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Gospel Instruments => Organ Room => Topic started by: thedrummerschoice on September 26, 2005, 02:52:28 PM
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hey guys and girls what are 5 things you hate about playing organ in a service or whenever
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When u play a service and they ask u to play for every choir thats there hahaha, even tho its not ur church
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Lol @ That...I can't stand when another church comes and they don't bring their musicians..BUT they ask you if u can play an A,B & C selection for their choir...smh..I also hate playing at 'SAD' funerals..they want u to play that old slave, underground railroad music...I would rather play something uplifting and happy sounding ...it is a HOMEGOING PEOPLE...they're going to Heaven (i hope) ..I can't stand when my organ has malfunctions ...i.e. The drawbars and footpedals go in and out during service..my C, F and Ab were recently out ...smh
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when ppl say that u playin 2 loud n u really cant hear the organ
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this dude said sad underground slave music waaaahahahhahahahahaha
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I dont play organ but I play the keyboard. The one thing I hate in a church service is when the praise team tells me to play the song as they are getting up. Sometimes they already be up but testimonies are being told (testimonies happen rarely at our church). I go ahead and play the song but the people be about to shout. About 2 min later they start shouting and I start playing the shout. They get mad at me and ask me why I stopped playing the song!!! I was like what the!!!!
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..I can't stand when my organ has malfunctions ...i.e. The drawbars and footpedals go in and out during service..my C, F and Ab were recently out ...smh
Ab WENT OUT!!!! OMG!!! THAT MEANS THE ORGAN WAS ALMOST UNUSABLE!
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I hate it when I'm trying to find the key a singer is singing in and once you find it they(singer) go off into wonderland. After service they tell you that you can really play :lol: :lol: :roll:
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I hate it when I'm trying to find the key a singer is singing in and once you find it they(singer) go off into wonderland. After service they tell you that you can really play :lol: :lol: :roll:
We had that happen alot.What make me mad about that because before service we go over the song to try find the key but still the person singing in different key.i think that is very funny.
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yo C3killer i feel ur pain i can't tell u how many times it's the end of the service and there doing announcements or something and the said the organ is too loud but the pedal is up all the way.
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1. visiting a church and playing something other than a hammond or diversi
2. a visiting church doesnt bring musicians, and you dont know their songs, and everybody looks at you like you suck.
3. having to sing harmony at the same time :cry:
4. Like someone welse said, when someone starts off a song, and u find them in F...then once u find them, they go to A?? How does that happen?! well it happened to me 2 weeks ago
5. Other than that, i love playing
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I really hate it when I'm playing a song in a certian key and my fellow musician starts playing it along with me but in the wrong key. To make matters worse, his keyboard sits far away from me and when I'm trying to tell him that he's playing in the wrong key, he can't read my lips. He's still a little tone-death.
I also hate it when I'm playing some soft meditation chords at prayer time (just before the service) and one of my fellow musicians come in late and joins in with me, but cranks up his volume. And all the while, he keeps cutting those sneaky eyes over at me, because he knows exactly what he's doing. We must be sensitive to the spirit and know when to play soft or loud! Sometimes we travel a rough road as musicians!
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I remember one time the praise team was doing praise and worship and they asked me did I know this old hymn I was like no. I told them dont do it, but anyway she did it (very stubborn and acts like she owns us). She went to like 8 different keys on that song. She was so embarrassed because the rest of the praise team couldnt find what key she was in either she just sang by herself that night and she was cracking up and everything everybody just stared at her and was like OH MY GOD!!!
This passed Sunday we were in a highhhhhhhh praise so they told me to play I Love You Lord ( And I lift My Voice). I started playing like 2 min before they came in to keep the people in their worship trans while the praise team was pumping and primeing. So this same lady from the story above comes in, she came in brought the tempo down 2x and brought song all the way down I was like she really needs to start counting!!! I was so pissed. I know she heard me playing that song and she just come in the middle of it and mess the song up like that. She did it on purpose because she looked at me when she did it. No matter what song, what key, or how you playing or ,what tempo you playing at she will mess you up in the middle of the song just to have it her way.
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1.) When the bass pedals stick!
2.) When the leslie won't come on or go off!!
3.) When you are drowned out by everything else!!!
4.) When you pick a song to play for offering and some older person starts singing some thing really old or traditional!!!!
5.) Some body starts signing a song they made up that can't sing!!!!!
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1.) When the bass pedals stick!
2.) When the leslie won't come on or go off!!
3.) When you are drowned out by everything else!!!
4.) When you pick a song to play for offering and some older person starts singing some thing really old or traditional!!!!
5.) Some body starts signing a song they made up that can't sing!!!!!
LOL....i thought i was the only one with number 4, even when the pastor says ON THE MIC, "musicians play something for us."
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OR WHAT ABOUT WHEN YOUR AT A GUEST CHURCH AND THE HOUSE MUSICIAN ASKS YOU TO PLAY FOR THE WHOLE SERVICE INCLUDING HIS CHOIR . OR WHEN A CHURCH COMES TO YOUR HOME CHURCH AND THEIR MUSICIANS ASKS YOU TO PLAY FOR HIS CHOIR.
HOLLAS
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OR WHAT ABOUT WHEN YOUR AT A GUEST CHURCH AND THE HOUSE MUSICIAN ASKS YOU TO PLAY FOR THE WHOLE SERVICE INCLUDING HIS CHOIR . OR WHEN A CHURCH COMES TO YOUR HOME CHURCH AND THEIR MUSICIANS ASKS YOU TO PLAY FOR HIS CHOIR.
8O 8O
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I HATE IT WHEN THE PEDAL GETS STUCK (ESPECIALLY Ab OR Bb..MY F# JUST DIED SUNDAY *R.I.P*)
I HATE IT WHEN MUSICIANS PLAY ON YOUR ORGAN LIKE THERE PLAYIN THA DRUMS...( THIS ONE GUY WAS PLAYIN WITH HIS ELBOWS UP AND DOWN THA BOARD, SNATCHIN OUT DRAWBARS REALLY HARD, POUNDIN ON THA PEDALS WITH BOTH FEET, SLAPPIN THA VIBRATO TREMOLE, AND HITTIN THA START SWITCH LIKE IT WAS A PITCH SWITCH ON A KEYBOARD) THEN HE TOLD ME THAT I HAVE A NICE ORGAN BUT NEEDS A LIL WORK DONE ON IT..... 8O
WHEN SOMEONE SINGS A SOLO AND SAYS," PUT ME IN F#,,,"F" AS IN FRANK ..AND THEY START IN Ab ..AND THEN THEY STOP AND SAY "PUT ME IN Ab THAT WAS A LIL TO LOW FOR ME"... 8O
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I HATE IT WHEN MUSICIANS PLAY ON YOUR ORGAN LIKE THERE PLAYIN THA DRUMS...( THIS ONE GUY WAS PLAYIN WITH HIS ELBOWS UP AND DOWN THA BOARD, SNATCHIN OUT DRAWBARS REALLY HARD, POUNDIN ON THA PEDALS WITH BOTH FEET, SLAPPIN THA VIBRATO TREMOLE, AND HITTIN THA START SWITCH LIKE IT WAS A PITCH SWITCH ON A KEYBOARD) THEN HE TOLD ME THAT I HAVE A NICE ORGAN BUT NEEDS A LIL WORK DONE ON IT..... 8O
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I've had this experience and after a while the organ was raggedy from having been beat up so bad. Pedals loose, pedals and notes not playing, etc. Why do they feel they have to play it so rough? :? Maybe they just get caught up in the moment.
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1. When a guest church comes and doesn't bring their organist and the preacher changes keys a lot.
2. When wants to play a song with me and doesn't know it (that person is always playing the loudest making us all look bad).
3. When some else messes up and tries to blame me.
4. When some gets upset with me because I don't know every song they ever heard on the radio.
5. When some one sings a song and doesn't know or when I'm singing or playing a song and someone get in the mic singing all loud a bunch of wrong words and melodies (Brown said sing with me if you know it and know it when you sing with me).
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I LUV playing the organ in church and I wouldn't trade it 4 nuttin' else in this whole wide world.
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1.Broken Drawbars
2.Malfunctioning pedals
broken leslie switch
3.When someone who does'nt play organ get on and pull out all the drawbars and act like they played it.
I'll come back with 2 more.
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1. Broken drawbars
2. When the bass pedals get stuck while u're playin
3. Broken leslie switch ( one sunday evenin the whole switch fell on the floor when i switched from fast to slow.)
4. People switchin keys in the middle of a song.
5. Playin with a drummer who cant keep the right beat.
**Other than that its a pleasure and joy to play in the service every sunday,
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hey twinkieclark fan the reason why it fell is because of Aqurlara Black came to florenec and ripped up the organ and then left, then you had Ronald Richardson who also played really good on a 3rd Sunday service (womens afternoon service) then you had Junior , then Elder william Smith, Man that organ has been through it all
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Just gotta say I love this thread. Some of the things you all say are so true. The only thing I've experienced that really gets to me is when someone tells me I'm too loud like during talking moments or praying moments in a service.
When I first started playing the organ, like I'd only been playing about 6 months, we had just learned "I've, I've got a praise, I've got a praise, and I gotta get it out, I've got a praise" and we sang it for a youth service. Right in the middle of the song, the keyboard player yells and points downward "TURN IT DOWN!! :x"....I could barely hear myself at the volume I was playing because he was so loud, plus I got drums right next to me. So I did and I couldn't hear a thing.
A couple of years later, another keyboard player and I were playing for the service and during a time when everyone was praying and being sensitive to the spirit, I was playing an average volume I thought...not too loud, but not too soft. And she snaps her fingers at me and gives me this look and whispers turn it down.
Then another time, not too long ago, at the beginning of the service right after we finished the first song, the minister leading the service is talking and all the musicians are playing kinda soft. I thought I was playing soft enough, but my music director says "hold it for a minute", meaning, you're too loud, play softer.
It just irks me like nothing when people try to tell me how loud/soft to play just because I'm the youngest musician there. Then one Sunday's when the pastor's wife plays, sometimes she'll play kind loud and no one says anything to her. Other than those times, I really enjoy playing the organ. I get quite a bit of satisfaction hearing myself play and listening to that leslie sing. :D
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oh yeah and you cant diss the drummer i started this thing so you cant diss anydrummers or imma have to kill ya hahahaha cuz man o man i play both so i know both sides imma throw in a one for all your organist!!!!
drummers keep time not you!!!!
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1 - Stuck Pedals
2 - Leslie won't change gears
3 - People that want center stage during shouts (they wait until everyone else finishes and then shouts with their eyes open)
4 - Directors who forget that they have musicians and start mouthing directions to the choir and wonder why we don't make transitions with them.
5 - Drummers with bad timing (sorry guys, but it's a pet peeve). :oops:
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oh yeah and you cant diss the drummer i started this thing so you cant diss anydrummers or imma have to kill ya hahahaha cuz man o man i play both so i know both sides imma throw in a one for all your organist!!!!
drummers keep time not you!!!!
THANK YOU!!! Drums are my main instrument but I play keyboards for a church so someone has finally been in my shoes.
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1) Like someone said earlierhen people swich keys in the middle of the song. Guest solos. pastor, etc. My pastor's good for it
2)directors who direct only the choir (leave me out)
3)When other choir's musician does not show up and the guest church's choir director dosn't know much. (mainly 3:00pm programs)
4) When we have come back for any service and only 25% of the choir from 11:00am shows up.
5)When praise team is late, and pastor is ready to sta so you have to be praiseteam in the mean till they slide in late. How about that!
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hey twinkieclark fan the reason why it fell is because of Aqurlara Black came to florenec and ripped up the organ and then left, then you had Ronald Richardson who also played really good on a 3rd Sunday service (womens afternoon service) then you had Junior , then Elder william Smith, Man that organ has been through it all
Man u aint neva lied that organ has seen it all and it still sounds really good. We got a new leslie switch put on and got the organ serviced a few months ago...this past sunday antonio black was playin the organ and piano for his sis. anita at mullins church and he recked it, I havent seen him play in years thats where aquilera got it from, adera is pretty good too...all them boys are talented.
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The things that hate the most about playing in a service that i'm invited to is when i'm asked to play a broke organ with a broken seat, a broken leslie, trying to figure out with leslie switch actually works on the organ because there are two, playing on a busted leslie and a whole set of drawbars that don't work because someone just decided that they felt Jesus coming in the room so they had to bend the drawbars up....lol! This all happened to me last sunday! [/b]
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Im just like lilben. I play drums and keys. But dont you hate it when the drummer hits a WHACK!!!!!! roll thats all off beat and when you look at him he got on the 'bitter beer face" like he is the hottest thing since sliced bread?
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oh yeah and you cant diss the drummer i started this thing so you cant diss anydrummers or imma have to kill ya hahahaha cuz man o man i play both so i know both sides imma throw in a one for all your organist!!!!
drummers keep time not you!!!!
Are u serious...yall drummers be trippin sometimes speeding up or slowin down and messin the whole song up....its soo frustrating when that happens.
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Hey drummerschoice we are only talking about the ones who can't play
:lol: :lol: :lol: aint that right TwinkieCF
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The one thing I know and like about the Hammond organ B3, C3, B2, C2, or whatever--- is that sometimes they look beatup and raggedy, but most of them, if the leslie and switch and pedals are working halfway decent can still produce the most beautiful, anointed, quality sound ever. They sound like heaven, and I will always perfer them over any other organ. When whoever built them, he must have been anointed!
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Lol...let's go with this past Sunday. I can't stand when I start playing a song and a singer walks up to the mic and changes it. (It happened twice, once for alter call,and also for offering)
I also can't stand when a singer changes the tempo of the song ( they do it all the time at my church. They always end up speeding up the somgs)
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ay atleast it aint your organist turnin around tellin you"make sure you dont play it too fast" then er one get excited "speed up boy!!!!" grrrrrrrr :x but i feel ya some drummers cant play or keep time worth nuttin but my goodness when you tell someone to play a certain speed imma keep it there lol i hate when singers are singin and im playin organ and they come on tooo early or tooo late throwing the whole song off
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1)When you're playing with the choir, and the preachers get into the song, too. so they stand up in front of you blocking your view from the director and the other musicians and then act like they're made of glass.
2)When you're trying to play, and the old deacon is singing and clapping and he closes his eyes and goes off into his own little world and he's the loudest one, and he has no timing whatsoever.
3)When someone asks you to play in B, F#, or E. My fault, but i still hate it.
4)When someone else is playing the organ and you're still there, and when they find the song is in one of the keys mentioned above, they look at you and say "play!" then they jump off as fast as they can.
5)When people keep unplugging the organ, and you jump up on sunday morning and got to plug it in.
6)When the drummer has SERIOUS timing issues.
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I really hate it when I'm playing a song in a certian key and my fellow musician starts playing it along with me but in the wrong key. To make matters worse, his keyboard sits far away from me and when I'm trying to tell him that he's playing in the wrong key, he can't read my lips. He's still a little tone-death.
I also hate it when I'm playing some soft meditation chords at prayer time (just before the service) and one of my fellow musicians come in late and joins in with me, but cranks up his volume. And all the while, he keeps cutting those sneaky eyes over at me, because he knows exactly what he's doing. We must be sensitive to the spirit and know when to play soft or loud! Sometimes we travel a rough road as musicians!
LOL :lol: :lol: :lol: I KNOW THIS ONE....BEEN THERE
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I hate it when my father tells me that he cant hear me playing but the entire choir and congregation has one finger in their ear. My father is the pastor.
I hate it when I'm playing the Organ and the head musician (MD, Miniser of Music) comes in late and gives me the boot. This used to happen to me all the time until he quit. then i saw it at nother church. The Older drummer came in while an 8 year old drummer was killin, kicked him of in the middle of the song and to top it off, couldn't play that well. Then he got up and left right after that song and we didn't see him for the rest of the service. This was during devotion!!!!!
I hate it when I forget to push in the Pedal Drawbars before I sit on the organ. Everybody starts to stare at you.
Be blessed!!!!!!!!
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I really need advice. There's a musician in my church who thinks (I will use the word "THEY" instead of him or her) "they" can play the drum and guitar.
When the drums are played "they" speed up, trip over, or slow down all in the same song. When they play the guitar, they do somewhat ok. It used to be awful because "they" would be picking and trying to find the right notes during the song.
"They" have gotten better at knowing which note to pick, however, during a "SHOUT" run, at first the rhythm is great then all of a sudden as we get deeper in to it their rhythm gets so off beat and their fingers trip all over the strings "they" totally throw the beat off course. I get so frustrated.
How do I explain to this person (who by the way "KNOWS" they can play cause Pastor allows them to do so) about their handicapped rhythm in a tactful way?
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i had a organist come and show off at my church and this cat LICKED the organ.
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I have many gripes that are more general. Here is what is specific to the organ:
1) When the organ is on the opposite side of the sanctuary from the piano.
Most people who design churches or the pulpit area think about asthetics (symmetry) and not from the musician's point of view. It's difficult to stay in communication with the pianist when you're on the other end of the sanctuary. And, it's difficult to hear each other. I don't care what anyone says, if I have a say in it, all the instruments will be on the same side. End of discussion.
2) When the Leslie isn't right next to you so you can hear yourself. I never understood the whole "putting the Leslie in the wall above you" fad. If there are two, I need to have one right next to me. If there is one, it must be next to me so I can hear. They're only 40 watts and get quickly drowned out by the choir and piano that's being piped through the sound system.
Word of advice to anyone planning on constructing or rennovating a sanctuary: Consult your musicians! They're important, too!!!!!
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I got one, the funniest thing i ever seen. I was playing for my choir at Choir celebration day last week at this church and I couldnt believe what i was witnessing, the organ player had to keep kicking the leslie in order for the bottom drum to start spining, it sounded like gun shots in the middle of the song. :lol: LOL I was laughing so loud, :lol: people started looking my way. I told him i got WD-40 in my trunk if he needs. I wonder if he knows about Hammond oil.
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Hello everyone, I'm somewhat new to this website, but I get great joy comin here cause these type of message boards and forums are so interesting, but most of all it's HILARIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yall be telling the truth when explaining the trauma we musicians go through, when I read through this I thought I was gonna bust a gut from laughin so hard, I was HOLLERIN LAUGHIN and running through my house, cause i found myself up in the same position and predicaments (if that's how you spell it), and the thing about me is that my facial expressions are hard to hide and I have a wierd laugh so Imagine my crazy behind on a sunday morning! some of things posted on here are so funny, but they are true in every degree that's why we laughin about it! I can't even begin to name crazy things that have happened to me. I am only 16 and I play for 2 churches ( that don't mean Im tight though lol) but im gettin better and the things i think about during service are crazy!!!!!!!! Oh yeah since Im in this subject, five things i hate when playin for services is
1)freestylin on every song i play, cause folk don't like to sing songs I don't know and get mad when i try to teach them new songs that will flow the service much better
2)the pastor bringin in musicians without letting me know( He also brings in praise teams as well, lol I be looking crazy) so I can know whether to sing with the praise team or be on stand by
3)when the praise team leader tells to me to turn up the keyboard, and its already on full blast and turn the organ down when the pastor is singin and its already down MY MIND CAN'T TAKE THIS MADNESS, IM A YOUNG BUCK TRYNA FIND MY WAY AND IM GOING CRAAAZZZZZYYYY!!!!!!!!!lololol ya heard?
4) the praise team wanting me to learn very complicated songs in five minutes and never wanting to learn songs i bring up, im very puzzled at this, cause i can't even them to rehearse 1 full hour and get the songs we do sing perfected 8O
5)on a serious note, not being able to flow prophetically in music like I have visions of myself doing, cause they are certain parts of the service where you really have to be spirit led and flow a certain way and I lack that because first of all I haven't been playin that long and secondly i don't get the practice during the week cause i need a Keyboard and im working on that right now so every sunday i learn there, AND IT IS A CRAAZZZY ADVENTURE I've got so much to say cause this website enlightens me and I know i will be successful if i keep my head up so thanks for listening yall and i talk later peace representin LA and the I.E.
California baby oh yeah DID SOMEONE SAY THAT A DUDE CAME TO HIS CHURCH AND LICKED HIS ORGAN OH MY GOSH HAHAHAA HAA, LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL, MAYBE HE FELT A NEED TO TASTE THE ANOINTED OIL EXUDING FROM YOUR FINGERS HAHAHAHAHAHAHA PEACE YALL
psalms 122 " I was glad when they said unto me, let us go into the house of the Lord"(http://yahoo, man i don't know how to do this!!)[/quote]
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hey im from the ie corona that is what church you go to what city in the ie you play organ i play drums lets find a bass and make some money lol holla at me yahoo larrylovesdrums@yahoo.com
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when ppl say that u playin 2 loud n u really cant hear the organ
PREACH
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I have many gripes that are more general. Here is what is specific to the organ:
1) When the organ is on the opposite side of the sanctuary from the piano.
Most people who design churches or the pulpit area think about asthetics (symmetry) and not from the musician's point of view. It's difficult to stay in communication with the pianist when you're on the other end of the sanctuary. And, it's difficult to hear each other. I don't care what anyone says, if I have a say in it, all the instruments will be on the same side. End of discussion.
2) When the Leslie isn't right next to you so you can hear yourself. I never understood the whole "putting the Leslie in the wall above you" fad. If there are two, I need to have one right next to me. If there is one, it must be next to me so I can hear. They're only 40 watts and get quickly drowned out by the choir and piano that's being piped through the sound system.
Word of advice to anyone planning on constructing or rennovating a sanctuary: Consult your musicians! They're important, too!!!!!
This is all sound advice. You lose all your bass when the Leslie is off the ground and/or not against a wall, and you absolutely need it near the organ. And not having all the musicians in one area is just painful.
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When people in the crowd try to get u to play a song that please them, fact 2 and theyre in the key of ZFlat, also people that dont know nuthn bout music tellin u how 2 play, when people say ur playn to loud and you can't really hear the organ.
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I don't know if this has happend to any other organ players but.... At my church at the end of service, one of our older deacons (he's pretty old... So sometimes his mind will wander) will get up to talk and sometimes he'll bust out singing an old song that NO ones knows and all you can do is guess!!!!
It's pretty funny sometimes because he'll start off in E (my favortie key) then jump all the way in Ab or A!!! It's so funny because the deacon at our church looks like Mr. Rolands from Big Momma's House!!! You'd have to visit my church because you'll have a good time every Sunday!!!! I guarantee it!!!!
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ay atleast it aint your organist turnin around tellin you"make sure you dont play it too fast" then er one get excited "speed up boy!!!!" grrrrrrrr :x but i feel ya some drummers cant play or keep time worth nuttin but my goodness when you tell someone to play a certain speed imma keep it there lol i hate when singers are singin and im playin organ and they come on tooo early or tooo late throwing the whole song off
LOL....LOL.....LOL You got me in tears with this one, our drummer does the same thing. I let him slide because he's my 9 yr old nephew but sometimes he act like he's the man even when he's totally slow. And the singer that comes in too early, that's definitely my mother. Bless her heart.....lol
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Statements like what u all made..keeps me laughing and coming back to this site. God Bless all yall musicians.
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Its statements like what u all make that makes me keep coming back to this site..i had me some good laughs. Be blessed.
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when I was playing in a contemperary worship church(white boy rock with praise God lyrics), I'd stand up to play and was always kicking the power cord out-the one that came with it-it's real loose on the socket.
Now I use a regular extension cord and have no problems.
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Most of the scenarios that were posted in this topic I have been through. I can remember at my church picnic, a guest deacon who was visiting the service was asked to bless the food. After he blessed the food, he began to sing an old hym. While he was singing, everybody dipped on him(including the pastor) and went to eat while me and the rest of the musicians were left to play.
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not to say hate but it sometimes get to me when i play my own thing going or try to set the mood and my fellow musicians are playing something completly different. plus at one church that i help at, the leslie is not strong enough because it problably needs a new tube and there is a bass and keyboard speaker surrounding the leslie. i cant hereeeeeeee aaaaaaaaaaa thingggggggggg what im doin. i cantttttttt standddddd thatttttttt. also if im playing bymyself ( not to be selfish) but a musician just come out of nowwhere and plays over me.
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1.) When the bass pedals stick!
2.) When the leslie won't come on or go off!!
3.) When you are drowned out by everything else!!!
4.) When you pick a song to play for offering and some older person starts singing some thing really old or traditional!!!!
5.) Some body starts signing a song they made up that can't sing!!!!!
Number 5 I relate to the most. I play for an AME church that is full of old people who can't sang and love to make up songs from hymns.
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5 things i can't stand while playing in service....
1.Everybody's drowning me out!!!!!
2. Someone who's singing is changing 8,000 different notes while singing their song.
3.Musicican sometimes like to act tone deaf and play a whole different notes than what is supposed to be played and nobody listens when i play the real note
4.Drummers luv 2 fiddle faddle loudly while testimony is goin' on, making congregation looking sour faced at musicians.
5.Someone singing a song can't keep their original tempo and start off too fast and blaming us !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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5 things I hate about playing the organ in service is when
1. Someone is in a high praise testimony and I'm am playing fast praise music and the testimony leader breaks in with a slow worship song even though half the church is shouting.
2. When I am playing a slow worship song as part of the flow of service when the drummer won't cooperate and they are playing fast beats even though the service is at the slow worship point because they are ready for a fast praise song.
3. When a singer is singing out of tune to the 10th power.
4. When in choir practice we practice a song to sing and then the choir come up in service with something I have never heard of. I be like ???
5. When I am drowned out to the 5th power.
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wow this is hilarious...you guys have some organ problems...but i got some organ issues. Here they are:
5) When the bass pedals stick or they don't play- You either have too long of a bass or no bass at all
4) When the preacher can't decide whether he wants to preach in b flat or b natural- have ya'll ever heard a preacher preach between keys
3) When the drawbars don't all work- man you be tryin to get them to play and there is a certain spot they work and a certain spot they don't
2) When the special guest soloist says " I gone do this one accapella" then after church they ask you why you didn't "catch" them- like they really knew what acapella meant.
& #1) When the director of another group asks you to play The Presence of the Lord is Here in the key that it is in, but they sing it in another key and they don't do any changes and then they be looking at you like you don't know the song...-HUH...
My bad for the last one, this church youth choir came to a service and they asked me to play and they jacked it up...I was really laughing... :D :D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D
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I know this thread is OLD, but it is hilarious !!! I had to put my top 5 in here too!
#5. Playing with a good guitar player that decides to grab the bass during service, but can't play the bass AT ALL and does solos on the bass like it's a guitar!! lol.... I didn't know that was possible.
#4. A guest singer that comes in and didn't bring a musician, but doesn't speak to you about playing anything for them, and expects you to follow them, by yelling in the mic" come on and play...fellow me"...like we already had something worked out.
#3. A guest organist that is just terrible and blames the lack of playing ability on the actual organ because it's not like the one at their church.....when the organ really works fine and is in perfect condition. When they really dont know how to operate an organ and play EVERY single song with the same drawbar setting.
#2. Preachers that actually call you (days ahead of time) when they know they are coming to preach at your church and dogg their own musician and tell you to make sure you play the organ for them when they preach....That's just not right! lol
#1. Older people that don't keep up with Current Gospel Music and they come up to you and tell you that the R&B & Jazz music that you are playing is not for church and is of the devil, but you are actually playin' some Fred Hammond, Isreal, or Kirk Franklin......lol.. JUST GO SIT DOWN!!! lol
Just my 2 cents
God Bless
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The only thing I really HATE................
The new LEGION of "Burrell-esque" singers! Why everybody gotta try to sing like that?? The first verse of the song has like 14, 000 changes in it....
........ugh.
But, worse than that ..... are the ones who try to sing in that style, and they really can't sing.....
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What you said about the bass player is hilarious, that happens to me at one of my churches, he'll start playing the melody line lol, but it just won't fit right
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OK I got a few.
Guest organist comes to my church. After he is done playing he STANDS UP ON MY PEDALBOARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!eleven
Man I am about to knock your guest a$$ OUT.
My deacons are bad about this: Especially on "Take Me To The River" -- the baptismal hymn. There are 2 bars of rests for the singers at the end of this song--the deacons just fire up the next verse after 5-6 beats. Umm?? I guess there's a bar of 5/4 at the end of this song. One time one of our drummers (a 74 yr old dude) yelled across the church: "Y'all brothas got NO rhythm!!"
The thing about people abusing your instrument. Do not play it like it's an old out of tune piano and you're trying to be heard in Texas Stadium. Hitting the keys harder does not make it louder. Do not use your elbows for glisses.
Do not mess with the volume control on my Leslie. I have it set like that so it doesn't clip or damage the amps or speakers. If you turn it up I will come up and turn it back down. Fry your own Leslie. There's a reason we have the best Hammond in town -- we take care of it.
I could go on and on.
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1. someone singing in z flat
2. my sister telling me to quiet down to hear the choir and then when I quiet down we still can't hear the choir because they are not singing loud at all.
3. people wanting to hold a full conversation in your ear while you're trying to play worship service and then the praise team goes way off to left field and now you gotta catch up.
4. your brother blows into town and decides to jump on the keyboard and during the song shows all the runs he's learned but he's only learned them in one key.
5. ok. no 5
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We had a guest church recently come through and they didn't bring their musician....I don't play songs I don't know and their choir sang one I didn't know....The choir director comes over to me in the middle of the song while they are singing and decides to teach the song to me....The bruh was in a different key then what the choir was singing in and to make things worse..The man's BREATH!! just about knocked me off the organ bench...They gotta remember to take the condiments at the exit door from the restaurant before they come to evening service....lol :-\
One more thing is my uncle decided to play the drums that night because my drummer wasn't there. My uncle play CYMBALS & BASS DRUM ONLY!!! It got so loud that he couldn't hear the songs when they were over and would always end up playing by himself at the end of end song while everybody would be on the floor laughing....I was about to take the lords supper table and break it over his head!!! lol :D
God Bless
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I can't read stuff like this at work man....the kids are in here taking a geometry test and Mr. Mason is in the back giggling
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1. when the other organ player half learns the song but wants to play the song for premessage.
2. when the person taking the offering starts singing a song when the musicians were already playing something. and on top of that they can't sing.
3. when a musician from another church comes and feels like he has to out play me. ( come on man we're all brothers and sisters)
4. when the director blames the choir sounding bad on the organist. they say " thats not the key we learned the song in"
5. when the person in charge of service tries to sing a song as fast as we are playing the shout'n music and it doesn't sound right so we have to slow all the way down to make them sound good.
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i had a organist come and show off at my church and this cat LICKED the organ.
thats too much
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LOL, these are hilarious.
1. I don't like when someone tells me, "You play really good." When not only do I suck but I didn't play about three of the songs during praise and testimony service.
2. When you're playing a song for the praise team to sing and they sing something different.
3. When you play the note of a key that a song is in for the person who asked you to play a song for them and they still sing in a different key.
4. When I go to district meetings and there is no organist there, then everybody looks at me like why are you not going up there. I'm thinking because I know I'm going to embarass myself when I get up there.
5. When another organist comes and plays but won't show me anything after church.
6. When my mom sings a song for testimony service that she pulled from the late 70's. I love them but I sure can't play them.
7. When the drummer is constantly changing the beat because they ain't paying attention.
8. When the drummer starts off and is off beat.
9. When the drummer is on the drums playing around. Do they not understand that they are in ministry?
10. I'm a drummer first then a choir director, and then an organist and I hate when we go somewhere and have to sing and the organist asks me you gon' play for your choir. I'm thinking... do I ever play for the choir??? LOL
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when ppl say that u playin 2 loud n u really cant hear the organ
yesss yesass yss i hate dat i cant hear the organ ... betta shut up lol
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I hate it when I'm trying to find the key a singer is singing in and once you find it they(singer) go off into wonderland. After service they tell you that you can really play :lol: :lol: :roll:
Thats the kinda stuff i hate i've been to 2 stop by a soloist because i was tryin 2 find her key
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ima tell yall wat i really hate wen i go 2 a visting church and they dont have and organ .... dats wat i had and u have 2 play they outta tune piano
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1 - Stuck Pedals
2 - Leslie won't change gears
3 - People that want center stage during shouts (they wait until everyone else finishes and then shouts with their eyes open)
4 - Directors who forget that they have musicians and start mouthing directions to the choir and wonder why we don't make transitions with them.
5 - Drummers with bad timing (sorry guys, but it's a pet peeve). :oops:
every thing i agreeeeeeeeeeeee expeclly #4(robert)
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THANK YOU!!! Drums are my main instrument but I play keyboards for a church so someone has finally been in my shoes.
yall good drummer but yall need sum cleaner licks and stay on tempo i call min a pocket drummer on who stay on time (mine bless his heart)
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1. I was playing "Thank you lord" (the traditional response) with a 12/8 feel...and the drummer forced me into playing it with a straight 4/4 feel...*argh*
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1) When someone starts singing in a key that is off pitch (not in any key) and when you join in on organ in nearest key, they stick on that pitch. (how is this possible?)
2) when someone that can't sing gets the microphone or when someone misses the groove of a tune (can't sing/play synchopated rythym)
3) Someone tries have a band pull off complex music in public without a lead sheet.
4) Pastors that don't plan their services in advance ( I like music to match the message).( I have had many promise to deliver topics a month ahead but then don't deliver at all).
5) Musicians that play too loud and don't understand dynamics and/or tempo changes.
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hey ya'll how ya been doing na just playin what i hate is that my director of the choir be hating because god didn't bless him with the organ talent but he be air playing and talking about me but when i comfront him and tell him to play something then he's like man i don't know that song. do anybody else go through all that jealousy or it's just me
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Ab WENT OUT!!!! OMG!!! THAT MEANS THE ORGAN WAS ALMOST UNUSABLE!
HA HA HA...Now that is funny and you KNOW it is the truth!!!
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PianoWiz...
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HA HA HA...Now that is funny and you KNOW it is the truth!!!
Dang,that is messed up.Welcome to the tanyaalkhaliq
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LOL Man I love these posts! All true, true, true. I've experienced all if this and some.
I hate it when:
1) Our church goes to another church for a second service and after the home church finishes, their musicians stand behind our musicians when we go up and hawk us like we came to put on a show for them or something.
2) When the musican for a soloist is late, so you start to play for soloist and he/she gets there in the middle of the song. Then they sneak up on you to bump you off the organ, but there is a tight space up there so you have to sit on the edge of the bench while they play. Very unconfortable!
3) I play a congregational hymn in a jazzy style and there is a bass player playing it quartet style.
a) A bass player comes in and sets up all his gear and decides to play with you and he don't know none of the songs.
b) A bass player comes in with a phat 6 string bass and won't play the bassline. He's busy soloing all over the place, leaving it up to me to play my own bass. >:( Then when I start to play the basslines, he stops soloing to play the bass, clashing with me. >:( >:(
4) You are visiting another church and they have one of those old house organs that don't have drawbars and lights up like one of those old Casio keyboards. And sounds like one too! And your choir members take one look at it and shake their head and pat you on the back. LOL
5) When you really need to leave (like for a dinner date, or trying to catch the shed on the other side of town) and the visiting church does not bring a musician and you have to play for them. Then you put your finger up so you can tip out of the church after they are done, but someone catches you on the way out and asks if you would play for them. After that, you then you put your finger up to tip out again and the director for another guest church stops you in the isle to play for their church. argg!!
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THANK YOU!!! Drums are my main instrument but I play keyboards for a church so someone has finally been in my shoes.
I know how y'all bruthas feel... I used to play drums, and felt tha same way. BUT EVERYBODY has to keep time.
It's just that the Drummer, not only keep time, but tempo, and other rythm arrangements.
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i have been reading the comments that were left and i have to agree with everyone with their pet peeves. i thought that i was the only one who felt certain ways when it comes to praise teams singing their own renditions of songs and then looking at you as if you were wrong....or trying to play behind a soloist who really not that hot and they tell you to stop(and all you trying to do is make them sound a lil better)...to playing a whole service when your pastor is the guest pastor!!!! it feels really good to know that i am not by myself in feeling certain ways! thanks you guys and gals.
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i have been reading the comments that were left and i have to agree with everyone with their pet peeves. i thought that i was the only one who felt certain ways when it comes to praise teams singing their own renditions of songs and then looking at you as if you were wrong....or trying to play behind a soloist who really not that hot and they tell you to stop(and all you trying to do is make them sound a lil better)...to playing a whole service when your pastor is the guest pastor!!!! it feels really good to know that i am not by myself in feeling certain ways! thanks you guys and gals.
You hit the mark on that one about the soloist. Guess what....I don't even accompany soloist unless we communicate before she sings. If I'm not familiar with the song, I will not play. Acapella never hurt anyone... ;D
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Great topic and replies. You all have mentioned many of mine. But, here are a few other:
1. If we are visiting a church and when it's time for our choir to sing, the musician playing is taking his time getting off the organ.
2. When we have a visiting musician and he plays too loud or tries to "outplay" me. That's usually a young showoff... :)
3. None of my drummers show up. Both are under 18, but not that reliable... :(
4. Someone tells me to turn down the organ, it's too loud ?/?
5. Drummer isn't looking at the director or me...just playing in his own world... ?/?
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1. I hate playing for people who just cant sing but they say they know the gift that "GOD" gave them (in my mind i'm sayin it aint sangin i'm sure of that)
2. when the drummer cant control the tempo(this dude pushed shoutin music so fast that he couldnt keep up anymore)
3. when other musicians look down on you, until, they hear you play and thats when they become people persons
4. workind with another musician who just dont see that they some growth boy they think everything they do is right and any other way is wrong
5. organ failures get under my skin
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There are things that I dislike, however there is noting that I hate.
1. Someone has to take the blame when a singer or singers mess up, and that person is the paid musician.
2. I don't like to play organs that need to be fixed.
3. I don't like to play something other than a Hammond when visiting another church.
4. I don't like speaker malfunctions, including Leslie Speaker switch malfunctions.
5. I don't like loud musicians, who are not accompanying voices, but are soloing up-front and have put the voice or voices in the background with their loud playing.
6. I don't like churches that have their speakers (tone cabinets or Leslies) spread far apart on pedestles like they are in stereo for the church audience and away from the organ, where I can't hear my volume in relation to the singer or singers voices. One speaker should always be close to the organ.
7. One day I went to a COGIC church and this young woman got up and sang two songs that she made up as she went along. I was stymied. I have been playing two lifetimes of 40 years. I started taking lessons in 1956, and really stated playing for churches in 1962. Those were two songs that my intuition couldn't help me with. I haven't been frustrated like that since I first started playing. I couldn't even figure out the form of the tunes. I hope I never see or hear her sing again in life. That really made me feel stupid. I left there feeling really down. I didn't expect any pay, and was really trying to help a friend out who said the church needed someone to play for them at that program. That was a real eye-opener. I had just met these people so I guess they thought I didn't know what I was doing.
Always remember that you as a paid musician are an employee, who is working for that church. Those people are ignorant and not professional, but you are, as a professional you need to know every tune or as least enough about music to fake the tune and make it sound good, regardless of who is singing. Just as if you were ill and went to a physician for help with a medical problem of which you are ignorant. Even if the doctor does a good job in diagnosing the problem and finds a soulution, he may be talked about as if he was wrong. Fault finding is easy to do, because most people don't want to admit they are wrong. I just smile sometimes at how truly ignorant most people are.
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WHEN THEY SAY, HEY YOUR REALLY LOUD.... AND I BE LIKE, "TO YOU, BECAUSE I CAN NOT EVEN HEAR THE ORGAN
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i hate win the pastor start whoopin and then hesay dnt go ther boy, or win people b shoutin 4 a extra lonnnnnggg time(cogic) lol
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1. Soloist starts a song in one key and then changes in the middle of the song and looks at me like I made a mistake. LOL!! ?/?
2. The Hammond or the Leslie is all broke up!! :o :'(
3. Backing up the preacher in one key and then he or she jumps 5 keys up and looks at me like I ain't following. LOL!! ?/? ::)
4. The Leslie is on the wall on the opposite side from me. >:(
5. A musician asks to play along on a song he or she does not really know and then tries to take over and plays the wrong changes. ::) :P
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1. people who can't sing trying to making stuff up >:( >:( >:(
2. when i can't find the right key
3. musician from other church asking me what key im in , figure it out!!! pffft :P :P
4. musician from other church playing to loud, turn it down man! :o :o :o
5. people telling me im playing too loud when i can't even hear myself, or even turning down the mixer >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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If I may sound off...not cast any stones at anyone
What tops my list...
1. Being invited to a church to render music and realizing the church has no clue that an instrument tuner/repairperson exists. In other words, some churches have some pretty messed up organs and pianos. Some folk don't be taking care of what has been entrusted to them, which brings me to ..
2. Guest musicians who come to your church and practically abuse your insturments with their stomping and banging. I did one time have to invite one particular musician up off my church's Hammond.
3. And like many who have sounded off before me, trying to find a key for someone at the mike trying to sing in key that doesn't exist and this twist...
4....this includes some preachers lol
5. Don't get me wrong, I love this gift God has blessed me with...but I play for a church where I and the drummer are the only musicians and that means playing each Sunday and any service in-between...so sometimes when I get a chance to visit services or attend programs at other churches, I would like to enjoy the service from the pew and not be called on automatically by someone just because they know I'm a musician (I know that some of you who don't get a chance to play that often would love to be in a situation like that, but as for me....I need to have my batteries recharged and receive a blessing from someone else. (p.s. before I suffer someone's wrath...because hell hath no fury like Holy Ghost annointed church folk..lol...I have never said no when I've been asked to play)
Thanks to whoever decided to get this site and these forums up and running. I also look forward to learning a lot from all of these annointed men and women of God and being blessed by your musical insight.
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Thanks PianoWiz
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2. Guest musicians who come to your church and practically abuse your insturments with their stomping and banging. I did one time have to invite one particular musician up off my church's Hammond.
I know what you mean. This guy came to our church with his choir and proceeded to doing gymnastics acrobatics on our Hammond. Needless to say he broke a key and I immediately went up to him while his choir was singing and he was playing and asked him what was he doing and told him he wasn't leaving before he paid. I got a $100 check before he got of the organ..LOL.
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I know what you mean. This guy came to our church with his choir and proceeded to doing gymnastics acrobatics on our Hammond. Needless to say he broke a key and I immediately went up to him while his choir was singing and he was playing and asked him what was he doing and told him he wasn't leaving before he paid. I got a $100 check before he got of the organ..LOL.
THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKIN BOUT!!! You debo'd him!...LOL
We keep a "do not touch" sign on the B3 at church. The pastor only wants me playing it. Since I'm the only musician...when it messes up, it's not because some irresponsible visiting musician has been abusing the instrument.
*note*...people don't care about your stuff...LOL