2011 NFL Off-season News

[lordluvr]

Sign of things to come? http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-roethlisbergerinvestigation&prov=ap&type=lgns

[Arkhams Finest]

Andy Reid: Team is "evaluating" offers for McNabb.

[Gibby]

Andy Reid: Team is "evaluating" offers for McNabb.

They should trade mcnabb but not vick.  You might as well go with the one with less injuries and more tread on the tires 

[Arkhams Finest]

Seems to me like someone got PAID.

I guess he's learned HIS lesson.    

This is why I believe ROFLisberger should be suspended, even without an indictment.

[sjonathan02]

Seems to me like someone got PAID.

I guess he's learned HIS lesson.    

This is why I believe ROFLisberger should be suspended, even without an indictment.

Absolutely. His off-field behavior is deplorable and Goodell, who claims to want to make an example of cats like Vick, should make a move...at least, 4 games.

[Arkhams Finest]

Absolutely. His off-field behavior is deplorable and Goodell, who claims to want to make an example of cats like Vick, should make a move...at least, 4 games.

Four games sounds about right.  If he was indicted, as much as a whole season would be within reason.

[sjonathan02]

Four games sounds about right.  If he was indicted, as much as a whole season would be within reason.

Indeed.

[lordluvr]

Absolutely. His off-field behavior is deplorable and Goodell, who claims to want to make an example of cats like Vick, should make a move...at least, 4 games.

I would agree, if there were some evidence other than a mere claim- which now isn't much of a claim.  If I were the commissioner, I wouldn't act based solely on suspiscion.

[sjonathan02]

I would agree, if there were some evidence other than a mere claim- which now isn't much of a claim.  If I were the commissioner, I wouldn't act based solely on suspiscion.

I'd agree if this were the first offense.

[Arkhams Finest]

I would agree, if there were some evidence other than a mere claim- which now isn't much of a claim.  If I were the commissioner, I wouldn't act based solely on suspiscion.

I don't think guilt or innocence is Goodell's only concern.  Roethlisberger represents more than himself.  He represents the Steelers and the NFL.  He has a civil claim against him from last year sexual assault, and another accusation this year for sexual assault.  Even if he's innocent, he's put him self in some TERRIBLE situations.

[lordluvr]

I don't think guilt or innocence is Goodell's only concern.  Roethlisberger represents more than himself.  He represents the Steelers and the NFL.  He has a civil claim against him from last year sexual assault, and another accusation this year for sexual assault.  Even if he's innocent, he's put him self in some TERRIBLE situations.

I understand what you're saying.  My problem with taking any action at the moment is that both situations are only claims at the moment.  In the first claim, if I'm not mistaken, he's countersued.  In the second claim, the alleged victim is refusing to cooperate.  I'm not going to speculate about a payoff.  Sure, it's a possibility, but I can't claim a possibility as reality.  So, I think no action by the commissioner is the only action he can take at the moment.  The instant that anything is substantiated, then there's basis for action. 

[mbamoody]

Four games sounds about right.  If he was indicted, as much as a whole season would be within reason.

I say suspend him for the entire season just for being dumb. I live in the Middle GA area and I can tell you there is nothing much to do here. Everything closes up at 10pm and if anything is open after that, it's legs. If he wanted to go out, he should've, went to ATL. Why is a 2-time superbowl winning QB looking for night-life fun in MILLEDGEVILLE, Ga?

[Arkhams Finest]

I understand what you're saying.  My problem with taking any action at the moment is that both situations are only claims at the moment.  In the first claim, if I'm not mistaken, he's countersued.  In the second claim, the alleged victim is refusing to cooperate.  I'm not going to speculate about a payoff.  Sure, it's a possibility, but I can't claim a possibility as reality.  So, I think no action by the commissioner is the only action he can take at the moment.  The instant that anything is substantiated, then there's basis for action. 

I guess we'll have to wait and see what (if anything) he does.

[lordluvr]

I guess we'll have to wait and see what (if anything) he does.

One way or the other, I can't wait for this saga to end.  Being a Steeler fan, the team needs to know how to plan- for a season with or without Big Ben.

[sjonathan02]

I understand what you're saying.  My problem with taking any action at the moment is that both situations are only claims at the moment.  In the first claim, if I'm not mistaken, he's countersued.  In the second claim, the alleged victim is refusing to cooperate.  I'm not going to speculate about a payoff.  Sure, it's a possibility, but I can't claim a possibility as reality.  So, I think no action by the commissioner is the only action he can take at the moment.  The instant that anything is substantiated, then there's basis for action.  

I think you take action for the good of your product, the NFL. There have been too many players actin' like they're above the law when it comes to off-field matters (or, just making poor decisions in general).

Somehow, there needs to be a change; one would prefer it to be an internal change; but, for now, an external one should be a proper motivator.

And if not Goodell, then the team should suspend him. Hey Mike, if you're so concerned about the behavior of your franchise QB then show it. Suspend him.

[lordluvr]

I think you take action for the good of your product, the NFL. There have been too many players actin' like they're above the law when it comes to off-field matters (or, just making poor decisions in general).

Somehow, there needs to be a change; one would prefer it to be an internal change; but, for now, an external one should be a proper motivator.

I definitely feel you, in principle.  I guess my primary concern is for the fact that sometimes, people see opportunities to cash in on someone else's celebrity status.  All it takes is for someone to cry wolf and the celebrity's good name is tarnished, even if there was no wrong-doing on their part.  I'm not saying that Ben is totally innocent at all.  I'm just not rushing to judgement one way or the other.  And, that's why I wouldn't feel that action by the commissioner would be warranted. 

[sjonathan02]

I definitely feel you, in principle.  I guess my primary concern is for the fact that sometimes, people see opportunities to cash in on someone else's celebrity status.  All it takes is for someone to cry wolf and the celebrity's good name is tarnished, even if there was no wrong-doing on their part.  I'm not saying that Ben is totally innocent at all.  I'm just not rushing to judgement one way or the other.  And, that's why I wouldn't feel that action by the commissioner would be warranted. 

If you and I, cats you AREN'T in the league, can see this fact about folks, wouldn't that be even more reason for cats IN the league to make better decisions?

[lordluvr]

If you and I, cats you AREN'T in the league, can see this fact about folks, wouldn't that be even more reason for cats IN the league to make better decisions?

Can't disagree with you there.  But, the fact still remains that these celebrity cats-when you strip the celebrity status- are just regular cats like you and I, subject to the same errors in judgement that you and I are.  Celebrity status doesn't make one smart, unfortunately.

[Arkhams Finest]

Associated Press: Eagles want a top 42 pick for Donovan McNabb.

It looks like he's really on the block.

[lordluvr]

Associated Press: Eagles want a top 42 pick for Donovan McNabb.

It looks like he's really on the block.

Well, not really, considering the price that a potential suitor would have to pay for a thousand year-old veteran with battle scars to boot.