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Gospel Instruments => General Music Hangout => Topic started by: BBoy on September 15, 2005, 05:48:11 PM
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Here is a way of looking at 145 progressions in songs like "Victory Is Mine." In whatever key you want to play the song, keep in mind the 145.
Again, like the post on beginning worship in 1-4, the chords may be in different inversions . . . but they are still 1-4. With this song, the chords may be in different inversions, but they are still 1-4-5.
let's look at this in Eb. In the key of Eb, the 1 chord is Eb, the 4 chord is Ab, and the 5 chord is Bb. So first start with the melody.
G Vic
G tor
G y
F is
Eb mine,
G Vic
G tor
G y
F is
Eb mine,
G Vic
G tor
G y
G to
Ab day
G is
F Mine
Now when we add chords we see the famous 1-4-5 in full view:
LH / RH
1 Eb / Bb Eb G Vic
1 Eb / Bb Eb G tor
1 Eb / Bb Eb G y
5 F / Bb D F is
1 Eb / G Bb Eb mine
1 Eb / Bb Eb G Vic
1 Eb / Bb Eb G tor
1 Eb / Bb Eb G y
5 F / Bb D F is
1 Eb / G Bb Eb mine
1 Eb / Bb Eb G Vic
1 Eb / Bb Eb G tor
1 Eb / Bb Eb G y
1 Eb / Bb Eb G to
4 Ab / C Eb Ab day
1 Eb / Bb Eb G is
5 Bb / Bb D F mine
Now you can pick out the rest of the chords from there. After you have the melody and the chords that supprot the melody, then play around with the left hand, adding dominant sevenths, seconds, sus 4, etc. This is where you make your own arrangement . . . arrange the song so that it is your personal tribute to GOD. You don't have to play it like anyone else . . just bless GOD with it, and it will bless other people. :D :wink:
See what other songs you can arrange using the 1-4-5 progression. Try the same progression in a different key . . . for example, if you played this song in F, the chords would be F (1), Bb (4) and C (5). Practice these for twenty minutes in those two keys (or any other two keys), then go to songs using the 1-4 progression. Practice those for at least twenty minutes, too.
Like the heading says, this is for beginnners. Anyone who wants to add on suggestions, please do so.
Hope this helps someone . . .
Be Blessed :D
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Sweet.
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Thank You for this lesson. This is the second time you have explained and made very clear, through an example, how a particular progression works. The first one was your explanation of "Beginning Praise / Worship in 1-4", which was very helpful.
Have you ever considered hosting or has this site considered adding to the "Message Board" a Beginner Section designed specifically for beginners. Most of us have the same or similar questions. It would be for all areas of instruments.(Piano, Organ, Guitar, Keyboard, etc).
I particularly like how you show the use of the progression by putting the number in front of the chord of the progression you are illustrating.
Thank you. Keep up the good work and keep doing Gods Work through this site.
By the way, have you given any more thought to the 6-3-2-5-1 progression use (I'm told) in most slow songs.
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I forget to say in my previous message that I was thanking BBoy.
Thank you again.
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To make that sound better and still be beginner, instead of the 4 chord, substitute it with a 2 chord:
1 Eb / Bb Eb G Vic
1 Eb / Bb Eb G tor
1 Eb / Bb Eb G y
1 Eb / Bb Eb G to
4 Ab / C Eb Ab day
1 Eb / Bb Eb G is
5 Bb / Bb D F mine
Instead of the 4 chord, eliminate the 4 chord and the following 1 chord and put in the 2 chord: F / A-C-Eb-G (2) So, it looks like this:
1 Eb / Bb Eb G Vic
1 Eb / Bb Eb G tor
1 Eb / Bb Eb G y
1 Eb / Bb Eb G to
2 F / A-C-Eb-G day is
5 Bb / Bb D F mine
Of course, then you should change the progression to 1-2-5 instead of 1-4-5. LOL!!!!
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Now when we add chords we see the famous 1-4-5 in full view:
LH / RH
1 Eb / Bb Eb G Vic
1 Eb / Bb Eb G tor
1 Eb / Bb Eb G y
5 F / Bb D F is
1 Eb / G Bb Eb mine
1 Eb / Bb Eb G Vic
1 Eb / Bb Eb G tor
1 Eb / Bb Eb G y
5 F / Bb D F is
1 Eb / G Bb Eb mine
1 Eb / Bb Eb G Vic
1 Eb / Bb Eb G tor
1 Eb / Bb Eb G y
1 Eb / Bb Eb G to
4 Ab / C Eb Ab day
1 Eb / Bb Eb G is
5 Bb / Bb D F mine
I have been struggling with trying to understand progressions. So, your example was timely for me. What gets me is I see the 5-1 progression and the 1 - 5, even the 1 - 4, but I don't see a 1 - 4 - 5.
I see a 1 - 4 - 1 - 5.
So, as you can see, my understanding a 7 - 3 - 6 - 2 - 5 - 1, would be out of the question.
I feel like my brain has set up a mental block on this concept of progressions. Now, I could have come up with the same RH chords, but never would I have thought in terms of progressions. But, I've been told that understanding progressions, would help with learning new songs quicker, improvising, etc.
So, why didn't we call it the 1 - 4 - 1 - 5?
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U can call it that if u want. Repeating the 1 is redudant. It is called 1-4-5 because those are all the different chords that are being used.
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I'm sorry.
I've been thinking about 1-4-5 progressions in the sense that this would be the exact sequence of chords. So, I've been looking at songs and thinking, I don't see the "famous" 1-4-5, but now I see that its all over the place.
Thank you.
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can i play theses progressions on bass i have been looking for good old standard gospel music that i can work with.
bro gray
denver colorado
Here is a way of looking at 145 progressions in songs like "Victory Is Mine." In whatever key you want to play the song, keep in mind the 145.
Again, like the post on beginning worship in 1-4, the chords may be in different inversions . . . but they are still 1-4. With this song, the chords may be in different inversions, but they are still 1-4-5.
let's look at this in Eb. In the key of Eb, the 1 chord is Eb, the 4 chord is Ab, and the 5 chord is Bb. So first start with the melody.
G Vic
G tor
G y
F is
Eb mine,
G Vic
G tor
G y
F is
Eb mine,
G Vic
G tor
G y
G to
Ab day
G is
F Mine
Now when we add chords we see the famous 1-4-5 in full view:
LH / RH
1 Eb / Bb Eb G Vic
1 Eb / Bb Eb G tor
1 Eb / Bb Eb G y
5 F / Bb D F is
1 Eb / G Bb Eb mine
1 Eb / Bb Eb G Vic
1 Eb / Bb Eb G tor
1 Eb / Bb Eb G y
5 F / Bb D F is
1 Eb / G Bb Eb mine
1 Eb / Bb Eb G Vic
1 Eb / Bb Eb G tor
1 Eb / Bb Eb G y
1 Eb / Bb Eb G to
4 Ab / C Eb Ab day
1 Eb / Bb Eb G is
5 Bb / Bb D F mine
Now you can pick out the rest of the chords from there. After you have the melody and the chords that supprot the melody, then play around with the left hand, adding dominant sevenths, seconds, sus 4, etc. This is where you make your own arrangement . . . arrange the song so that it is your personal tribute to GOD. You don't have to play it like anyone else . . just bless GOD with it, and it will bless other people. :D :wink:
See what other songs you can arrange using the 1-4-5 progression. Try the same progression in a different key . . . for example, if you played this song in F, the chords would be F (1), Bb (4) and C (5). Practice these for twenty minutes in those two keys (or any other two keys), then go to songs using the 1-4 progression. Practice those for at least twenty minutes, too.
Like the heading says, this is for beginnners. Anyone who wants to add on suggestions, please do so.
Hope this helps someone . . .
Be Blessed :D
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blessed!!!! thanks bboy i can help my church get the praise on
bro gray
denver coloradoHere is a way of looking at 145 progressions in songs like "Victory Is Mine." In whatever key you want to play the song, keep in mind the 145.
Again, like the post on beginning worship in 1-4, the chords may be in different inversions . . . but they are still 1-4. With this song, the chords may be in different inversions, but they are still 1-4-5.
let's look at this in Eb. In the key of Eb, the 1 chord is Eb, the 4 chord is Ab, and the 5 chord is Bb. So first start with the melody.
G Vic
G tor
G y
F is
Eb mine,
G Vic
G tor
G y
F is
Eb mine,
G Vic
G tor
G y
G to
Ab day
G is
F Mine
Now when we add chords we see the famous 1-4-5 in full view:
LH / RH
1 Eb / Bb Eb G Vic
1 Eb / Bb Eb G tor
1 Eb / Bb Eb G y
5 F / Bb D F is
1 Eb / G Bb Eb mine
1 Eb / Bb Eb G Vic
1 Eb / Bb Eb G tor
1 Eb / Bb Eb G y
5 F / Bb D F is
1 Eb / G Bb Eb mine
1 Eb / Bb Eb G Vic
1 Eb / Bb Eb G tor
1 Eb / Bb Eb G y
1 Eb / Bb Eb G to
4 Ab / C Eb Ab day
1 Eb / Bb Eb G is
5 Bb / Bb D F mine
Now you can pick out the rest of the chords from there. After you have the melody and the chords that supprot the melody, then play around with the left hand, adding dominant sevenths, seconds, sus 4, etc. This is where you make your own arrangement . . . arrange the song so that it is your personal tribute to GOD. You don't have to play it like anyone else . . just bless GOD with it, and it will bless other people. :D :wink:
See what other songs you can arrange using the 1-4-5 progression. Try the same progression in a different key . . . for example, if you played this song in F, the chords would be F (1), Bb (4) and C (5). Practice these for twenty minutes in those two keys (or any other two keys), then go to songs using the 1-4 progression. Practice those for at least twenty minutes, too.
Like the heading says, this is for beginnners. Anyone who wants to add on suggestions, please do so.
Hope this helps someone . . .
Be Blessed :D
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thanks young man!!! :wink:
bro gray
denver colorado Here is a way of looking at 145 progressions in songs like "Victory Is Mine." In whatever key you want to play the song, keep in mind the 145.
Again, like the post on beginning worship in 1-4, the chords may be in different inversions . . . but they are still 1-4. With this song, the chords may be in different inversions, but they are still 1-4-5.
let's look at this in Eb. In the key of Eb, the 1 chord is Eb, the 4 chord is Ab, and the 5 chord is Bb. So first start with the melody.
G Vic
G tor
G y
F is
Eb mine,
G Vic
G tor
G y
F is
Eb mine,
G Vic
G tor
G y
G to
Ab day
G is
F Mine
Now when we add chords we see the famous 1-4-5 in full view:
LH / RH
1 Eb / Bb Eb G Vic
1 Eb / Bb Eb G tor
1 Eb / Bb Eb G y
5 F / Bb D F is
1 Eb / G Bb Eb mine
1 Eb / Bb Eb G Vic
1 Eb / Bb Eb G tor
1 Eb / Bb Eb G y
5 F / Bb D F is
1 Eb / G Bb Eb mine
1 Eb / Bb Eb G Vic
1 Eb / Bb Eb G tor
1 Eb / Bb Eb G y
1 Eb / Bb Eb G to
4 Ab / C Eb Ab day
1 Eb / Bb Eb G is
5 Bb / Bb D F mine
Now you can pick out the rest of the chords from there. After you have the melody and the chords that supprot the melody, then play around with the left hand, adding dominant sevenths, seconds, sus 4, etc. This is where you make your own arrangement . . . arrange the song so that it is your personal tribute to GOD. You don't have to play it like anyone else . . just bless GOD with it, and it will bless other people. :D :wink:
See what other songs you can arrange using the 1-4-5 progression. Try the same progression in a different key . . . for example, if you played this song in F, the chords would be F (1), Bb (4) and C (5). Practice these for twenty minutes in those two keys (or any other two keys), then go to songs using the 1-4 progression. Practice those for at least twenty minutes, too.
Like the heading says, this is for beginnners. Anyone who wants to add on suggestions, please do so.
Hope this helps someone . . .
Be Blessed :D
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Hey T-Block,
I understand the 2 being the "F" but how did you get the chord? A-C-Eb-G?
I think my problem is figuring out how and what chord to play with the root
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I basically used my ear to get that chord. When all else fails, use your ear.
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I got the whole song chorded out here if anybody needs it: http://www.musicianslearningcenter.com/music/viewtopic.php?t=330
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Just an added note: You can play whatever you want in betw. a progression. You don't have to just stick to the basic chords. Adding flavor = good voicing.
Joy
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I"m a beginner and I just read Victory Is Mine, but what I don't understand is when you add the 1-4-5 do you play Eb/Eb Bb Eb just for Vic? Help!
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I would like to make a correction to my first reply Victory Is Mine on the 1-4-5 chord Eb/Bb Eb G