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Re: Does Vick Deserve this Award?
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2009, 04:57:07 PM »
Umm I could understand if he overcame something that was not his fault or of his doing but (unless you argue from a unfairness of justice system perspective) he chose to do the dogs stuff. Why should an award be giving to him for overcoming an adversity he caused on himself?

Personally I don't think so but if the justice system is unfair in this country....maybe. I do believe our justice system is unfair however I'm not totally sure if that contributed to his situation totally.

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Re: Does Vick Deserve this Award?
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2009, 07:28:56 PM »
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Re: Does Vick Deserve this Award?
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2009, 07:40:42 PM »
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Re: Does Vick Deserve this Award?
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2009, 10:31:09 PM »
Well his teammates thought he deserved it & thats really all that matters. Because, they knew that what he went through, definetly didn't fit the crime. They turned this brothas life upside down over some dogs, when you have people, destroying human life everyday & it's all legal. Vick walked into prison with his head held high & he walked out the same. You see, they tried to break him, but he wouldn't let them. So for that alone, he deserves this award.

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Re: Does Vick Deserve this Award?
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2009, 11:07:33 PM »
Well his teammates thought he deserved it & thats really all that matters. Because, they knew that what he went through, definetly didn't fit the crime. They turned this brothas life upside down over some dogs, when you have people, destroying human life everyday & it's all legal. Vick walked into prison with his head held high & he walked out the same. You see, they tried to break him, but he wouldn't let them. So for that alone, he deserves this award.

He deserves credit for taking the punishment that was dealt to him like a man.  No more, no less.  One day he may earn this particular reward, but based on the intent of the award, he hasn't earned it yet.

Just like, for example, Pres. Obama has not yet earned the Nobel PEACE Prize.  Sure, he is a great man and a great example.  But he has not yet DONE what one would expect of a PEACE Prize winner.  He has the potential to do it but he hasn't won it.

Same with Vick.  The way he is handling his life since sentencing is admirable.  But as far as overcoming adversity?  That he caused?  C'mon.
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Re: Does Vick Deserve this Award?
« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2009, 07:47:59 AM »
the man fought dogs or financed it whatever of a breed the us government targets and kills themselves, a breed that most homeowner insurance companies wont allow, and a breed that is restricted in about 70% communities across america.'

if his teammates thought he deserved it then why should we question it, we can have our opinions but i just think there are more important things in life to dedicate our time to.

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Re: Does Vick Deserve this Award?
« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2009, 11:13:16 AM »
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if his teammates thought he deserved it then why should we question it, we can have our opinions but i just think there are more important things in life to dedicate our time to.

The question was asked and answered.  It really is no big deal.  If my office mates voted me the most improved swimmer in our office that would be cool, but since I can't swim, it would be a very hollow victory.  

When you look at what the people who initiated the award (not Vick's teammates) intended the award to be for, it does not match up with where Vick is in life.  Don't be mistaken, I am very impressed with how far he's come.  He just doesn't fit the parameters described by this particular award.  Doesn't make him any less of a person.

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Re: Does Vick Deserve this Award?
« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2009, 11:43:09 AM »
Ok Malthumb, you go through what vick went through & see how you come out at the end. Then you might feel a little different about who receives this award. In all actuallity, the award itself means nothing, but what means something is that Vicks teammates thought of him enough, to vote for him. Now, that is the real award.

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Re: Does Vick Deserve this Award?
« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2009, 12:37:43 PM »
Ok Malthumb, you go through what vick went through & see how you come out at the end. Then you might feel a little different about who receives this award.

Couldn't POSSIBLY happen.  I would never do something as stupid as what he did to put himself in the position to begin with.

In all actuallity, the award itself means nothing, but what means something is that Vicks teammates thought of him enough, to vote for him. Now, that is the real award.

Couldn't agree with you more.  That is the true bright spot in this whole thing and proof that he has come a long way.
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Re: Does Vick Deserve this Award?
« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2009, 04:16:01 PM »
He deserves credit for taking the punishment that was dealt to him like a man.  No more, no less.  One day he may earn this particular reward, but based on the intent of the award, he hasn't earned it yet.

Just like, for example, Pres. Obama has not yet earned the Nobel PEACE Prize.  Sure, he is a great man and a great example.  But he has not yet DONE what one would expect of a PEACE Prize winner.  He has the potential to do it but he hasn't won it.

Same with Vick.  The way he is handling his life since sentencing is admirable.  But as far as overcoming adversity?  That he caused?  C'mon.

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the man fought dogs or financed it whatever of a breed the us government targets and kills themselves, a breed that most homeowner insurance companies wont allow, and a breed that is restricted in about 70% communities across america.'

*not personally directed* As far as opinions, I find it interesting that when we talk about sin in the church, we ready to sit ppl down, and slicing and dicing ppl that willingly do wrong, "holiness is a standard", etc.  Yet just because someone is black (lets call it for what it is) and they jack up, we rally and dissect down what they did to make a case for wrongdoing.  Regardless on how you slice it, HE COMMITTED A CRIME.  ALOT OF TIMES KNOWINGLY.  Leave the dogs out of it, and he still willingly did illegal activity.  For the record, I at first was like, there THEY go, and was feeding into the black defense rallying behind him, but just like Tiger and alot of these other cats, when you are operating outside the refuge of God, the enemy can practically do what he wants to jack up your life by your mistakes.  These facts stated dont lessen what he did.  Im not a holier than thou cat, and I dont condemn him in anyway, I actually like watching him play, but we so quick to water down situations we support.  If he was a pastor, ppl would have stones in hand.  Maybe thats just my unbiasedness talking again.   :)

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Re: Does Vick Deserve this Award?
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2009, 04:48:07 PM »
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