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« on: November 20, 2009, 09:04:01 AM » |
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I have a situation and I figured you guys would know where I can find the answer.
At my church the drums are simply too loud. I routinely have to remind myself and other drummers to play softer. But playing softer sometimes severely limits my desire to play.
Could someone provide me with a list of options that would reduce the overall "loudness" of the drum set?
If you could please list them in descending order. That way the first option makes the biggest change in how loud the set is and the last option makes a small change in how loud the set is.
Many thanks!
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« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2009, 11:52:07 AM » |
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the easiest solution is a sound screen it helps, question also so should be is where exactly is your drums set up, meaning if the drums are directing towards the congregation of course there are going to be complaints, as with any congregation, because they have to understand drums are an acoustic instrument or instruments, its not like you have a control switch where you can turn yourself up or down, but you can control your volume takes practice, the harder you hit the louder, lighter less
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betnich
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« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2009, 01:36:23 PM » |
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Possible solutions - 1. Put Drums in very back of platform 2. Get plexiglass Drum shield - tell drummers they can wail on the fast songs, but tone it done for slower ones 3. Get MIDI drum set (more controllable by the sound people) 4. Fix those 'ol people's hearing aids, or have them sit in the back, instead of the very first row...  |
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robdown
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« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2009, 02:46:12 PM » |
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1. Dynamics: believe it or not, you can still blaze and hold a pocket at low levels.
2. Drum Shield: if the church is super-tiny, you should also think about placing absorbent material behind the kit so sounds bouncing off the shield are controlled.
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phbrown
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« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2009, 02:55:17 PM » |
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 Is the layout of the church. It may not be to scale I just did this off of how large i think the place is relative to what I remember. Red dots are the speakers Blue dots are the mics. Any suggestions on a sound screen? I was thinking to just make one myself out of plexiglass. |
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« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2009, 08:00:08 PM » |
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Hi fives robdown thanks for saying that, i was trying to sayit that way just didnt come out like that
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phbrown
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« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2009, 10:29:40 PM » |
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Thank you everyone. I will buy or build a drum shield and place some absorbent material between the kit and the shield.
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« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2009, 01:46:48 PM » |
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You could use hot sticks....
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phbrown
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« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2009, 10:36:45 PM » |
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You could use hot sticks....
sorry i'm not familiar with hot sticks. What are they? Or were you joking? |
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« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2009, 12:13:20 PM » |
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sorry i'm not familiar with hot sticks.
What are they?
Or were you joking?
sorry i'm not familiar with hot sticks.
What are they?
Or were you joking?
sorry i'm not familiar with hot sticks.
What are they?
Or were you joking?
Sort of both....they are no where near as loud as drum sticks, but you may not get the drumming effect you desire. They are called Hot Rod Sticks (I call them hot sticks). You may know what they are....maybe even have a pair. http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/ProMark-Hot-Rod-Sticks?sku=443400 |
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« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2009, 12:55:50 PM » |
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The correct brand name registered by Pro-Mark is Hot Rods (along with Thunder Rods, Cool Rods and Lightening Rods). Musician's Friend just added the word sticks at the end of it (who trusts them as an accurate source, anyway). Hot Sticks, however, is a company that was famous for colored drumsticks.
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« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2009, 09:11:48 PM » |
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Would these help a drummer with a 'heavy' touch play softer?
And how do the drummers like playing them?
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« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2009, 01:06:59 AM » |
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I love the Thunder Rods and the Lightning Rods but not so much the Hot Rods. To each their own really... As for these sticks helping "heavy" handed players? Just learn how to play soft.   |
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« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2009, 08:58:50 PM » |
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Would these help a drummer with a 'heavy' touch play softer?
And how do the drummers like playing them?
As Fret stated, they just need to play softer. I like Hot Rods for soft music..jazzy feel. In my opinion, if the heavy-handed drummers use them, they will not sound as loud even if they still hit hard. You could aslo have someone stand behind the drummers and say "shhhh" if they start playing too loud.....LOL. |
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« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2009, 01:02:25 PM » |
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I agree with robdown. I mean u could use shields and all but i would prefer someone to learn how to play dynamically softer and be efficient as if you were playin' loud. And as far as hot rods, i love them. I never tried the other rods yet. Fret what are the differences and likes and dislikes between them in ur opinion?
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« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2009, 03:30:09 PM » |
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So I am thinking about placing a mic near the drums. Hooking the mic up to something that shows how loud it is. And then when it reaches a certain point (such as if the mixer is clipping) the drummer will receive a mild shock telling them to play softer
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« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2009, 09:09:07 PM » |
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wouldn't recomend doing that infact would probly make matters worse
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« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2009, 12:25:27 AM » |
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So I am thinking about placing a mic near the drums. Hooking the mic up to something that shows how loud it is. And then when it reaches a certain point (such as if the mixer is clipping) the drummer will receive a mild shock telling them to play softer
I hope your drummer is reading this thread. Mild shock!? Are you crazy!!! |
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robdown
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« Reply #18 on: November 25, 2009, 08:36:11 AM » |
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So I am thinking about placing a mic near the drums. Hooking the mic up to something that shows how loud it is. And then when it reaches a certain point (such as if the mixer is clipping) the drummer will receive a mild shock telling them to play softer
lol @ "mild" shock |
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« Reply #19 on: November 25, 2009, 09:47:54 AM » |
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So I am thinking about placing a mic near the drums. Hooking the mic up to something that shows how loud it is. And then when it reaches a certain point (such as if the mixer is clipping) the drummer will receive a mild shock telling them to play softer
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