Chik Filet vs Chi,Boston,San Fran + more

[sjonathan02]

UGH, i am soooooo tired of this foolishness.

So a dude cant have the belief without being castigated? Why does "I don't agree" turn into "hate"?

THis chess game is getting reeeeal interesting.

I have no idea how people arrive at that conclusion. 

[blyempowered]

UGH, i am soooooo tired of this foolishness.

So a dude cant have the belief without being castigated? Why does "I don't agree" turn into "hate"?

THis chess game is getting reeeeal interesting.

Because in their view (and others) there is no such thing as "agreeing" or "disagreeing" with a lifestyle. In their view everyone should be able to live whatever life they choose and therefore it is hate to them if you say that one lifestyle is superior over another.

I don't fully agree with this (as I'm going to write about before going to bed).

[LaylaMonroe]

I have an idea...

I think that because a lot of people who say "I don't agree" also say "I hate..." or "You're nasty, demonic, hell-bound, etc." many homosexuals will equate that with hatred. This, I think, is especially true of those who don't know the Lord and don't understand where the sentiment is coming from. Also, some well-meaning folks don't really know how to season the truth with love, so they will say something like "I don't agree" but it will come out as "I hate gays" (like my bff... we were up until 3:00 a.m. Sunday morning talking about this... as much as she loves everybody and loves the Lord, her feelings toward gays is really borderline hatred - and I think if not for the God factor, it WOULD be hatred).

With those kinds of experiences, I think I can figure out how/why some radical gay people might misinterpret "I don't believe in...." as "I hate."

It's not very dissimilar to how some blacks would take it when white people say stuff like "I don't have anything against black people, I just don't believe the races should mix" or "I don't have a problem with the blacks, I just believe they should stay in their neighborhoods and go to separate schools and let us have ours." (Not comparing the issues, comparing how people receive such comments and why they take it differently from how the person may have meant it).

For the record, it's not all gays who think like that. My Twitter TL was full of gay church folks posting their Chick-fil-a pics in support of Dan Cathy.

[Mysteryman]

It's packed. There are like 15 people working up front. Line is put each door. Every table taken. I may leave or just get an ice cream cone.

[under13]

I have an idea...

I think that because a lot of people who say "I don't agree" also say "I hate..." or "You're nasty, demonic, hell-bound, etc." many homosexuals will equate that with hatred. This, I think, is especially true of those who don't know the Lord and don't understand where the sentiment is coming from. Also, some well-meaning folks don't really know how to season the truth with love, so they will say something like "I don't agree" but it will come out as "I hate gays" (like my bff... we were up until 3:00 a.m. Sunday morning talking about this... as much as she loves everybody and loves the Lord, her feelings toward gays is really borderline hatred - and I think if not for the God factor, it WOULD be hatred).

With those kinds of experiences, I think I can figure out how/why some radical gay people might misinterpret "I don't believe in...." as "I hate."

It's not very dissimilar to how some blacks would take it when white people say stuff like "I don't have anything against black people, I just don't believe the races should mix" or "I don't have a problem with the blacks, I just believe they should stay in their neighborhoods and go to separate schools and let us have ours." (Not comparing the issues, comparing how people receive such comments and why they take it differently from how the person may have meant it).

For the record, it's not all gays who think like that. My Twitter TL was full of gay church folks posting their Chick-fil-a pics in support of Dan Cathy.

Anytime someone talks like that they automatically sound more racist.

[malthumb]

Soooooo glad there is not a Chik-Fil-A in the Detroit area.  I would not want to deal with the spectacle.  Here's my take on the whole situation......<get your rocks ready>......

Owner of CFA says something stupid.
Mayors of several large cities respond by saying something even more stupid.

Crowds of well meaning people flood the CFA stores in support of the least stupid statement amongst a sea of stupid statements.

The whole thing is, IMHO.........stupid.

[LaylaMonroe]

Soooooo glad there is not a Chik-Fil-A in the Detroit area.  I would not want to deal with the spectacle.  Here's my take on the whole situation......<get your rocks ready>......

Owner of CFA says something stupid.
Mayors of several large cities respond by saying something even more stupid.

Crowds of well meaning people flood the CFA stores in support of the least stupid statement amongst a sea of stupid statements.

The whole thing is, IMHO.........stupid.

Wait what did Dan Cathy say that was stupid?

[under13]

Wait what did Dan Cathy say that was stupid?

[LaylaMonroe]

From what I read, Dan Cathy was being interviewed by a Christian magazine or network or something. Here's a quote from the article (the bold is the relevant part, the rest is just for context):

The company invests in Christian growth and ministry through its WinShape Foundation (WinShape.com). The name comes from the idea of shaping people to be winners.

It began as a college scholarship and expanded to a foster care program, an international ministry, and a conference and retreat center modeled after the Billy Graham Training Center at the Cove.

"That morphed into a marriage program in conjunction with national marriage ministries," Cathy added.

Some have opposed the company's support of the traditional family. "Well, guilty as charged," said Cathy when asked about the company's position.

"We are very much supportive of the family -- the biblical definition of the family unit. We are a family-owned business, a family-led business, and we are married to our first wives. We give God thanks for that.

"We operate as a family business ... our restaurants are typically led by families; some are single. We want to do anything we possibly can to strengthen families. We are very much committed to that," Cathy emphasized.

"We intend to stay the course," he said. "We know that it might not be popular with everyone, but thank the Lord, we live in a country where we can share our values and operate on biblical principles."



He wasn't making a political statement or being an activist or anything. He was asked a question, he answered. And I thought it was a fair and honest answer that wasn't disrespectful to anyone. *shrug*

[LaylaMonroe]

Oh, and the source: http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?id=38271

[SirTJ]

Well, I couldn't resist. Currently sitting in line for a milkshake or two (still need a break from the chicken).

[blyempowered]

From what I read, Dan Cathy was being interviewed by a Christian magazine or network or something. Here's a quote from the article (the bold is the relevant part, the rest is just for context):

The company invests in Christian growth and ministry through its WinShape Foundation (WinShape.com). The name comes from the idea of shaping people to be winners.

It began as a college scholarship and expanded to a foster care program, an international ministry, and a conference and retreat center modeled after the Billy Graham Training Center at the Cove.

"That morphed into a marriage program in conjunction with national marriage ministries," Cathy added.

Some have opposed the company's support of the traditional family. "Well, guilty as charged," said Cathy when asked about the company's position.

"We are very much supportive of the family -- the biblical definition of the family unit. We are a family-owned business, a family-led business, and we are married to our first wives. We give God thanks for that.

"We operate as a family business ... our restaurants are typically led by families; some are single. We want to do anything we possibly can to strengthen families. We are very much committed to that," Cathy emphasized.

"We intend to stay the course," he said. "We know that it might not be popular with everyone, but thank the Lord, we live in a country where we can share our values and operate on biblical principles."



He wasn't making a political statement or being an activist or anything. He was asked a question, he answered. And I thought it was a fair and honest answer that wasn't disrespectful to anyone. *shrug*

EXACTLY!! Smh!

[blyempowered]

I have an idea...

I think that because a lot of people who say "I don't agree" also say "I hate..." or "You're nasty, demonic, hell-bound, etc." many homosexuals will equate that with hatred. This, I think, is especially true of those who don't know the Lord and don't understand where the sentiment is coming from. Also, some well-meaning folks don't really know how to season the truth with love, so they will say something like "I don't agree" but it will come out as "I hate gays" (like my bff... we were up until 3:00 a.m. Sunday morning talking about this... as much as she loves everybody and loves the Lord, her feelings toward gays is really borderline hatred - and I think if not for the God factor, it WOULD be hatred).

With those kinds of experiences, I think I can figure out how/why some radical gay people might misinterpret "I don't believe in...." as "I hate."

It's not very dissimilar to how some blacks would take it when white people say stuff like "I don't have anything against black people, I just don't believe the races should mix" or "I don't have a problem with the blacks, I just believe they should stay in their neighborhoods and go to separate schools and let us have ours." (Not comparing the issues, comparing how people receive such comments and why they take it differently from how the person may have meant it).

For the record, it's not all gays who think like that. My Twitter TL was full of gay church folks posting their Chick-fil-a pics in support of Dan Cathy.

That's exactly what a pastor was arguing on twitter earlier today. Good points!

[under13]

Like I alluded to before, his views are the exact opposite of the views that the government/media has been pushing on us for the past half a century. So, there should be little surprise that government officials and the media are fighting against his message and company.

[SirTJ]

I can tell Dan Cathy is a man of God, because the anointing is ALL OVER this peach milkshake.

[dingster1]

I had to leave my chik fil a today. Line was around the parking lot!!!

[malthumb]

Wait what did Dan Cathy say that was stupid?

Actually, I stand corrected.  I went back to the "source" for the Dan Cathy quote that I thought was stupid and he clarified that what he told me was what was implied by what Cathy said, not what he actually said.  I do understand how my source came to the implication,  but fact of the matter is you can't hold someone responsible for what others imply.  The implication was that he would "fire employees he believed engaged in homosexual activity" when what he said was he would fire employees who "had been sinful".  Still not the smartest statement, because you can't go around firing people who are doing things that are legal but do not fit your value set.  But it did not directly state that he would fire people he thought were engaged in homosexual activity.  That would be like a Jewish business owner firing people who eat pork.  It's not illegal, no matter how much the business owner doesn't like the fact they do.

His argument is that Cathy equates homosexuality with sin.......said he would fire employees who had been sinful.....and therefore Implied that he would fire homosexual employees. That would be stupid.

[LaylaMonroe]

I didn't know he said that. Where's the source??

[malthumb]

I didn't know he said that. Where's the source??

Back at ya tomorrow when I have a chance to talk to my source again.  Someone in my office.  He showed it to me on his cell phone, but I didn't recognize the news source.

[LaylaMonroe]

Ok. In the meantime, I'll see if Google can find anything on it.