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Offline Fenix

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Who do you pray to?
« on: February 02, 2012, 04:55:56 AM »
I am really curious about this. This is a spin-off from TJ's thread on TD Jakes.

When you pray, do you address Jesus directly or do you address God in the name of Jesus?

I sometimes address God directly, Jesus directly, or the Holy Ghost directly. While I believe that there is only ONE God, I have always done this.

However, looking back on the prayers Jesus prayed, and how he instructs us to pray, I see nowhere where he asks us to address him directly. Bible scholars can help me out here. :)
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Re: Who do you pray to?
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2012, 07:38:10 AM »
I pray to the father in Jesus' name.  Jesus said anything you ask the father in my name, I will do it.  Sometimes in my prayer, I do address the Holy Ghost directly, especially for the things the bible specifically ascribes to his "person".  I can't fully explain how God operates, so the best I can do is follow Jesus' directions.
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Re: Who do you pray to?
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2012, 08:06:43 AM »
Matthew 6:9-14

9 “This, then, is how you should pray:

   “‘Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name,
10 your kingdom come,
your will be done,
   on earth as it is in heaven.
11 Give us today our daily bread.
12 And forgive us our debts,
   as we also have forgiven our debtors.
13 And lead us not into temptation,[a]
   but deliver us from the evil one.’

   14 For if you forgive other people when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. 15 But if you do not forgive others their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.
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Re: Who do you pray to?
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2012, 08:10:40 AM »
I believe the 3 are 1 (fully), so I pray to 1 being using all sorts of names ('Master' mostly but I'll also say Jesus a lot, Lord, Father, God, King, Holy Ghost, Ruler, Savior).
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Re: Who do you pray to?
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2012, 08:17:12 AM »
I really believe a lot of Christians unconsciously think of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost as 3 distinct beings. Yet when asked, many Christians will say that there is just one God.

I just find it very interesting how we can reconcile this apparent contradiction in our minds. God really made our minds in an amazing way. :)
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Re: Who do you pray to?
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2012, 08:32:29 AM »
Quote from: nessalynn77 on February 02, 2012, 07:38:10 AM
I pray to the father in Jesus' name.  Jesus said anything you ask the father in my name, I will do it.  Sometimes in my prayer, I do address the Holy Ghost directly, especially for the things the bible specifically ascribes to his "person".  I can't fully explain how God operates, so the best I can do is follow Jesus' directions.

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Re: Who do you pray to?
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2012, 09:56:35 AM »
Ezekiel said he saw him as the wheel in the wheel, John said he saw him in the book of the seven seals... ;D
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Re: Who do you pray to?
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2012, 10:01:39 AM »
I was always taught to pray TO the Father, THROUGH Jesus, BY the Holy Spirit.
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Re: Who do you pray to?
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2012, 11:06:07 AM »
Quote from: nessalynn77 on February 02, 2012, 07:38:10 AM
I pray to the father in Jesus' name.  Jesus said anything you ask the father in my name, I will do it.  Sometimes in my prayer, I do address the Holy Ghost directly, especially for the things the bible specifically ascribes to his "person".  I can't fully explain how God operates, so the best I can do is follow Jesus' directions.

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This also...I pray to God in Jesus' name on every prayer...even if I'm just speaking to him in solitude; However, I have never addressed the Holy Ghost directly...maybe I'm missing what you are saying in the Bible about this, can you expound.
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Re: Who do you pray to?
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2012, 11:08:42 AM »
Quote from: cas10a on February 02, 2012, 11:06:07 AM
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This also...I pray to God in Jesus' name on every prayer...even if I'm just speaking to him in solitude; However, I have never addressed the Holy Ghost directly...maybe I'm missing what you are saying in the Bible about this, can you expound.
Well the scripture tells us that the Holy Ghost is a comforter, a teacher, and a guide.  So if I'm in a situation where I need any of those things, I will ask the Holy Spirit to help me.  It is a prayer because it is a communication with God, I address the Holy Spirit specifically Jesus promised that He would do these things.
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Re: Who do you pray to?
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2012, 11:31:04 AM »
I'm apt at pray to God(Abba :)) through JC.

the HS, being the 'paraclete', I address like my has-all-the-answers 'patna'
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Re: Who do you pray to?
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2012, 11:47:34 AM »
Quote from: nessalynn77 on February 02, 2012, 11:08:42 AM
Well the scripture tells us that the Holy Ghost is a comforter, a teacher, and a guide.  So if I'm in a situation where I need any of those things, I will ask the Holy Spirit to help me.  It is a prayer because it is a communication with God, I address the Holy Spirit specifically Jesus promised that He would do these things.

Understood, never thought of it that way...
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Re: Who do you pray to?
« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2012, 11:53:13 AM »
I just thought of one thing though Nessalyn that I have a question on; if the holy spirit is not the person that answers a prayer, why pray to the holy spirit?  Yes the holy spirit may be all of the things you mentioned, but if the holy spirit is not the one to answer prayers, why pray to the holy spirit?  I'm not being difficult, just trying to get the reasoning because my mom used to do the same also. 
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Re: Who do you pray to?
« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2012, 11:58:33 AM »
I always thought when people say stuff like "help me, Holy Ghost", they are asking God to strengthen them or power them by way of the Holy Spirit. Not by strength, nor by might, but by my spirit...that type of thing.
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Re: Who do you pray to?
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2012, 12:00:41 PM »
I've always prayed "Father God in the name of Jesus". Even though I always acknowledge the Holy Ghost, I dont pray directly to Him. If I'm enlightened with a thought or inspiration I will always say "Thank you Holy Ghost/Spirit".
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Re: Who do you pray to?
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2012, 12:05:21 PM »
Quote from: LaylaMonroe on February 02, 2012, 08:10:40 AM
I believe the 3 are 1 (fully), so I pray to 1 being using all sorts of names ('Master' mostly but I'll also say Jesus a lot, Lord, Father, God, King, Holy Ghost, Ruler, Savior).

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Re: Who do you pray to?
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2012, 12:27:45 PM »
Quote from: Arkhams Finest on February 02, 2012, 12:05:21 PM
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That makes sense, but I still don't get why?  If you pray in Jesus name as the Bible tells us, why all of the rest?  Pray to God in Jesus name, I don't get the rest unless it's just fluff to make a prayer sound good of how many names one can use?  I'm not demeaning what you are saying, I just don't get it and never understood why?
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Re: Who do you pray to?
« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2012, 12:33:45 PM »
Quote from: cas10a on February 02, 2012, 12:27:45 PM
That makes sense, but I still don't get why?  I you pray in Jesus name as the Bible tells us, why of all the rest?  Pray to God in Jesus name, I don't get the rest unless it's just fluff to make a prayer sound good of how many names one can use?  I'm not demeaning what you are saying, I just don't get it and never understood why?

Kinda like what Nessa said, it just depends on what you're praying about.

As I said, I believe there's only ONE GOD and His name is Jesus. So I don't pray to one through the other in the name of another with the help of another... that's not me. I pray to ONE, period. HOWEVER, I recognize His distinct roles and so if I'm praying for civil unrest, I might address Him as the Giver of Peace or Jehovah Shalom or Jehova Rapha or Rophe. If I'm praying for victory, I might call Him King or Jehovah Nissi. If I'm praying He helps me to submit and humble myself, I might call Him Master (actually, I almost always call Him Master). If I'm praying for power, I might call Him Holy Ghost. Either way, I'm still praying to the same ONE GOD, I'm just calling Him by His other names.

Does that make sense? Someone else may be able to explain it more clearly.
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Re: Who do you pray to?
« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2012, 12:34:12 PM »
Quote from: cas10a on February 02, 2012, 12:27:45 PM
That makes sense, but I still don't get why?  If you pray in Jesus name as the Bible tells us, why of all the rest?  Pray to God in Jesus name, I don't get the rest unless it's just fluff to make a prayer sound good of how many names one can use?  I'm not demeaning what you are saying, I just don't get it and never understood why?

I don't think it's fluff, per se, I believe it's just the pray(er) using the MANY names of God during a particular prayer.
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Re: Who do you pray to?
« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2012, 12:41:44 PM »
Ok...that makes sense to me now, I get what you both, SJ and Layla, are saying.  Thank you!...I guess I'm straight to the point and if I'm talking to someone, God included, I talk to him like I talk to everyone else in real life in Jesus name!  I don't know, that's just me, but both of your points make sense now.   
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