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Title: Yo my dad hit a very valid point
Post by: lilben on October 12, 2005, 06:48:53 PM
This past Sunday me and my dad were talking, and he was like why do you take so many sticks to church with you? I said because sticks break and I need different sticks for different feels of different songs. He was like you can only play with 2 sticks at a time. I said but sticks break if I keep doing rimshots they will wear down and soon break. So he said if  the anointing of God is on you sticks wont break. So I am like why is that, he was like when the anointing of God is on you it is on the sticks and with the anointing of God being on you that means you have the right control of the sticks. I was like ok wellllllll, I saw Chris Kee break a stick. He said evidently he got too full of himself and not allowing God to take control, so his stick broke. Then I thought back when Chris broke that stick he broke it in like the first verse of the song. So I am thinking welllllllllllllllll!!! What are yall views on this? I need some replies on this.
Title: Re: Yo my dad hit a very valid point
Post by: Mud on October 12, 2005, 06:58:42 PM
Quote from: lilben
This past Sunday me and my dad were talking, and he was like why do you take so many sticks to church with you? I said because sticks break and I need different sticks for different feels of different songs. He was like you can only play with 2 sticks at a time. I said but sticks break if I keep doing rimshots they will wear down and soon break. So he said if  the anointing of God is on you sticks wont break. So I am like why is that, he was like when the anointing of God is on you it is on the sticks and with the anointing of God being on you that means you have the right control of the sticks. I was like ok wellllllll, I saw Chris Kee break a stick. He said evidently he got too full of himself and not allowing God to take control, so his stick broke. Then I thought back when Chris broke that stick he broke it in like the first verse of the song. So I am thinking welllllllllllllllll!!! What are yall views on this? I need some replies on this.


Does your dad just find taking a bunch of sticks annoying personally - and came up with an spiritual excuse for why you shouldn't need so many? Frankly, none of that made any sense to me.

However, maybe your father is more spiritually wise than I can imagine...
Title: Yo my dad hit a very valid point
Post by: playhear on October 12, 2005, 07:14:45 PM
Yeah, that story was kinda out there. Maybe God will anoint your dad with an ice cold one so he can chill out a little.
Title: Yo my dad hit a very valid point
Post by: SabianKnight on October 13, 2005, 03:23:30 AM
Interesting concept. I guess he is saying that under the anointing everything is perfected so that your stick couldn't break, slip etc. He seems to be telling you to work more  on your consecration.

He was definiley having a "Yoda" moment however, we could all stand to be more consecrated in our musical offereings. Try it and tell us how it turns out.

(I personally will keep my stick bag filled until the Lord tell me otherwise.)
Title: Yo my dad hit a very valid point
Post by: crazyfoot on October 13, 2005, 08:54:47 AM
Quote from: SabianKnight
Interesting concept. I guess he is saying that under the anointing everything is perfected so that your stick couldn't break, slip etc. He seems to be telling you to work more  on your consecration.

He was definiley having a "Yoda" moment however, we could all stand to be more consecrated in our musical offereings. Try it and tell us how it turns out.

(I personally will keep my stick bag filled until the Lord tell me otherwise.)


I understood what your pop means but at the same token, no matter how you play if you are hard or a soft player you are going to break a stick evidentally . That comes with being a drummer. Wood of course as we all know after a while will shed. Unless you buy a pair of ahead sticks, you should keep more than a pair of stix with you at church.  8)
Title: Yo my dad hit a very valid point
Post by: crazyfoot on October 13, 2005, 08:56:51 AM
I understood what your pop means but at the same token, no matter how you play if you are hard or a soft player you are going to break a stick evidentally . That comes with being a drummer. Wood of course as we all know after a while will shed. Unless you buy a pair of ahead sticks, you should keep more than a pair of stix with you at church.  8)
Title: Yo my dad hit a very valid point
Post by: Eccentric-Rhythm on October 13, 2005, 08:58:32 AM
I personally carry a quite a bit of sticks.
A point I would bring to your Dads attention, besides breaking sticks, is losing grip on a stick. When we play, we obviously move, and get sweaty...you can lose hand grip and drop a stick...That happens no matter how much of Gods annointing is on you. It may happen twice in a service and not again for 3 months. but when it happens, you cant bend down to the floor to find and pick up the stick...You grab one from your stick bag. You do not want tot throw off the music.

So there is your defense for at least 2 pairs. I personally have only broken 1 pair, and they did not break during a service.

God Bless.
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Title: Yo my dad hit a very valid point
Post by: Mud on October 13, 2005, 09:19:39 AM
Does a broken stick matter to God?

I'm totally not seeing the connection between playing under the annointing and a stick, with no need or option for salvation, breaking. If God wanted to show his Power by not letting your sticks break - that would be one thing, other than, sticks are still bound by natural physicals laws - even if YOU'RE playing under the influence of God's annointing.

I believe that, while God is omnipotent, he only intervenes and operates through things that are significant to the Kingdom.

I actually feel silly for responding to this, lol...
Title: Yo my dad hit a very valid point
Post by: Domski on October 13, 2005, 12:40:52 PM
i broke about 3 pairs of my sticks and last night at service i dropped one about t3 times we were getting down my hands were so sweaty.
Title: Yo my dad hit a very valid point
Post by: Zilpex on October 13, 2005, 12:59:57 PM
Yeah, and under the anointing preacher should only take the pages from the bible that are relevant to their preaching. Afterall, if the anointing is on them they will remember those scriptures through divine inspiration.  Just Kidding
Title: Re: Yo my dad hit a very valid point
Post by: jonesl78 on October 13, 2005, 01:12:28 PM
Quote from: lilben
This past Sunday me and my dad were talking, and he was like why do you take so many sticks to church with you? I said because sticks break and I need different sticks for different feels of different songs. He was like you can only play with 2 sticks at a time. I said but sticks break if I keep doing rimshots they will wear down and soon break. So he said if  the anointing of God is on you sticks wont break. So I am like why is that, he was like when the anointing of God is on you it is on the sticks and with the anointing of God being on you that means you have the right control of the sticks. I was like ok wellllllll, I saw Chris Kee break a stick. He said evidently he got too full of himself and not allowing God to take control, so his stick broke. Then I thought back when Chris broke that stick he broke it in like the first verse of the song. So I am thinking welllllllllllllllll!!! What are yall views on this? I need some replies on this.



Besides breaking sticks; most drummers carry a lot of sticks because different songs require different sticks. when I used to play the drums, I had about 10 different sticks that I had wth me at all times. More importantly, the annoiting doesn't require sticks at all. God can use hangers. lol how many of yall know what im talikin bout?
Title: Well...
Post by: DuvalsLilJohnLumpkin on October 13, 2005, 03:25:39 PM
LilBen, honestly all you need is pair of strong sticks that you really like.  At least bout 3 or 4 pair.  Your Dad is just being a Dad and not a drummer, if he was a drummer he would tell you what I just told you. However, don't be rebelious! This is just a part of growing up with parents :wink: .
Title: Yo my dad hit a very valid point
Post by: bae95 on October 13, 2005, 06:24:40 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, i needed that! Tell you're dad he blessed me. I really hope he was joking becuz if he wasnt he really misinterpreted a few scriptures.  WOW!
Title: Yo my dad hit a very valid point
Post by: Zildjiankid on October 13, 2005, 06:31:14 PM
Quote from: playhear
Yeah, that story was kinda out there. Maybe God will anoint your dad with an ice cold one so he can chill out a little.


This cat! :D  :D ZK
Title: Yo my dad hit a very valid point
Post by: Freddy229 on October 13, 2005, 06:52:52 PM
I can't do anything but repeat what others have already said! Since there is no BIBLICAL FOUNDATION to what he said, all I can suggest is buying sticks with 'good wood'. You know, oak or something like that. I use Vater 8A's and they stand up to quite a bit of punishment. ALso, Pro-MArk has a good line of sticks a la 747's or 727's try those.

I think dear old dad is tryna get outta buying more sticks personally!!! Be blessed, 'FRed
Title: Yo my dad hit a very valid point
Post by: lilben on October 13, 2005, 07:00:06 PM
Quote from: Freddy229
I can't do anything but repeat what others have already said! Since there is no BIBLICAL FOUNDATION to what he said, all I can suggest is buying sticks with 'good wood'. You know, oak or something like that. I use Vater 8A's and they stand up to quite a bit of punishment. ALso, Pro-MArk has a good line of sticks a la 747's or 727's try those.

I think dear old dad is tryna get outta buying more sticks personally!!! Be blessed, 'FRed


Man I have 26 pair of stix at the least and he hasnt bought not one of them.
Title: Yo my dad hit a very valid point
Post by: thedrummerschoice on October 13, 2005, 09:23:10 PM
man as of tonight i hate promarks why did i buy like 10 pair first song soon *** i hit the hi hat stick broke in half!!!! broke three pairs of 5b size sticks man broke the rest of um man im goin back to my vic hirths
Title: LilBen....
Post by: DuvalsLilJohnLumpkin on October 13, 2005, 09:53:25 PM
Listen to me LilBen :wink: !  Respect your father and just go through the motion.  This situation will exit its own self. Just give it sometime to leave.
Title: Yo my dad hit a very valid point
Post by: fenderjazz on October 14, 2005, 09:44:35 AM
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So he said if the anointing of God is on you sticks wont break. So I am like why is that, he was like when the anointing of God is on you it is on the sticks and with the anointing of God being on you that means you have the right control of the sticks. I was like ok wellllllll, I saw Chris Kee break a stick. He said evidently he got too full of himself and not allowing God to take control, so his stick broke.


There's a fine line between having faith in God's annointing and mistaking the annointing for magic. That line has definitely been crossed here. By this logic, any preacher that forgets a word at anytime is also too full of himself. Any honest mistake that happens in church is the result of folks being full of themselves. :?
Title: Yo my dad hit a very valid point
Post by: Da_Drumma on October 14, 2005, 09:57:16 AM
Im sorry but the anointing of god will drive you crazy. I dont think that playing under the anointing means playing at mp. Im Pentacostal and yall know how we do, we get our praise on! I dont think you can apply the anointing of god to breaking a stick. Theres been times where our praise and worship has been so heavy that I felt like picking up a bat and bussing the heck out of my kit LOL!!! But my point is just because your breaking sticks dosent mean you are not playing under the anointing of god. Plus If the keyboard player gets louder or lets say everyone else in the band does, so will the drummer, its music. Each part of a song has its dynamics, but In shouting music yall know there is no dynamics!!!! Its just straight up get your praise on time lol!!!! But for real ask tye tribett and sound check!!   We some times tend to get crazy for god.......and Its still under the anointing :D !

                                                              Be Blessed!!!
P.S. - Oh I do break alot of sticks
Title: Yo my dad hit a very valid point
Post by: lovmydrums on October 14, 2005, 01:31:05 PM
Sup fellows,

I believe that stick break falls back on a few issues!

1- when you not allowing the stick to rebound properly. The energy you strike with, you should get it back on the return. Alot of times we hit pass the actually point of the drum head... thats why you see pit and dents. The sound suppose to come back up from the drums. Thats why we mic on the top, the sound come upward.

2- If your drums has microphones on them... you don't have to play the kit actually hard. Let the mic's work for you. I'm not saying you aren't going to break the sticks.. but when you learn how to carm down relax, not tense up you will learn that playing the drums really ain't that physical.. we make it hard then it suppose to be. I sweat because of the lights more then physical playing.

3- how you have your monitor level set plays a great deal. If you are blasting everything at you. You will fight the drums too! Meaning you will play loud and harder because you feel you can't hear.


I know chris kee personally he fights the kit.. playing should look effortless and feel effortless, at times it looks like he is working hard for his money. EVERYONE! Man relax when you get behind the kit. You can use the same chops, techniques, showmanship but with less energy trust me. Dennis Chambers doesn't use as much energy playing as you think, he's chillin behind the kit! I used to leave gigs feeling like I been pumping weights... but I realize I was fighting the drums.

So relax don't play so hard, let the sticks and mics play the drums for you.. you want break the sticks as offering I promise!

John Blackwell is a perfect example of what NOT to do on the kit AS FAR as playing. The brotha looks like he is fighting mike tyson! Much love to him I'm speaking technique only here, I'm not hating! Everyone has strong points and weak points!

Hope that helps! (A lot of times we use religion as a crutch for our lack of ) We blame the devil for stuff WE just really did!)
Title: Yo my dad hit a very valid point
Post by: SabianKnight on October 14, 2005, 08:36:02 PM
Dead on LoveMyDrums. Relaxation is the key... proper posture and proper breathing.
Title: Yo my dad hit a very valid point
Post by: Dooley on October 14, 2005, 09:08:47 PM
That was the strangest thing i have ever read!!!  That means that if you play an organ with broken keys, if you are anointed them keys will sound anyways when u play.  Sike nah, just hold your sticks right, and hit the drums right.  If you break sticks, get some new ones.  Thats why they are so inexpensive
Title: Re: Yo my dad hit a very valid point
Post by: bigblackdrummer on October 16, 2005, 08:31:32 PM
Quote from: lilben
This past Sunday me and my dad were talking, and he was like why do you take so many sticks to church with you? I said because sticks break and I need different sticks for different feels of different songs. He was like you can only play with 2 sticks at a time. I said but sticks break if I keep doing rimshots they will wear down and soon break. So he said if  the anointing of God is on you sticks wont break. So I am like why is that, he was like when the anointing of God is on you it is on the sticks and with the anointing of God being on you that means you have the right control of the sticks. I was like ok wellllllll, I saw Chris Kee break a stick. He said evidently he got too full of himself and not allowing God to take control, so his stick broke. Then I thought back when Chris broke that stick he broke it in like the first verse of the song. So I am thinking welllllllllllllllll!!! What are yall views on this? I need some replies on this.


Hey guys I must not have the anointing at all with my bag of 41 pairs of Los Cabos rock sticks!!!!!! Hmmmm but I hardly break sticks at church :?  I dont know man, sticks dont have a spirit or a soul, so unless theres a wood god for the anointing to get to them me and my 41 pairs will be at church on Sunday.