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Offline craigory

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Dents, dings and scratches on your bass
« on: January 25, 2010, 05:23:28 PM »
Greetings LGM Brothers! I was just wondering if anyone takes pride in having a dented up, scratched up bass which is supposed to show use and vintage. Fender has a "new" Jazz Bass which looks totally beat down at a price of $4000.00. I have a Fender Jazz 5 Am. Deluxe with 10 years on her and she looks as good as she sounds!! I take good care of my stuff, I was just wondering if a beat up bass is something to be proud of.

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Re: Dents, dings and scratches on your bass
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2010, 09:42:14 PM »
For some, perhaps. I have read threads in talkbass where bass owners distress their basses on purpose. They use the term "relic" as a verb rather than a noun.

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Re: Dents, dings and scratches on your bass
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2010, 09:44:26 PM »
Though I inevitably fail, pride is something I try to completly quell.

I will say though that to look back at relish what one has gone through to get where he/she is, is always interesting and often exciting.  To do it it with reference to my own life is simply fun reminiscence or nostaliga.

I think the appeal of a beat up bass is in its story.  When we first began dating, my fiance (May 8, 2010) wrote a poem which sits on my desk at work.  One of the verses references scars on my arms then eludes to the unique and intimate story it tells when she rubs her fingers over them.

Similarly, my nick here, lowlife350, was in reference to Nefertiti, my 1990 Chevy 350 lowrider, before my allegiance to the lowend.  Nefertiti was cherry when I bought her, and I honstly tried to keep her that way.  But 8 years of being a struggling student forced me to prioritize.  Now, Nefertiti still sits with the wear and abuse of a poor college kid.  She mostly suffered from neglect and could really use some counseling; but the abusive wear I see on my truck, for me, reflects many of my past trials and instantly takes me back to those moments.

Still though, when I sit in the drivers seat, and rev that 350 with those headers and that dual flowmaster exhaust, I feel no other vehicle compares.  It's like I am at home.  It isn't the best looking truck on the road, but that pride creeps up on me when that Ford F-150 or mustang pulls up along side.

Blah Blah Blah...sorry...anyway, that being said.  It seems asinine that to pay 100's or 1000's more for something to look like someone took a hammer and sandpaper to.

Anyone looking for a "Road Worn" can rent out my chisels and rasps.

(know though that is isn't just instruments.  Jeans have been sold ripped and faded for many years.  The latest, or maybe dying, trend in decorating seems to be distressed furniture and floors.  Again...I am not totaly sure why new should look old)

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Re: Dents, dings and scratches on your bass
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2010, 09:58:37 AM »
I have dents and niches on my four string. I hope I don't on my six. This is one reason I partly do not like friends staying at my house while I'm not there because they will tear up your stuff and not say anything until you notice it.  :P I usually don't like non musicians touching my stuff either. They tend to find some way to bump it. I have to get better at taking care of my gear too.
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Re: Dents, dings and scratches on your bass
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2010, 12:03:53 PM »
I have dents and niches on my four string. I hope I don't on my six. This is one reason I partly do not like friends staying at my house while I'm not there because they will tear up your stuff and not say anything until you notice it.  :P I usually don't like non musicians touching my stuff either. They tend to find some way to bump it. I have to get better at taking care of my gear too.

ROTFL. I know exactly what you mean. Its like non musicians have no concept of space. They'll just strap your bass on and then make sudden movements and turns without noticing obstacles near by and just tear your instrument up and say "Oohh...My bad".

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Re: Dents, dings and scratches on your bass
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2010, 10:46:10 PM »
I think it's okay for us to have pride in our gear, but if it goes too far you can bet you'll have a lesson in humility coming. After our Wednesday night community dinner for the homeless, I sometimes would sit and teach one of the volunteers how to play a little guitar. One night his grandson accidentally knocked a music stand over and it put a ding in my ultra soft mahogany bass. I was upset about it for the first few songs at rehearsal but as we started playing more, I felt God saying, "You may be playing music through a dinged up bass, but I'm playing through a dinged up bassist." I'm not perfect and he still loves and uses me, so I don't mind the dents in my bass so much.

I'm sure I'd have felt differently if this had happened back when I was playing out at the clubs.
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Re: Dents, dings and scratches on your bass
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2010, 09:01:07 AM »
I would not have brought that bass out. Or I would have just let them know I'm particular about it. This is one reason I don't think I would by and expensive car. I hate paying a great price fir something and someone comes and messes it up.  :D

I didn't pay much for my six but I'm more careful with it. I don't even lend it out anymore. It depends on the relational value of the instrument. If I had a $1000-3000 keyboard I'm not going to let someone play on it without being around. Or I would say something about it. That's why I take my radio shack keyboard out. :) One of my friends that stays at my house at times makes me nervous when I leave because he hooks the computer up to my sound system and EQs the bass up. Watching YouTube videos the volume drastically changes.  ::) At times he hooks the bass up and plays along. lol You know how some beginners pluck the strings real hard. I have told him to turn it down in the past but it actually gets under my skin somewhat knowing that people could be abusing your stuff.

I say sometimes God has more work to do on me. It's like when we were young and dad gave us the car. We blasted the radio knowning we could blow the speakers but didn't care because we wouldn't have to pay for it.  :D Understand more clearly now. lol You cast your pearls before swine and they will trample them under their feet. Not calling anybody a pig but they don't reverence the value as you do.
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Re: Dents, dings and scratches on your bass
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2010, 10:02:02 AM »
A lesson I learned: I was working on a car and my 5 yr old daughter was playing with my telescopic magnet. Then I heard a long scratching sound where she dragged the magnet across the paint on my Trailblazer. When I went over there, she had that look in her eyes like "oops - I think I just did something wrong". Before I spoke, I thought that I didn't want to create a negative memory that may last her a lifetime over a car that would probably be traded in a year or two.
Since then, I try not to trip over things; if it's that important, I'll keep it put away.


It's funny how when the things we value get old, they become vintage, relics and antiques while the things we don't value become old, outdate and obsolete.

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Re: Dents, dings and scratches on your bass
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2010, 10:14:20 AM »
In part the question is do I have the finances to replace it? lol Or should I spend the money to replace it?
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Re: Dents, dings and scratches on your bass
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2010, 11:39:15 AM »
we should probably know the difference between whats normal wear and tear, and whats just not taking care of your stuff.
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Re: Dents, dings and scratches on your bass
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2010, 11:41:25 AM »
...I was just wondering if anyone takes pride in having a dented up, scratched up bass which is supposed to show use and vintage...I have a Fender Jazz 5 Am. Deluxe with 10 years on her and she looks as good as she sounds!! I take good care of my stuff, I was just wondering if a beat up bass is something to be proud of.

As far as the original post; IMO, to buy a "road worn" bass is to give a false impression that you and that bass been around the world a couple of times - IOW you look like you're faking it.
Jaco Pastorius has a raggedy looking bass but I'm sure he put in work.

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Re: Dents, dings and scratches on your bass
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2010, 03:11:59 PM »
For some, perhaps. I have read threads in talkbass where bass owners distress their basses on purpose. They use the term "relic" as a verb rather than a noun.
that would be me ! lol

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Re: Dents, dings and scratches on your bass
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2010, 04:05:59 PM »
I don't think I'm too anal, I usually wipe down my strings after playing, have a good sturdy stand & watch my basses like a hawk. I just look at them as fine instruments worthy of respect.

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Re: Dents, dings and scratches on your bass
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2010, 05:04:15 PM »
I don't know about intentionally scratching up your bass to make it look more authentic, but I got a $800 bass for $150 because the horn was chipped to the wood. I used enamel nail polish to seal the chipped area then color matched the emerald green finish. I soon forgot the chip was there and nobody has pointed it out.

On the other side, I about passed out when I discovered that my prized P-Bass had a dimple on the bottom body where I dropped it on a single post guitar stand. I immediately went out and bought a padded 2 post guitar stand with a rubberband to hold the bass in the stand.

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Re: Dents, dings and scratches on your bass
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2010, 08:27:25 PM »
I think a dinged up bass that still delivers a great sound is the sign of a great instrument.  Now paying extra for a brand new axe that somebody else beat up for you is ridiculous.  I have a catalog where there selling a "relic'd" Fender jazz bass and the identical unblemished version with the relic'd version costing much more.  I just don't see the logic in that.  In fact Fender has an entire "Road Worn" series at a premium price.  It's just another marketing ploy, and incredibly it works.  I would just buy a used bass and take some sandpaper and a screwdriver to it and pocket the difference if I just have to have a worn bass.  Now my best friend has a Yamaha BB5000 neck-thru bass that he's owned for about 20 years now, and it's dinged and the gold hardware is tarnished like crazy along with the white paint job taking on a faded and slightly dingy hue.  That thing sounds INCREDIBLE, and is his favorite bass.   

As for my bass, I baby it.  I knocked it up against my computer table while recording with it last night, and almost lost my mind.  Fortunately, no damage was done.  Even though I have a stand for it, I keep it in the gig bag when not using it. 
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Re: Dents, dings and scratches on your bass
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2010, 03:34:46 PM »
James Jamerson wore the Funk Machine out!!!

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Re: Dents, dings and scratches on your bass
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2010, 09:27:56 PM »
At church on sunday i want my two bass,s ,the one i play and one in the stand to look good .I do not  want  any dents, dings and no scratches. it look bad  on you .( you not at a club.) You in god house ,all thing  much be in order. YOU WOULD NOT LET YOUR HOUSE AND CAR,S  BE RUN DOWN,S            RDL#1
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