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Gospel Instruments => General Music Hangout => Topic started by: sacred-composer on July 23, 2005, 10:34:36 AM
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Theoretical brainiacs can you tell me the same of this scale:
C D E F G# A B C
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Hi,
I not sure if you were asking for the same or the name of this scale. If your asking for the name of the scale, then I would have to say
What is the augmented for $500
God Bless You,
jayzee
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Good answer however you will have 2 to see the moderator about the $500 LOL!!! :lol:
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Wrong, 8O I was just throwing that out there for you. The C Augmented scale is actually
C D# E G Ab B
C D E F G# A C is just the C major scale with a #5.
Now here is one for you. I'll give you a hint it is a very common one used but because of the key I have written it in will throw alot of key players that don't know all of their scales.... have fun...
B D E F Gb A B = what scale?
God Bless,
jayzee
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Wrong, 8O I was just throwing that out there for you. The C Augmented scale is actually
C D# E G G# B
C D E F G# A C is just the C major scale with a #5.
Now here is one for you. I'll give you a hint it is a very common one used but because of the key I have written it in will throw alot of key players that don't know all of their scales.... have fun...
B D E F Gb A B = what scale?
God Bless,
jayzee
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This scale looks like a b blues scale. Although the Gb makes it look wrong.
Saxman1
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O'!!!!!!!! I just got schooled. Now heres somebody that know their theory and scales!!!! Praise God for brothers and sisters that put in the long hours to studying this important material.
God Bless,
jayzee
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Is it a C scale with an accidental? I'm a beginner on the aspect of theory.
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Is it a C scale with an accidental? I'm a beginner on the aspect of theory.
OK I think it's time for me to just wathc this area and not speak :lol:
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JayZee wouldn't an augmented scale have the tonic as augmented chord or are there certain permeters that I may not be aware of?
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Think of it this way
Scale Degrees Conventional Naming
Each note of the scale or scale degree has a conventional name. The most important scale degree is the tonic; the second most important is the dominant. The names of the other scale degrees reflect their relationship to the tonic or dominant.
I: Tonic
ii: Supertonic
iii: Mediant
IV: Subdominant
V: Dominant
vi: Submediant
viio: Subtonic or Leading Tone
Or refer to music theory at www.gospelmusictrain.com/home.php
Hope that helps.....
God Bless You All,
jayzee
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Now with that being said, we know that the C Augmented scale is
C=1 D#=2 E=3 G=4 G#=5 B=6 . Lets build our basic triad which would now be an augmented triad.
Chord-tones = R., 3., #5.,
Chord symbols= C+5, C+, C(#5)
Augmented Triad=C E G#
God Bless You,
jayzee
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I wonder what the name of this scale should be using the proper terminology of the structure for scales. I would speculate that it maybe a variation of an arabian type of scale. But if anyone out there has seen this scale before let us know.
Jayzee Thanks for the info.
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this scale is a mixture of 2 possible scales. The A harmonic minor, or it can be a C harmonic minor with a perfect 3rd. Which would make this what we call in Theory an Exotic scale. Possible options, some form of a persian, or Middle eastern scale( Arabic, Etc..) There is no correct terminology for ther scale because of the possible make up of it derived from 2 possible scales. Thats what make it Exotic. This is a trick question and technically, Cant be answered with just one possible choice. another possible option for the scale is a Cmajor scale with a raised 5th! so you have 3 possible scales you could use to derive it from. Anyway this is a scale theory that is soo simple, if you dont look at it from a simple point of view you make it harder than what it is. But you have to know theory. I have masters in music so this comes easy for me. But everything in music contrary to popular belief dont have names. If you know anything about modes of the scales, then you know that there are modes that have no names they are just listed as modes1,2,3,4 of the scales especially when you get up into the exotic types, (pelogs, persian, Kumio etc..) all exotic types. Music is never ending and always evolving, our music forefathers left the blue print its up to us to explore and branch out to take it further. LEARN YOUR THEORY MUSICIANS!! life with an ear, and theory training the possibilities are limitless.
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Is it the C lydian scale
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It is a C Lydian Scale
C Lydian is fourth mode of G Major scale
G - Major scale G A B C D E F# G
C Lydian C D E F# G A B C (G Major scale starting on 4th)
You would play a CMajor#4 chord but really you're in the key of G.
CE/ABDF# - CMajor#4 chord (nice sounding chord)
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The C Lydian scale =
C=1 D=2 E=3 F#=4 G=5 A=6 B=7
You can find any of the most common scales here...
http://gospelmusictrain.com/resources/piano_chord_chart_viewer.php
God Bless You ,
jayzee
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Another very valuable thing to remember is that this is when your relative fourths come into the picture.
C is the relative fourth of G
God Bless You,
jayzee
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to the last poster, what U are reffering to is a C lydian, that is true, The C Lydian scale =
C=1 D=2 E=3 F#=4 G=5 A=6 B=7
You can find any of the most common scales here...
http://gospelmusictrain.com/resources/piano_chord_chart_viewer.php
God Bless You ,
jayzee
BUT NOT THE SCALE THAT THE POSTER GAVE WHICH IS( C D E F G# A B C) THIS SCALE THAT THE POSTER IS ASKING ABOUT IS NOT A C LYDIAN!
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oops.. my mistake.. ChicagoFlava is right!! Good catch!
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I believe there most be a name for this scale already out there. And reason I believe there is one because it's kind of a mode based on the A harmonic minor scale,
A harmonic minor: A B C D E F G# A
Mystery C scale: C D E F G# A D C :?: 8O :?
Somebody out there got to know the true name of this scale. :idea:
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Wrong, 8O I was just throwing that out there for you. The C Augmented scale is actually
C D# E G Ab B
C D E F G# A C is just the C major scale with a #5.
Now here is one for you. I'll give you a hint it is a very common one used but because of the key I have written it in will throw alot of key players that don't know all of their scales.... have fun...
B D E F Gb A B = what scale?
God Bless,
jayzee
www.gospelmusictrain.com/home.php
Technically, it's the pentatonic minor plus "blue" note, which is a fancy way of saying the blues scale.
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to the last poster, what U are reffering to is a C lydian, that is true, The C Lydian scale =
C=1 D=2 E=3 F#=4 G=5 A=6 B=7
You can find any of the most common scales here...
[url]http://gospelmusictrain.com/resources/piano_chord_chart_viewer.php[/url]
God Bless You ,
jayzee
BUT NOT THE SCALE THAT THE POSTER GAVE WHICH IS( C D E F G# A B C) THIS SCALE THAT THE POSTER IS ASKING ABOUT IS NOT A C LYDIAN!
It is quite obvious that you did not read all of the replies to the first post that will lead you to hear. That would really help you out : )
God Bless You,
jayzee
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I believe there most be a name for this scale already out there. And reason I believe there is one because it's kind of a mode based on the A harmonic minor scale,
A harmonic minor: A B C D E F G# A
Mystery C scale: C D E F G# A D C :?: 8O :?
Somebody out there got to know the true name of this scale. :idea:
You got it. A harmonic minor ascending.
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You got it. A harmonic minor ascending.
I don't think that it is a C harmonic minor. A C harmonic minor would have an Eb in it?
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I don't think that it is a C harmonic minor. A C harmonic minor would have an Eb in it?
Not "c harmonic minor", "A harmonic minor"
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It's a C melodic minor ascending or a C minor Jazz scale depending on who you ask.
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Sorry I wasn't paying Attention to what I was doing.
It's a C melodic minor ascending or a C minor Jazz scale depending on who you ask.
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Not "c harmonic minor", "A harmonic minor"
I'm sorry, I didn't realize what I had written. For some reason I was thinking C harmonic minor. You are right.
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it isn't a c scale at all, it's an a harmonic minor starting on the third degree of the scale.
do i win a bbq? jumbo w/hot sauce.
i want fries w/it. too. and iced tea and peach cobbler.
dj
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I gotta go with SupremeSaltine on this one. It's an A hamonic minor scale, starting and ending on C.
Take: C D E F G# A B C Change to: A B C D E F G# A There you have it!!!
The major scale is derived from the W-W-H-W-W-W-H formula. Example: A B C# D E F# G# A
The minor scale lowers the 3rd, 6th, and 7th scale degrees of the major scale. Example: A B C D E F G A
The harmonic minor scale has the raised 7th degree of the minor scale. Example: A B C D E F G# A
The melodic minor ascending scale has the raise 6th and 7th degrees of the minor scale. Example: A B C D E F# G# A
The melodic minor descending scale lowers the raised 6th and 7th degrees from the ascending scale. Example: A G F E D C B A
Everybody understand the major and minor scales? I hope so!!!