Nah I ain talking about your first car, you know that old Tercel with the back seat tore out and the passenger seat layed all the way back to fit your kit that was worth more than the car. lol Just wanted to know whats a good beater for my 9000. I had the dw on there but it was too short, had put the Tama IC beater on but not heavy enough. I see these puresounds, slugs, wood, danbar, and others and would really like to know LGM's viewpoint on a good beater.