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Re: Which has a greater affect on socialization Class or Race?
« Reply #80 on: May 06, 2011, 01:18:27 PM »
I agree with the part in red. American companies should produce their products in America.


I absolutely agree with you...............................almos t.  The cost of goods sold directly impacts what we the consumer pay.  While it would be great if we could produce all of our products domestically, at the going rate of pay, we end up paying more money out of pocket.   In addition, in order to save costs, businesses would be less inclined to hire more employees.  I guess either way, you can't win because the bottom line is that businesses are going to try and get things done as cheaply as possible and one of the easiest ways to cut expenses is by reducing payroll weather it be by sourcing cheaper labor or a reduction in staff.
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Re: Which has a greater affect on socialization Class or Race?
« Reply #81 on: May 06, 2011, 01:22:51 PM »

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Re: Which has a greater affect on socialization Class or Race?
« Reply #82 on: May 06, 2011, 01:39:22 PM »
My dad and I used to talk about this topic a lot.  But this illustrates the double-edged nature of capitalism.  When it's good it's good, but it can be real beast when it turns on you.  In general, I feel that class has the greater effect on socialism than race because class is transcendent.  Racism will always exist, but ultimately it becomes secondary in light of status.

I, too, agree with the part in bold.

I agree with the part in red. American companies should produce their products in America.

To the part in Blue, I say that anybody making an average salary can make it out of poverty if they live below their means. Thats all I'm saying

As for generalizations, I think its pretty obvious that we can not lump everybody into the same group. Of course there are those who are physically and mentally disabled and unable to work or may have medical bills etc, but most of the rest of us really have no excuse.

I couldn't agree more. All of it. And (@Jonathan, or in reference to what you said), I don't think anyone is saying that all poor people are poor "just because." As U13 pointed out, everyone can't be lumped into the same category. But I am of the belief that most of us who don't have REAL extenuating circumstances, such as debilitating disabilities, are capable of getting out of poverty if we want to badly enough. That's really all I'm saying. We just use too many excuses. Even those of us who aren't poor use too many excuses. I can't go to school because I'm a single parent. I can't go on an interview because I don't have interview clothes. I can't apply for jobs because I don't have transportation. I don't have a babysitter. I don't have a diploma. I have ADD. I have migraines. Blah blah blah... we just make too many excuses and then want to turn around and blame it on big corporations and government. Granted some are poor because that's just their lot, most are poor because they're too lazy to become unpoor.
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Re: Which has a greater affect on socialization Class or Race?
« Reply #83 on: May 09, 2011, 03:03:58 PM »
I'm really late to this thread.  I can't comment on most of what's already been said without beating a dead horse, but at least I can comment on this.  I believe you give too little credit to public transportation.  It's not perfect, but it does help considerably in a city like DC where one has to pay for parking in may areas, or sit in a parking lot AKA the beltway during rush hour. Check with your employer.  I believe you're on his/her schedule.  While you're at it, start praise and worship late this Sunday...well, try that only if you're not on the church's schedule.   My point is, we're on someone's schedule in many facets of our lives.  I can only speak for DC, but the public transit system seems built around accomodating our schedules as much as possible.


dude ... DC gets all the trains :(

US awards $2bn for high-speed rail upgrades

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The projects will boost rail services between Washington DC to Boston, as well as in the mid-west and California.

Florida Governor Rick Scott canceled a high-speed rail project in his state, fearing taxpayers there would have to subsidize the project in the future.
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