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Offline HEART-BEAT

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tuning machines
« on: May 10, 2012, 10:22:45 AM »
How do you guys feel about cutting/modifying/enlarging your tuning peg holes to install locking tuners?

reason:

I am looking into the Sperzel trim loks but I have a limited edition 57 american reissue strat and this type of modification will devalue it.  ?/?
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Re: tuning machines
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2012, 12:18:54 PM »
Don't do that; do this.
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Re: tuning machines
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2012, 03:43:18 PM »
Don't do that; do this.


Thank you for this!  Really.  Don't know how I've missed them, but they are exactly what I'm going to use on the replacement neck I'm going to get. 
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Re: tuning machines
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2012, 09:01:54 AM »
Don't do that; do this.


I was looking at those.
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Re: tuning machines
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2012, 09:15:13 AM »
I was looking at those.

Whatever you do, don't start hacking away at the wood to accommodate new tuners unless you plan to:

a) die and be buried with said guitar, thus never selling it (so resale value would be inconsequential)

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b) become a rock-god of some sort so that no matter what you do to the guitar, it will become an extremely valuable collectors piece.

Are you a heavy trem user?
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Re: tuning machines
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2012, 09:48:47 AM »
If the guitar is a production line made product and the locking tuners are of good quality and the install is performed correctly, I would consider the change (even over-boring the holes to accommodate the larger diameter shafts) an upgrade and would doubt that the instrument would be devalued at all.

The fact is that some OEM tuners are weak and installing a good aftermarket set would add value, not take it away. I don't know that this is the case for a MIA '57 reissue. Fact is that I've got locking tuners on one guitar (Godin Solidac) and they were stock on it. Only my ESP has an upgraded set of tuners on it (Gotoh non-locking), but that's because I didn't like the vintage '50s style that came stock on it.
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Re: tuning machines
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2012, 08:06:41 AM »
How do you guys feel about cutting/modifying/enlarging your tuning peg holes to install locking tuners?

reason:

I am looking into the Sperzel trim loks but I have a limited edition 57 american reissue strat and this type of modification will devalue it.  ?/?


I install tuners for a living.

I would suggest the Gotoh locking vintage style if you desire keeping the vintage look AND aren't good at wood working.

On the other hand, I enjoy and use the Sperzel Trim-Lok tuners on several of my own Strats because I know going back to vintage-style tuners is as simple as replacing the original ferrules with conversion bushing ferrules if I choose to go back later.


The warning I would give you is that many individuals and music stores that install Sperzel tuners don't have the right tools to get the correct fit and alignment of Sperzel tuners the FIRST time....and they end up with the tuners centered off a bit to the left or right because of problems correctly placing the "pin" under the Sperzel tuner. Looks a bit like a wobbly fence.   ::)

If you're going to install any of the modern tuners, find someone with this jig to correctly place & install your tuners.





I know it doesn't appear to be rocket science, BUT I see hack-job tuner installs all the time that I have to fix....so take the time and get it done right.   ;)

 
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