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Offline T-Block

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Re: Pastors, Bishops, Apostles, etc. that don't participate in devotion/p&w
« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2012, 11:54:54 AM »
I don't know about yall churches, but my pastors are the first ones to arrive and the last to leave just about every service. They participate in every part of the service there is. They are the only ones I know of who do this.

With that being said, my opinion on this is very biased, so the only comment I will make is it irks the heck out of me seeing leaders not participating, then they get mad when the people don't either. "Get up and give God some praise.." well, excuse me you, were in the back for 45 minutes while we were in her giving God praise. I guess you missed dat huh?
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Re: Pastors, Bishops, Apostles, etc. that don't participate in devotion/p&w
« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2012, 11:55:35 AM »
Quote from: SirTJ on February 24, 2012, 11:43:23 AM
One thing I can say about Bishop Blake is that he's ALWAYS at his post before P&W starts. Even before the scripture and prayer is said. I think that's very stand-up.
Gilbert Patterson was like this too, and he required all of his staff that was going to be on the rostrum to do so as well. 

My Pastor is the same way, if ministers come in after opening prayer without like an unforeseen valid hindrance, they have to participate from the audience instead of sitting behind the pulpit.
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Re: Pastors, Bishops, Apostles, etc. that don't participate in devotion/p&w
« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2012, 11:56:09 AM »
Quote from: nessalynn77 on February 24, 2012, 11:38:14 AM
Are all churches built with the pews facing east and the pulpit facing west?

Our pews face north while the pulpit faces south.
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Re: Pastors, Bishops, Apostles, etc. that don't participate in devotion/p&w
« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2012, 11:58:59 AM »
Quote from: T-Block on February 24, 2012, 11:54:54 AM


With that being said, my opinion on this is very biased, so the only comment I will make is it irks the heck out of me seeing leaders not participating, then they get mad when the people don't either. "Get up and give God some praise.." well, excuse me you, were in the back for 45 minutes while we were in her giving God praise. I guess you missed dat huh?

Lol ! my sentiments exactly.
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Re: Pastors, Bishops, Apostles, etc. that don't participate in devotion/p&w
« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2012, 12:54:39 PM »
Quote from: Arkhams Finest on February 24, 2012, 11:24:22 AM
Interesting first post.

Quote from: sjonathan02 on February 24, 2012, 11:27:32 AM
Not his first post.

Quote from: LaylaMonroe on February 24, 2012, 11:35:02 AM
You meant first discussion thread?

Depends on whether or not you'll buy it.   :P
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Re: Pastors, Bishops, Apostles, etc. that don't participate in devotion/p&w
« Reply #25 on: February 24, 2012, 12:57:06 PM »
Quote from: Arkhams Finest on February 24, 2012, 12:54:39 PM
Depends on whether or not you'll buy it.   :P

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Re: Pastors, Bishops, Apostles, etc. that don't participate in devotion/p&w
« Reply #26 on: February 24, 2012, 01:11:23 PM »
I need a compass.  I have no idea what direction the pews face.
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Re: Pastors, Bishops, Apostles, etc. that don't participate in devotion/p&w
« Reply #27 on: February 24, 2012, 03:30:58 PM »
Quote from: lordluvr on February 24, 2012, 01:11:23 PM
I need a compass.  I have no idea what direction the pews face.
I was trying to figure this out too. I think she means based on what you consider to be the entrance of the church. Some church pulpits now do not have the pulpit at the rear entrance.

@Ness Maybe your church looks bigger when you video tape.
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Re: Pastors, Bishops, Apostles, etc. that don't participate in devotion/p&w
« Reply #28 on: February 24, 2012, 03:50:08 PM »
Quote from: Mysteryman on February 24, 2012, 03:30:58 PM
I was trying to figure this out too. I think she means based on what you consider to be the entrance of the church. Some church pulpits now do not have the pulpit at the rear entrance.

@Ness Maybe your church looks bigger when you video tape.

No, it's not based on the entrance, it's based on direction... like your bedroom might be east-facing or north-facing, your pews are also facing in a certain direction, as is the pulpit... everything faces north, south, east or west.... or some point between.
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Re: Pastors, Bishops, Apostles, etc. that don't participate in devotion/p&w
« Reply #29 on: February 24, 2012, 04:15:09 PM »
Quote from: LaylaMonroe on February 24, 2012, 03:50:08 PM
No, it's not based on the entrance, it's based on direction... like your bedroom might be east-facing or north-facing, your pews are also facing in a certain direction, as is the pulpit... everything faces north, south, east or west.... or some point between.
Right.  Like I know that when sitting inside my church I am facing east, toward where I live (well if I'm on the organ or drums I face South, but that's really not relevant, lol).  The pulpit faces west toward the Sierra Mountains, and I-80 headed into California. 
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Re: Pastors, Bishops, Apostles, etc. that don't participate in devotion/p&w
« Reply #30 on: February 24, 2012, 04:19:22 PM »
I have always been impressed by people who have a good sense of direction. In one of my classes this week we discussed spacial intelligence. Took an assessment which just confirmed that I have NO spacial intelligence. 1.4 on a scale of 5. LOL.
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Re: Pastors, Bishops, Apostles, etc. that don't participate in devotion/p&w
« Reply #31 on: February 24, 2012, 05:23:32 PM »
I do alright if I can keep it landmark relational, lol.
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Re: Pastors, Bishops, Apostles, etc. that don't participate in devotion/p&w
« Reply #32 on: February 24, 2012, 05:24:22 PM »
Quote from: nessalynn77 on February 24, 2012, 10:09:15 AM
Narthex... that's a new one for me.

I went scrolling for a quote from Narthex until I read Layla's post with the definition and then I saw it in a post I sort of skipped over.  Yeah, it's a new one for me too.
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Re: Pastors, Bishops, Apostles, etc. that don't participate in devotion/p&w
« Reply #33 on: February 24, 2012, 05:25:11 PM »
Next time, I'll go to church at sunrise.  Since the sun rises in the east, I'll know where the pews face. 
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Re: Pastors, Bishops, Apostles, etc. that don't participate in devotion/p&w
« Reply #34 on: February 24, 2012, 05:26:54 PM »
Quote from: lordluvr on February 24, 2012, 05:25:11 PM
Next time, I'll go to church at sunrise.  Since the sun rises in the east, I'll know where the pews face. 
BOOM.  There it is. 
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Re: Pastors, Bishops, Apostles, etc. that don't participate in devotion/p&w
« Reply #35 on: February 24, 2012, 05:30:58 PM »
maybe they don't want to be deboed into worship


you know those aggressive worship leaders?



and then (I have this problem) when your in church so much that the cliches get to you

Just imagine how it is for some pastors, you thought musicians never get a break man we ain't got nothing on some pastors. They get tired and then on top of that when it is time for a sermon people get to sleep while they have to talk for 45 minutes.


#excuses
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Re: Pastors, Bishops, Apostles, etc. that don't participate in devotion/p&w
« Reply #36 on: February 24, 2012, 05:31:41 PM »
Quote from: lordluvr on February 24, 2012, 05:25:11 PM
Next time, I'll go to church at sunrise.  Since the sun rises in the east, I'll know where the pews face.

more like south east depending on where you live ... sometimes ...
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Re: Pastors, Bishops, Apostles, etc. that don't participate in devotion/p&w
« Reply #37 on: February 24, 2012, 05:37:39 PM »
Quote from: phbrown on February 24, 2012, 05:30:58 PM
...they have to talk for 45 minutes.

Negative. They can get it done in 10 minutes if they want.
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Re: Pastors, Bishops, Apostles, etc. that don't participate in devotion/p&w
« Reply #38 on: February 24, 2012, 05:46:12 PM »
Quote from: T-Block on February 24, 2012, 05:37:39 PM
Negative. They can get it done in 10 minutes if they want.

agreed .... but thats another thread the point is they (at least 1 person) still normally speak for some amount of time
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Re: Pastors, Bishops, Apostles, etc. that don't participate in devotion/p&w
« Reply #39 on: February 24, 2012, 05:49:36 PM »
@LL, or you could go at sunset. Unless you just like going to church at the crack o' dawn. LOL
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