle with casting out the spirit of a homosexual individual.

I've yet to see a casting and I'm not really looking forward to it.  I heard it's a gruesome thing to see.

You seen anybody just come through the altar and be completely changed?  I haven't.  Usually they still have battles but if they continue to walk in Godliness they are able to defeat it.

True.

[COGIC4REAL]

The straw or A straw?     There's difference you know.

You clowning doc!

[Loopy]

Citing 20 scriptures to refute a point I WASN'T MAKING IN THE FIRST PLACE doesn't count. 

I'm sorry. You lost me here. What point weren't you making? 

Silly Rabbit.   


I'll agree to the rest though.   

I'm sorry again, maybe you thought that the part you're not agreeing to (the part about not boasting) was a point that I came up with myself, since I didn't post a scripture reference along with it. My apologies. Please see Ephesians 2:8-9. 

[Loopy]

Ok so answer this question straight up.  If sin is sin and homosexuality is just as worse as anyother sin then why is it the ONLY scripture in the bible that references God's destruction of it by FIRE and BRIMSTONE?  Not only that but he told the folks that was leavin from that place not even to look back upon it unless they were consumed by it and turned to a pillar of salt????  You got any ideas.  God should have been a loving God and just turned his head and let them run there course and eventually things would turn around.  NOPE.  God knew the spirit of that demon was strong and there was NO HOPE.  He didn't find the equivalent number of people needed to prevent it from is destruction.  So it lets me know that yes there may have been other sins going on but for some reason the author chose to focus on the homosexuality sins.  That is the ultimate reference we can have for dealing with this demon.  The demon of homosexuality is strong.  Some sins are not as strong as others in terms of demonic presence.  Have you ever seen a preacher struggle with casting out the spirit of a homosexual individual.  You seen anybody just come through the altar and be completely changed?  I haven't.  Usually they still have battles but if they continue to walk in Godliness they are able to defeat it.

You sure have very STRONG feelings about the sin of homosexuality. Are you a counselor or something? 

Or perhaps are you just speaking from personal experience?

[Incognegro]

I'm sorry again, maybe you thought that the part you're not agreeing to (the part about not boasting) was a point that I came up with myself, since I didn't post a scripture reference along with it. My apologies. Please see Ephesians 2:8-9. 

Yes bro, you can use biblegateway.com.   

...and yes, you did take a potshot at me with the boasting comment.  But it's cool.   

[Loopy]

Yes bro, you can use biblegateway.com.   

...and yes, you did take a potshot at me with the boasting comment.  But it's cool.   

OK let me clear the record. First of all, I didn't use biblegateway.com to come up with that scripture. Some of us actually KNOW some scriptures! (Note: there is nothing, however, wrong with using bible gateway. Talk about "potshots"! Geez). 

I was NOT, I repeat NOT taking a potshot at you with the "boasting" comment. That's the God's honest truth. The whole reason for me to reference "boasting" was with that scripture in mind. If you reread my comments, you will clearly see that I was referring to that scripture because I was talking about salvation through Christ, and if you READ the scripture, the word "boast" is the actual terminology that the bible uses. You TOTALLY misread me on that one, bro. 

I have been known to take some potshots at folks at times (I will admit it), but I was not trying to take a potshot at you with that one. I apologize if it came across that way, but that was NOT my intention. Now I understand why you said "silly rabbit", because honestly I didn't at first.

[Incognegro]

OK let me clear the record. First of all, I didn't use biblegateway.com to come up with that scripture. Some of us actually KNOW some scriptures! (Note: there is nothing, however, wrong with using bible gateway. Talk about "potshots"! Geez). 

I was NOT, I repeat NOT taking a potshot at you with the "boasting" comment. That's the God's honest truth. The whole reason for me to reference "boasting" was with that scripture in mind. If you reread my comments, you will clearly see that I was referring to that scripture because I was talking about salvation through Christ, and if you READ the scripture, the word "boast" is the actual terminology that the bible uses. You TOTALLY misread me on that one, bro. 

I have been known to take some potshots at folks at times (I will admit it), but I was not trying to take a potshot at you with that one. I apologize if it came across that way, but that was NOT my intention. Now I understand why you said "silly rabbit", because honestly I didn't at first.

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[Loopy]

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[Incognegro]

 

It's all good.  We're cool.   

[Loopy]

It's all good.  We're cool.   

Fo sho, bro! 

<----Gives Incognegro the "Obama fist-bump".

[BBoy]

The color mauve isn't a sin.

The Bible doesn't speak of the color mauve as "working that which is unseemly" or "forsaking the natural use." (Romans Ch 1)

Impressionable young people who see the color mauve may very well walk around and say, "Hey, evidently there is nothing wrong with mauve, because they have painted their house mauve and my parents and society say it is okay, so it must be okay. Or they don't speak out against it, and if it were wrong they would speak out against it."

And yes, we need to speak out against heterosexual fornication as well.  Not speaking out against it has resulted in the shape of families (or lack of families) today; young people seem to believe that fornication is no big thing anymore. They don't realize that it impacts their entire life, many times in ways they don't know.

For instance, many times a person who has been in this sin, when married, struggles to attain a level of intimacy because they have learned to hold back part of themselves. It was the only way to protect themselves when they were sinning. Now they have a stronghold in that area, and it is a problem for them and their spouse.

Not only that, but the Bible clearly says that we are not to be deceived, and then lists those who will not inherit the Kingdom of GOD. Fornicators are among that list.   

However, heterosexual desire is not against nature, the Bible clearly says that homosexual desire is. God will bless heterosexual desire as long as it is within marriage; saved couples can and should ask GOD to anoint them to meet the other person's needs so they can be a blessing to their spouse.

BBoy 

[Incognegro]

Fo sho, bro!&nbsp;

<----Gives Incognegro the "Obama fist-bump".

"I don't wanna shoot him no more...so...I think that's a step in the right direction."

[funkStrat_97]

The color mauve isn't a sin.

Yeah it is ! 




So: who among us has been speaking out agianst homsexuality in a context other than LGM?  How many of you have actually taken your message to the steet and what kind of reaction did you get?

[Loopy]

The color mauve isn't a sin.

The Bible doesn't speak of the color mauve as "working that which is unseemly" or "forsaking the natural use." (Romans Ch 1)

Impressionable young people who see the color mauve may very well walk around and say, "Hey, evidently there is nothing wrong with mauve, because they have painted their house mauve and my parents and society say it is okay, so it must be okay. Or they don't speak out against it, and if it were wrong they would speak out against it."

Ok, BBoy, all LATE to the discussion. 

The bible doesn't mention the color mauve at all. The "color mauve" example was in reference to the secular, legal viewpoint. I don't recall anyone here suggesting that homosexuality was not a sin. But there are many, MANY other sins that are not ILLEGAL, and the point is that there are times when you are not going to be able to apply your religious views to the rule of law. This is one of them. There are people who believe with ALL THEIR HEATRS that the mixing of the races is SINFUL, and they teach and preach against it in their homes and churches. It is their RIGHT to hold those views, and to teach their children likewise, but they cannot force those views upon the rest of society.

I also seriously doubt that anyone who is homosexual is that way because their parents and churches didn't "speak out against it enough". Why do you think that the churches that are the most "anti-gay" have the MOST homosexuals?

[Loopy]

"I don't wanna shoot him no more...so...I think that's a step in the right direction."

PWAAHAHAHAHHAA! 

[Incognegro]

Homosexuals getting married will lead to homosexuality becoming even more mainstream than it is now. 

That is a valid reason why we, as christians, should oppose homosexuals shouldn't get married.

There are zero reasons why we, as christians, would be better served to keep our mouths shut.