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Re: Since when have LGMers been scarrred...
« Reply #80 on: September 25, 2010, 03:23:00 PM »
This morning I really became convinced that this is a setup.  The gay community is pretty powerful and those that are activists can be quite hateful and aggressive in going after those that openly do not condone the gay lifestyle. Bishop Eddie Long has been known to speak out against this lifestyle and though I'm not a conspiracy buff, I could see them putting a "hit" out to bring him down.  He's a big target.  That would explain why the complaints are so strikingly similar.

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Re: Since when have LGMers been scarrred...
« Reply #81 on: September 25, 2010, 05:40:25 PM »
Not buying that one malthumb, not in this case. Like I said, I was once 17 & 18 & so were all my friends. I coached little league ages 10/12 & 13/15yrs old. I was a youth advocate &  I have mentored many young brothas, just in the neighborhood. Over the past 25yrs, I have dealt with many impressionable young brothas & the 17 & 18 yr old brothas that I've dealt with, would have blew his brains out. Naw, these cats were already walking that gay tight rope. The hunter knows who to hunt.

We were all 17 or 18 at some point.  And if we remember back ACCURATELY, we'll recognize that all teens are not cut from the same cloth.  Go to any high school and you'll see kids ranging from the brash self assured know all I need to know type to the ones  that are so impressionable that they'll believe you if you told them Viet Nam was a suburb of Chicago (witnessed that one firsthand  :-\). And let's not play the "brothas from the hood ain't impressionable" card.  There are so many 17- 18 year old brothas from the hood growing up in families with no strong and/or positive male examples in their lives that it's no wonder many of them are impressionable and accepting of attention from perceived positive male examples.

To your point, some of them may have been "walking that gay tightrope".  I'm just suggesting to you why they may have been walking it.

I am not saying that Bishop Long did it or didn't do it.  Until all the facts come out, only he, God, and his accusers know the truth.  I am, however, not ruling it out.  I also don't consider the similarity of the complaints to be a reason to reject the complaints.  A prosecutor would argue that they are similar because the accused has an established pattern that has been successful and is therefore repeated.

I could argue on the side of "did it" or "didn't do it" all day long.  In each case, it's the absence of facts that strengthen the argument.  Until the facts truly are divulged, we can never say with certainty that we know what did or didn't happen.  We can only state what we want the truth to be.

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Re: Since when have LGMers been scarrred...
« Reply #82 on: September 25, 2010, 05:48:36 PM »
This morning I really became convinced that this is a setup.  The gay community is pretty powerful and those that are activists can be quite hateful and aggressive in going after those that openly do not condone the gay lifestyle. Bishop Eddie Long has been known to speak out against this lifestyle and though I'm not a conspiracy buff, I could see them putting a "hit" out to bring him down.  He's a big target.  That would explain why the complaints are so strikingly similar.

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Re: Since when have LGMers been scarrred...
« Reply #83 on: September 25, 2010, 09:04:41 PM »

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Re: Since when have LGMers been scarrred...
« Reply #84 on: September 25, 2010, 10:30:55 PM »
Roland Martin says Bishop Eddie Long must step down.


Read the article - IMO it's hard for a leader to get "sat down" if there is no authority over them...

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Re: Since when have LGMers been scarrred...
« Reply #85 on: September 25, 2010, 10:47:59 PM »
Roland Martin says Bishop Eddie Long must step down.


OOOOhhhh I thought up a new conspiricay theory. I'm bored sorry.

There may be an influential member/minister who stands to gain quite a bit if Mr. Long is required to sit down. I know it is a stretch, and I no reason to believe that this is actually happening.

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Re: Since when have LGMers been scarrred...
« Reply #86 on: September 25, 2010, 10:59:07 PM »
Roland Martin says Bishop Eddie Long must step down.


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"Long's attorney, Craig Gillen, said his client would speak for the first time on Sunday at 11 a.m. and address the issue before his congregation"


Well it looks like at least the congregation at that church will get the otherside of the answer tomorrow.


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Re: Since when have LGMers been scarrred...
« Reply #87 on: September 25, 2010, 11:01:07 PM »
OOOOhhhh I thought up a new conspiricay theory. I'm bored sorry.

There may be an influential member/minister who stands to gain quite a bit if Mr. Long is required to sit down. I know it is a stretch, and I no reason to believe that this is actually happening.


Lol!  Maybe they should have settled their differences with a praise break instead of a scandal.

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Re: Since when have LGMers been scarrred...
« Reply #88 on: September 25, 2010, 11:07:44 PM »
Well, that WAS rather "animated"   :D

Conspiracy theory #2 - the whole Eddie Long scandal was organized to get people to come to Sunday service and to publicize the ministry (along the lines of 'any press is good press')

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Re: Since when have LGMers been scarrred...
« Reply #89 on: September 25, 2010, 11:13:36 PM »
Read the article - IMO it's hard for a leader to get "sat down" if there is no authority over them...

If he were to do that he would look even more guilty. Anybody gonna be watching his church on streaming faith today?

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Re: Since when have LGMers been scarrred...
« Reply #90 on: September 25, 2010, 11:36:12 PM »
If he were to do that he would look even more guilty. Anybody gonna be watching his church on streaming faith today?


Naw, I will be too busy at church Praising God.

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Re: Since when have LGMers been scarrred...
« Reply #91 on: September 26, 2010, 12:18:35 AM »
Roland Martin says Bishop Eddie Long must step down.

Man Roland Martin needs to SADDOWN and SHET UP!!! Fa'real!!! If I'm innocent, I'm not going to resign for no dawg gone body.  I agree with someone else who said that these guys are choosing to file civil suits against this man. Ok if you were really hurt by this man, wouldn't you wanna see him in jail? Gold diggers get on my last nerve. I saw a report on CNN by this dude Rick Sanchez...you can watch it if you'd like.
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Anywho, listen to the venom that this man speaks with. He has basically already convicted this man without any ounce of proof. This made me so sick that I didn't know what to do. I don't watch Bishop Long like I used to but I still think that this man deserves to be treated with better respect than this. My God!!!!! He acts as if Bishop Long is going to jail and he acts as if those MEN are little helpless kids. Come ON MANE!!!  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Re: Since when have LGMers been scarrred...
« Reply #92 on: September 26, 2010, 01:24:28 AM »
If he were to do that he would look even more guilty. Anybody gonna be watching his church on streaming faith today?

Won't be streaming on Sunday. All cameras will be stopped prior to his convo with the church family, as I think it should be.

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Re: Since when have LGMers been scarrred...
« Reply #93 on: September 26, 2010, 01:26:59 AM »
... but there will be a press conference after that 8 am service.  Format will be open where he doesn't select what questions can be asked.

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Re: Since when have LGMers been scarrred...
« Reply #94 on: September 26, 2010, 01:02:42 PM »
It seems that the facts of the matter could be very easily proved.(less easily disproved)  Or certainly enough smoke(other than the accusations)would be seen upon investigation to justify some sort of conclusion.  As it stands now, I don't see enough to even look sideways at the man.  And there should be enough out there if it is true.  People can accuse you of anything.  Innocent until proven guilty is so important.  It would be so unusual for a man of the bishops age to be a pedophile and have had only one interaction with, or rumour of interactions with male children.  He should be checked out from tip to stern.  The checking should be done by someone who is not in it just for the money.(criminal investigators for mis-use of funds, fraud, pedophilia)  The truth is, he could be innocent.  If he is, it should be made known since he has already been punished by the press.   

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Re: Since when have LGMers been scarrred...
« Reply #95 on: September 26, 2010, 02:45:06 PM »
I was just thinking...they said the pictures that came out were sent to one accuser's phone.  In the pictures Long is taking the pictures of himself with a phone, an iPhone.  An iPhone, an iPad, and some other stuff was stolen from his office.  Maybe the pictures were never sent.  Maybe before returning the items the accuser took some stuff off of the phone and the iPad.

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Re: Since when have LGMers been scarrred...
« Reply #96 on: September 26, 2010, 03:05:03 PM »
Hey, Koda, are there pictures out there showing the bishop in a compromising position or activity?

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Re: Since when have LGMers been scarrred...
« Reply #97 on: September 26, 2010, 04:15:39 PM »
Hey, Koda, are there pictures out there showing the bishop in a compromising position or activity?

No, but I know a lot of people like to look at people's clothing, their interests, or disinterests and say a person is gay or has gay tendencies because they like to wear stuff like the Bishop is seen wearing in those pictures.  I believe they're trying to send that message and make it worse by saying that he sent the pictures to the young men.

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Re: Since when have LGMers been scarrred...
« Reply #98 on: September 26, 2010, 05:54:00 PM »
They are gonna check his phone records, so I'm sure that they will find out wether the photos were sent or not, as well as other info that will be important to this case.

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Re: Since when have LGMers been scarrred...
« Reply #99 on: September 26, 2010, 06:13:51 PM »
OK Fam! I saw the video, blah blah blah and coming from Corporate America and working with attorneys ONE might read what he said as not concrete and firm.

Quite honestly I am saddened just because it will make witnessing harder to gay people and straight people ANYWAY so here is what my "looking at from Corporate America" mind is thinking:

1. Be VERY neutral and vague and it can not later be used against you
2. "I am not a perfect man" Sorry ya'll I did do some freaky stuff
3. "I am not the man they portrayed me to be"- Yes I did some of that stuff but I did not drug up people and I did not FORCE them
4. "I will fight vigorously"- We are gonna try to settle out of court or perhaps I got a little information to get this resolved quietly
5."My attorneys advised me not to specifically address the allegations"- again stay neutral because we are still reviewing evidence submitted and they may have something damaging. Have you told us everything?

Dont know if it is true but I was told in the 2nd service a young man stood up and asked out loud "IS IT TRUE". He was supposedly escorted out. I think that is a legitimate question and any legal team who believes you are innocent WOULD advise you to maintain your innocence. Fighting an allegation is totally different than upholding innocence.


I wanted him to say "I did not do it. I am completely innocent. I have only tried to help people. I am not a perfect man but in this instance I have been on the up and up".  I was looking for something like that.

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