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« on: November 15, 2009, 10:34:16 PM » |
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Question for yall: Am I the only one who doesent like when preachers/evangelists etc preach entire sermons reciting cliche phrases, and does not really teach anything? I mean at least have a clear message and talk about salvation for those who may not be saved. How you gonna have an alter call on a Sunday Mornin' when you didnt even mention Jesus??? ......Maybe I've been spoiled by good preaching.... *Disclaimer, I'm not trying to put down the mants of Gawd....I know how some of yall get....  |
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« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2009, 10:55:55 PM » |
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No, I'm not a fan of that at all. In fact, I usually lose interest pretty quick if nothing's being said.
On that note, for a while yesterday (Saturday- for those seeing this on Monday) I felt that way. Dude spent the first hour out of 4 telling his life story- which wouldn't have been so bad if his story had anything to do with the subject matter. But, I'm gonna leave that alone cuz I know some people got more out of it than I did.
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« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2009, 10:59:44 PM » |
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Question for yall: Am I the only one who doesent like when preachers/evangelists etc preach entire sermons reciting cliche phrases, and does not really teach anything? I mean at least have a clear message and talk about salvation for those who may not be saved. How you gonna have an alter call on a Sunday Mornin' when you didnt even mention Jesus??? ......Maybe I've been spoiled by good preaching.... *Disclaimer, I'm not trying to put down the mants of Gawd....I know how some of yall get.... Nope you're not alone in that at all. It's time out for just sounding good, IMO. Sound without substance is why the BOC is in the condition its in. |
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« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2009, 11:06:35 PM » |
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Hate it. Ive had my share. I feel like Im at a leadership training for Dunder Mifflin.
"Together Everyone Achieves More"
"We might not have it all together, but together we have it all."
"Theres no I in team"
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« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2009, 11:10:41 PM » |
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Those types of sermons are for those that came to be entertained.
"Theres no I in team"
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« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2009, 11:31:20 PM » |
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I don't mind 'em. Sometimes a brother just needs somee sleep in church.  |
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« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2009, 07:26:54 AM » |
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I don't mind it too bad if it only happens on occasion.
To be honest, I'm a church kid. Born and raised in church, been in church my whole life. I've pretty much heard every sermon out there, and every new spin or new revelation on it. But I realized that sometimes, a word is "cliche" for me, but it might be CPR for the person sitting beside me. You just never know what will bless a person.
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« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2009, 07:40:15 AM » |
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I've pretty much heard every sermon out there, and every new spin or new revelation on it. I'm pretty sure you haven't.  |
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« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2009, 08:00:59 AM » |
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I recently heard a preacher who O-R'd. He "over rhymed". It was the death of his message. The people in the congregation was not on board with him, but he kept doing it. It was so obvious that we was trying to get a reaction from his audience. He did every cliche, rhyme, and even pulled out a few songs. He really didn't deal with the text. I called him the suicide preacher because he killed himself with all of that "entertainment'.
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« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2009, 08:04:01 AM » |
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I called him The Suicide Preacher because he killed himself with all of that "entertainment'. |
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« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2009, 08:06:31 AM » |
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I recently heard a preacher who O-R'd. He "over rhymed". It was the death of his message. The people in the congregation was not on board with him, but he kept doing it. It was so obvious that we was trying to get a reaction from his audience. He did every cliche, rhyme, and even pulled out a few songs. He really didn't deal with the text. I called him the suicide preacher because he killed himself with all of that "entertainment'.
UGGGHHHH!!!! Hate hate! What ticks me off is that some preachers don't realize that people sacrifice to come to church to hear a word FROM THE LORD! I've seen people take buses and trains to get there, or walk. I've seen people spend their last $4 in gas money to get there. I've seen people fight colds and flus to get there. I've seen people coming straight to 10:00a service from working the 11-7 shift. I've seen folks who are just doggone tired and don't feel like going to church... but they press their way to get a word from the Lord and fellowship with the saints. To go through all that and get a bunch of Dr. Seuss rhymes is really frustrating. I'm pretty sure you haven't. I'll let you know the next time I hear one that's not new to me. |
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« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2009, 03:54:22 PM » |
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UGGGHHHH!!!! Hate hate!
What ticks me off is that some preachers don't realize that people sacrifice to come to church to hear a word FROM THE LORD! I've seen people take buses and trains to get there, or walk. I've seen people spend their last $4 in gas money to get there. I've seen people fight colds and flus to get there. I've seen people coming straight to 10:00a service from working the 11-7 shift. I've seen folks who are just doggone tired and don't feel like going to church... but they press their way to get a word from the Lord and fellowship with the saints.
To go through all that and get a bunch of Dr. Seuss rhymes is really frustrating.
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« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2009, 04:13:20 PM » |
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I hate when they are trying to be so funny that they forget that they have to deliver the word. You end up and a comedy show instead being fed the word. There's nothing wrong with having a little fun.There is something wrong when all someone has to say about a sermon is, "That preacher sho' was funny"...  . Like somebody said, sometimes you "need" to hear a word. It's such a disappointment when you leave feeling like you hadn't received anything... |
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« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2009, 04:33:23 PM » |
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UGGGHHHH!!!! Hate hate! What ticks me off is that some preachers don't realize that people sacrifice to come to church to hear a word FROM THE LORD! I've seen people take buses and trains to get there, or walk. I've seen people spend their last $4 in gas money to get there. I've seen people fight colds and flus to get there. I've seen people coming straight to 10:00a service from working the 11-7 shift. I've seen folks who are just doggone tired and don't feel like going to church... but they press their way to get a word from the Lord and fellowship with the saints. To go through all that and get a bunch of Dr. Seuss rhymes is really frustrating. I'll let you know the next time I hear one that's not new to me. I forgot all about this. I'm going to have to put a bug in the ear of the preachers I know. People are making great sacrifices for them to half pray and study. But then some preachers you can't tell them they ain't preaching lol. |
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Enough with the banging on instruments. When are you going to start playing it?
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« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2009, 07:22:43 PM » |
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This thread makes me question the tradition of whooping and rather it's even relevant towards bringing the preached word of God....lol!
But really that's one thing I like about our new Pastor. He just preaches the word for 25-30 minutes, gives you the Baptist ending of the sermon and we done. He has had messages on the border of talking about stuff (venting) but never like our former pastor who would get up for like 45 minutes and talk about stuff irrelevant to the Word.
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« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2009, 07:38:24 PM » |
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This thread makes me question the tradition of whooping and rather it's even relevant towards bringing the preached word of God....lol!
reminds me of one of my pet peaves. Why do some preachers have to yell and scream though the entire message? I can get with the hooping at the end, but why cant you talk to us in a indoor voice until you get to the end. Sorry for venting, but I really do hate being screamed at during the entire message. |
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« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2009, 07:40:11 PM » |
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reminds me of one of my pet peaves.
Why do some preachers have to yell and scream though the entire message? I can get with the hooping at the end, but why cant you talk to us in a indoor voice until you get to the end. Sorry for venting, but I really do hate being screamed at during the entire message.
This is the tradition of black preaching and one could also argue preaching in general. When we think of preaching we think of declaration and ususally when you're declaring something you're declaring with boldness. I think this is the same idea used when preaching, particuarly in black context. |
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« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2009, 07:42:39 PM » |
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reminds me of one of my pet peaves.
Why do some preachers have to yell and scream though the entire message? I can get with the hooping at the end, but why cant you talk to us in a indoor voice until you get to the end. Sorry for venting, but I really do hate being screamed at during the entire message.
screamed at. that's funny. i hear you man. |
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« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2009, 11:06:41 PM » |
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This is the tradition of black preaching and one could also argue preaching in general.
I heard that the tradition of black preaching started back in the day when the Pastor, Rev, etc had to project or yell to make sure everyone could hear because they couldn't get/afford microphones. Can anyone confirm or deny that. I'm not sure if this is a preaching in general. The only preachers I've seen in person were black. I've heard about 3-4 white preachers and 1 Latino preacher and none of them whooped. Sure, I heard them on the radio, but I've heard black preachers on the radio too. They whoop even on the radio. (But all the radio is playing is a CD of an already done sermon in all cases) |
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« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2009, 11:17:00 PM » |
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I heard that the tradition of black preaching started back in the day when the Pastor, Rev, etc had to project or yell to make sure everyone could hear because they couldn't get/afford microphones. Can anyone confirm or deny that.
I'm not sure if this is a preaching in general. The only preachers I've seen in person were black. I've heard about 3-4 white preachers and 1 Latino preacher and none of them whooped. Sure, I heard them on the radio, but I've heard black preachers on the radio too. They whoop even on the radio. (But all the radio is playing is a CD of an already done sermon in all cases)
I'm not directly sure but I do know that whooping is a very distinct characteristic of black preaching and has a lot to do with our social history (oppression, slavery, segregation, etc.). In other words, whooping is not essential but just a part of our culture. I think culture plays a deep role in how many of us view the things of Christianity. Some would go as far to argue that culture is absolutely relevant when it comes to discussing Christianity. |
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