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Re: Jericho City of Praise - and the bigger picture
« Reply #40 on: April 20, 2012, 11:15:26 AM »
Really.  Somebody's trying to kindle the wrath of God.  That's some Miriam and Aaron stuff right there.

This.
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Re: Jericho City of Praise - and the bigger picture
« Reply #41 on: April 20, 2012, 11:18:26 AM »
From where did you get this? ?/? :-\  As in, why is it online? ?/? :-\

Lastly, are they going to change their street address as well? ?/? :-\


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Oooh I'm slipping. I'm sorry, I should've included the source.

Apparently, some of his supporters started a website. I came across it when I saw him make reference to it in a video. He was asking them to be careful to represent Christ in everything they say and do, even in the midst of their hurt and anger, etc. He mentioned the website and his own website (I haven't been to his website yet). The website isn't nasty, but there's definitely some stuff that I would have liked to see worded differently. It's not a good look for the BOC. None of this is.
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Re: Jericho City of Praise - and the bigger picture
« Reply #42 on: April 20, 2012, 11:23:44 AM »
Oh and btw, the street address (assuming you're talking about the Bishop Peebles Drive part?) is named after the late Bishop James Peebles, Sr., the founder of the church. He and his wife, Apostle Betty, founded the church, but they are both now deceased. Joel Peebles is the only surviving son after James Jr. and another son, John? passed.
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Re: Jericho City of Praise - and the bigger picture
« Reply #43 on: April 20, 2012, 12:02:55 PM »
I'm reading the Chairman of the Board's deposition. It's really long, so I know no one would want to read it... but in any case, what I can't help but note is this:

1. She was appointed president of the board upon Apostle's death. She was asked something about how much she knew about serving in this position, and she said "I'm learning."

2. Much later, when asked what her personal problem is with Joel Peebles' pastoring, she named 3 things: he needs more mentoring, more training and more organization. (Now this is the man who served under his parents for 30+ years, and was the assistant pastor to his mother). She went on to elaborate on the "organization" piece, saying that she doesn't like all the walking that is done in the pulpit (it appears she was referring to the armorbearers), and that he jokes around too much.

She was given ample opportunity to add more, but she insisted that those are her only problems with him.

3. I'm on the part now where they're talking about filing taxes and whether the offering has decreased since Apostle's passing. This woman testified under oath that she has never seen a financial report of the offerings so she has no idea what they bring in on average each week or month, and that she doesn't know and has never signed any tax filings. This is the chairlady of the board. She doesn't know any of the board members' salaries (mind you, 3 of them are salaried employees of the church - clearly a conflict of interest). Is not aware of any employee evaluation or compensation policies... she basically doesn't know anything about this church at all...



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Also, I read a couple of letters she wrote to Joel, I guess as a reprimand. One of them chastised him for referring to himself as Pastor Joel Peebles on a flyer, when the board has not named him pastor, reminding him that he is the assistant pastor. The letter also corrected him for referring to the church as City of Praise, not Jericho City of Praise.

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Re: Jericho City of Praise - and the bigger picture
« Reply #44 on: April 20, 2012, 01:48:16 PM »
I'm reading the Chairman of the Board's deposition. It's really long, so I know no one would want to read it... but in any case, what I can't help but note is this:

1. She was appointed president of the board upon Apostle's death. She was asked something about how much she knew about serving in this position, and she said "I'm learning."

2. Much later, when asked what her personal problem is with Joel Peebles' pastoring, she named 3 things: he needs more mentoring, more training and more organization. (Now this is the man who served under his parents for 30+ years, and was the assistant pastor to his mother). She went on to elaborate on the "organization" piece, saying that she doesn't like all the walking that is done in the pulpit (it appears she was referring to the armorbearers), and that he jokes around too much.

She was given ample opportunity to add more, but she insisted that those are her only problems with him.

3. I'm on the part now where they're talking about filing taxes and whether the offering has decreased since Apostle's passing. This woman testified under oath that she has never seen a financial report of the offerings so she has no idea what they bring in on average each week or month, and that she doesn't know and has never signed any tax filings. This is the chairlady of the board. She doesn't know any of the board members' salaries (mind you, 3 of them are salaried employees of the church - clearly a conflict of interest). Is not aware of any employee evaluation or compensation policies... she basically doesn't know anything about this church at all...



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Also, I read a couple of letters she wrote to Joel, I guess as a reprimand. One of them chastised him for referring to himself as Pastor Joel Peebles on a flyer, when the board has not named him pastor, reminding him that he is the assistant pastor. The letter also corrected him for referring to the church as City of Praise, not Jericho City of Praise.

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So let me get this straight.  When she was asked what she knew about serving in this position, she states she is learning.  However, Bishop Peebles who served under the Apostle Peebles for 30 years, needs more mentoring...wow.

I am not quick to rush to judgement without the facts, but this seems like a hostile takeover. 

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Re: Jericho City of Praise - and the bigger picture
« Reply #45 on: April 20, 2012, 02:14:14 PM »
well .... based on the research of Lady Layla ... Mr. Peebles should have no problems starting a new church ... because


Proverbs 25:24
New International Version (NIV)
 24 Better to live on a corner of the roof
   than share a house with a quarrelsome wife.


and at City of Jericho ... that lady is the wife that is all

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Re: Jericho City of Praise - and the bigger picture
« Reply #46 on: April 20, 2012, 02:14:28 PM »
There's more. I've literally been reading these depositions all day lolsmh.

So, 3 of the people on this board were the church secretary, the head janitor (or head of maintenance, I think his title was), and finance clerk. The board asserts that Apostle Betty, in her right mind, signed a document making her an employee of the church, reporting to the board. The contract says that she will receive $157k a year (according to the representative for the members, "everybody knows" that Apostle Betty never took home a salary and she "said it many times proudly from the pulpit"). It says that she will remain pastor until she is mentally or physically incapable of pastoring. Now this document was supposedly signed May 28, 2009, right after the new "board" was formed and the old members "resigned."

So we are to believe that this Apostle - the senior and sole pastor and leader of this 10,000 member church and CEO of this multi-million dollar enterprise - willingly signed a contract making her an employee who reports directly to her secretary, finance clerk and maintenance man?

Seriously??? :-\ ?/?  After 40 years of being the head person in charge, why on earth would she want to become an employee on her death bed? What would she do that for???
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Re: Jericho City of Praise - and the bigger picture
« Reply #47 on: April 20, 2012, 02:18:52 PM »
i really dont follow chu'ch politics and all but reading that letter really grieved me.

dang.


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Re: Jericho City of Praise - and the bigger picture
« Reply #48 on: April 20, 2012, 02:23:22 PM »
They also fired the church's attorney (who was on the original Board of Trustees).

At this point, I've heard (read) pretty much everything from both sides. I don't know what the truth is, but I don't like what I see.
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Re: Jericho City of Praise - and the bigger picture
« Reply #49 on: April 20, 2012, 02:31:34 PM »
Sounds like the plot of a Carl Webber book.

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Re: Jericho City of Praise - and the bigger picture
« Reply #50 on: April 20, 2012, 03:01:20 PM »
Sounds like the plot of a Carl Webber book.

It really does.
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Re: Jericho City of Praise - and the bigger picture
« Reply #51 on: April 20, 2012, 03:20:51 PM »
just missing a few needed ingrediants


like a scandal or something

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Re: Jericho City of Praise - and the bigger picture
« Reply #52 on: April 20, 2012, 04:04:08 PM »
just missing a few needed ingrediants


like a scandal or something

Yeah, they need to add some fornicating musicians.

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Re: Jericho City of Praise - and the bigger picture
« Reply #53 on: April 20, 2012, 05:17:48 PM »
This is vicious.  This 'board of directors' or whatever they are have no reason to do what they are doing other than they just want power and money.  I do not believe that this is Spirit lead in any way, shape, or form and I feel badly for pastor Joel.  This church was founded by his father and lead by his mother for many ears.  His brothers preached there.  He is now the sole surviving member of his (nuclear) family and that makes it even that much more sad.  I hope and pray that during this period of injustice that pastor Joel let's Holy Spirit manifest himself through him and that his emotions don't get the best of him.  This may be his greatest opportunity to show Christ in the midst of this turmoil. 
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Re: Jericho City of Praise - and the bigger picture
« Reply #54 on: April 20, 2012, 08:50:17 PM »
Yeah, they need to add some fornicating musicians.

ROFL!!! yep yep thats it!

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Re: Jericho City of Praise - and the bigger picture
« Reply #55 on: April 22, 2012, 06:28:30 PM »
Since being fired and locked out, Joel Peebles held a service at a nearby hotel.  His supporters tweeted that according to the hotel staff, over 3500 people attended the service today.

Tomorrow, I'm going to add some of my thoughts after reading all the depositions. I really need to blog about this. It's a really "sensational" story and certainly very troubling. Unfortunately, it appears to be brought on, at least in part, by the late Apostle. No matter what the truth is (and I suspect we may never really know), there are some lessons pastors and church leaders need to learn from this.
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Re: Jericho City of Praise - and the bigger picture
« Reply #56 on: April 22, 2012, 06:46:37 PM »
Somebody on FB said that the church parking lot was mostly empty at a time when it's usually full.

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Re: Jericho City of Praise - and the bigger picture
« Reply #57 on: April 22, 2012, 06:55:28 PM »
Yeah, if 3500 people were at a hotel nearby, I'm quite sure that parking lot couldn't have been full...

So many sad parts to this story, but to think that they built this assembly from the ground up 40 years ago, and it could all collapse in a matter of months... it's really hard to believe. Part of me was hoping the son is vindicated and that a vast majority of the people follow/support him. But then reality sets in and I realize that if that happens, the already struggling church will probably go belly up... taking the manifestation of the Bishop and Apostle's legacy right along with them. That's really sad.
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Re: Jericho City of Praise - and the bigger picture
« Reply #58 on: April 23, 2012, 08:27:44 AM »
Update:

The split group's website says that according to the hotel, 3500 people were in attendance. The news said 1500. Either way, there were a LOT of people there, and it appears that they didn't miss a beat. I saw dancers, PPT slides on the projector and lots and lots of people.

And the parking lot DID appear to be pretty empty.

(The video shows clips of the service).

http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/local/congregants-follow-fired-minister-042212#83288456-1
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Re: Jericho City of Praise - and the bigger picture
« Reply #59 on: April 23, 2012, 08:40:26 AM »
I can't help but appreciate the fact that the letter was crumpled up, and then uncrumpled to be scanned.

This may be irrelevant, but I have to question the wisdom of naming a church "Jericho City". Is there something about the Biblical city of Jericho that I don't know? I didn't know the city of Jericho was associated with Godliness and praise. I thought it wasn't supposed to even be rebuilt after the walls came down.

Anyway, this is really sad. Politics... smh

It doesn't look like it was crumpled up at all, to me. :-\

As for the name of the church, it was Jericho Baptist Church and then changed to Jericho/City of Praise. I don't think the city of Jericho was necessarily associated with Godliness, but I don't think that disqualifies it as the name of the church since there's more to the city than that. But you still have a good point. I guess... Idk. There are churches named Canaan, too. *shrug*
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