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The run ins of the keyboardists
« on: July 30, 2009, 06:01:19 PM »
Hiya everyone in the LGM church,this is sort've my first postage here just like how I'm new to the keyboard. I have listened to some great songs and seen great music concert dvds and in every one of those cds&dvds,the keyboardist does something wonderful yet difficult for me to do on my casio ct-700,and these are nice intro runs,awesome fill-ins(I believe that's what they call it when the keyboardist starts going up&down the keyboard with his fingers gently sliding to some sort of scale arrangement)and does a superb outro to the song. I've been practicing on my scales,mostly the major ones,for some months now,but find it very difficult to be fluid in playing those to,can anyone help me that issue,and basically explain to me what happens when a keyboardists' hands starts going up&down the keyboard as they're on fire
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Re: The run ins of the keyboardists
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2009, 06:40:02 PM »
Keyboard runs- well I started weekly piano lessons at age 6 and now 61 so I guess it's a lifelong thing. A couple things come to mind tho, that may help you:
1) check the fingering that you're using. there are "standard" fingerings for doing scales; not that non-standard won't work, but if you're doing something 'creative', using the standard way may help
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2) practice the scales in all the keys. Other posts on here emphasize the need to practice songs in all the keys. well, it would be the same with scales, and one would help the other.
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3) If you're not getting scales quickly enough, you could try the glissando. Glissando is where you tuck your thumb under the palm of your hand and slide it up or down the (usually white) keys. I saw this really nice tutorial video where an older lady (kinda my age) was playing a traditional song; great rhythm and movements, good harmony and every now and then she'd just do a Surprise glissando at some break or turn-around point in the song. Really effective for getting attention (but can be overdone too).
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Re: The run ins of the keyboardists
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2009, 06:43:33 PM »
Just practice you scales in every key. You said that you were new to the keys, so dont expect it to be come easy or any time soon. So like I said, practice your scales with the proper fingering going in both directions. for best results you should probably do it with a metronome, and increase the tempo once you master them at a slower speed.

as for the gliding up the keys, yeah it is hard to do on a non weighted board, but not impossible, just practice it, and end on the note of the key that you are in.

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Re: The run ins of the keyboardists
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2009, 08:13:34 PM »
Hiya everyone in the LGM church,this is sort've my first postage here just like how I'm new to the keyboard. I have listened to some great songs and seen great music concert dvds and in every one of those cds&dvds,the keyboardist does something wonderful yet difficult for me to do on my casio ct-700,and these are nice intro runs,awesome fill-ins(I believe that's what they call it when the keyboardist starts going up&down the keyboard with his fingers gently sliding to some sort of scale arrangement)and does a superb outro to the song. I've been practicing on my scales,mostly the major ones,for some months now,but find it very difficult to be fluid in playing those to,can anyone help me that issue,and basically explain to me what happens when a keyboardists' hands starts going up&down the keyboard as they're on fire

Aiight man, the first piece of advice I'm gonna give you is SLOW DOWN. Don't jump ahead of where you are. I know the music u hear sounds nice, but you aren't ready for it yet. You need to keep working on the basics, stick with those major scale w/proper fingering. Then, move onto learning basic chords and chord progressions.

The "show-off" stuff can wait until u got a good foundation in music and on the keys. You will get there in time man. I will tell u this, that music you hear probably came from years and years of practice. You can't expect to play like that overnight.

There's no magic pills or formulas, it's just plain old hard work and lots of it. A lot of it starts with your mind. Once u understand the music u want to play, it won't take to long to teach ur fingers what to do.

U15 gave u some good advice about practicing with a metronome. What u need is something that keeps a steady rhythm. Play ur scales with the steady rhythm using proper fingering. Start slow, then increase speed as ur accuracy increases.
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Re: The run ins of the keyboardists
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2009, 08:17:53 AM »

There's no magic pills or formulas
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Re: The run ins of the keyboardists
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2009, 01:20:22 PM »
well spoken T

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Re: The run ins of the keyboardists
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2009, 03:17:44 PM »
Aiight man, the first piece of advice I'm gonna give you is SLOW DOWN. Don't jump ahead of where you are. I know the music u hear sounds nice, but you aren't ready for it yet. You need to keep working on the basics, stick with those major scale w/proper fingering. Then, move onto learning basic chords and chord progressions.

The "show-off" stuff can wait until u got a good foundation in music and on the keys. You will get there in time man. I will tell u this, that music you hear probably came from years and years of practice. You can't expect to play like that overnight.

There's no magic pills or formulas, it's just plain old hard work and lots of it. A lot of it starts with your mind. Once u understand the music u want to play, it won't take to long to teach ur fingers what to do.

U15 gave u some good advice about practicing with a metronome. What u need is something that keeps a steady rhythm. Play ur scales with the steady rhythm using proper fingering. Start slow, then increase speed as ur accuracy increases.
I just want to add to what T-block has already said by saying that I know how it feels to want to play like other people so bad. I listen to certain musicians and I just wish that I had their ability but they didn't get where they are over-night. Some of the same issues that you and I are running into, they have already gone through. My main embarassment as a musician is that my ears aren't as sharp as they need to be. I have been in tears because I know that my ability to hear determines how well or how bad someone sounds. I come to LGM and try to name the key of a song and I've been wrong a lot but what keeps me going is the fact that I WANT TO BE THE BEST MUSICIAN I CAN BE SO BAD!! I realize that just wanting it isn't enough but I put practice behind that desire and I know that soon I will be able to get it right. Just keep wanting it and keep pressing forward...it'll come. I played today in front of more people than I ever have and my ear functioned pretty well. I knew that I was off at times but I kept trying and they appreciated the fact that I care so much. But anywho just keep pressing...it'll come!!!
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Re: The run ins of the keyboardists
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2009, 10:31:32 PM »
if you have the option to use weighted keys, do that. you'll develop strength in the long run.

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Re: The run ins of the keyboardists
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2009, 12:36:54 AM »
if you have the option to use weighted keys, do that. you'll develop strength in the long run.
Absolutely!! My MO8 has those weighted keys which almost killed me when I first got it but now I can't stand playing without em.
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Re: The run ins of the keyboardists
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2009, 07:05:42 AM »
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Aiight man, the first piece of advice I'm gonna give you is SLOW DOWN. Don't jump ahead of where you are. I know the music u hear sounds nice, but you aren't ready for it yet. You need to keep working on the basics, stick with those major scale w/proper fingering. Then, move onto learning basic chords and chord progressions.

The "show-off" stuff can wait until u got a good foundation in music and on the keys. You will get there in time man. I will tell u this, that music you hear probably came from years and years of practice. You can't expect to play like that overnight.

There's no magic pills or formulas, it's just plain old hard work and lots of it. A lot of it starts with your mind. Once u understand the music u want to play, it won't take to long to teach ur fingers what to do.

U15 gave u some good advice about practicing with a metronome. What u need is something that keeps a steady rhythm. Play ur scales with the steady rhythm using proper fingering. Start slow, then increase speed as ur accuracy increases.

Just to piggy back.  You have to crawl before you walk.  When I first started, I wanted to do all the nice runs and fancy stuff like you.  I think we have all been there.  I bought a book that taught me how to read and write music.  Because someone taught me some chords and how to learn simple songs by ear, it was like learning another language.  You have to be discipline enough to stick with the basics until you are fluent.  The best musicians are the most discipline musicians.

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Re: The run ins of the keyboardists
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2009, 10:23:54 PM »
Just to piggy back.  You have to crawl before you walk.  When I first started, I wanted to do all the nice runs and fancy stuff like you.  I think we have all been there.  I bought a book that taught me how to read and write music.  Because someone taught me some chords and how to learn simple songs by ear, it was like learning another language.  You have to be discipline enough to stick with the basics until you are fluent.  The best musicians are the most discipline musicians.

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Thank you so much for saying this...I needed it!! Remain blessed
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