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Gospel Instruments => Gospel Keyboard / Piano => Topic started by: ShadowPhace on October 28, 2005, 01:29:24 PM
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What kind of keyboards do you all have? I have a yahama DGX 205
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I have a radioshack keyboard.
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lol....I have a Roland A-33 Midi Keyboard controller...it was my dads...when he died, I took over, hopefully tryin to make as good of music as he did.
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I've been doing this for 30 years, so basically I have (or have had) them all. One critical mistake that musicians make is that they think if they get a more expensive keyboard that it will make them a better player.
More than once I have seen somebody (myself included) with a super keyboard set-up get put to shame by someone else who was just playing the piano.
To answer your question - my current arsenal is:
Motif
Motif EX
Triton Extreme
MS2000
K2000R
Q Rack
Karma - lightweight and easy to carry
WaveStation EX
Fantom Rack
SY-77 - Old Faithful
And a G2X - killer board, but not very useful in gospel
Lots of softsynths, MiniMoog V, Modular, SonikSynth, etc.
Next purchase will be a Virus.... and that will be my last keyboard purchase.. I promise, really ; )
I suppose the next question will be - which one is my favorite? The answer is all of them. That's kind of like asking "what's your favorite software program?" Windows, Outlook, Explorer? Again the answer is all of them.
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I've been doing this for 30 years, so basically I have (or have had) them all. One critical mistake that musicians make is that they think if they get a more expensive keyboard that it will make them a better player.
More than once I have seen somebody (myself included) with a super keyboard set-up get put to shame by someone else who was just playing the piano.
To answer your question - my current arsenal is:
Motif
Motif EX
Triton Extreme
MS2000
K2000R
Q Rack
Karma - lightweight and easy to carry
WaveStation EX
Fantom Rack
SY-77 - Old Faithful
And a G2X - killer board, but not very useful in gospel
Lots of softsynths, MiniMoog V, Modular, SonikSynth, etc.
Next purchase will be a Virus.... and that will be my last keyboard purchase.. I promise, really ; )
I suppose the next question will be - which one is my favorite? The answer is all of them. That's kind of like asking "what's your favorite software program?" Windows, Outlook, Explorer? Again the answer is all of them.
Are you a professional musician?
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ashtonepage
I hear you about the better keyboard thing. However, what do you recommed if you have a keyboard (Roland) RS-9 with no sequencer for drum beats. I am starting a small praise team and I am the only musician. I would like to have drums as a part of the ensemble. what would you do? By the way, I am beginner/intermediate keyboard player and am aspiring to play for a church in the new year. I did have an Alesis beat machine but I've since given it away because it was so hard to make a beat pattern.
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roland fantom x6 with the world, ultimate keys and street beats expansion card
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Hi there,
Yes, I am a professional. I am currently the musician in a Black Baptist church and struggling somewhat because I come from a White Pentecostal background.... I'm not struggling with the church, I'm struggling with everything being in Eb. Bb. Ab etc. and how to incorporate the gospel chord styles. I learned to play with guitarists - so my strong keys are E, A, B (believe it or not).
Anyway - gordonk47 - there are some options for drums. I was going to recommend the Alesis Drum machine, because it sounds great. But you're right about programming it - it's a drag and it's hard to get a "real" drummer feel to the beats that you do program.
What I have used in the past (and had the best luck with) is a MiniDisc player that I would record real drum loops into. I would record track 1 to be the first song, track 2 for the second song and so on. I would record a 4 beat count-in click then follow it with a loop of the drum pattern. Then I just had to hit FF button to the next song then hit play. Worked great.
The problem with a drum machine is that you have to call up pattern number THEN set the tempo and make sure it's set on the right "kit" then hit start - you know the routine. BUT if you hit one wrong button (pattern, song, tempo) you're in serious trouble - this will usually happen in front of the whole church (and it has).... aarrrrgghh!
So anyway, I used real drum loops, recorded into my MiniDisc player. If the song is 3 minutes long I would record 5 or 6 minutes of the drum loop just to be sure I had enough.
http://www.betamonkeymusic.com/
Has some real good deals.
Also SuperLoops if you buy it on eBay you will get a good deal. SuperLoops sounds more punchy, BetaMonkey has tighter grooves. Each CD will give you hundreds of grooves to choose from and you can usually find what you want with 2 or 3 CD’s
The downside to using a MiniDisc playback is that there is no way to put in fills.
You could also output the loops into a WAV file and burn a CD then play it back with a portable CD player. This would be less expensive than buying a MiniDisc recorder.
I used Zero-X (software) to set up the drum loops but you could also use CoolEdit, or a variety of other audio edit progs. Then I plugged my Minidisc recorder into the soundcard and recorded the drum loop playing over and over.
The drum machine that I had the best luck with was a BOSS Dr. Rhythm DR-770 because you could set up the footswitch to retrigger to the beginning of the pattern. So when the choir got off tempo, I could retrigger the drum machine to get back in synch with the choir.
If you get a drum machine make sure it has GM (General MIDI) mapping. The Alesis does NOT have this, but you can program it (sort of) to accept GM patterns (kind of). There are a ton of MIDI drum patterns on the Internet. If you want a program where all the beats are organized (and there are hundreds of beats) - laid out nicely and easy to find what you're looking for:
www.drumtrax.com
The DrumTrax beats are a little dated (like 1980) and you're not gong to find anything exotic on that prog. But is is easy to locate the patterns with.
You should be able to download some WAV drum loops for free, run them through some looping software and output a WAV file to burn to a CD (all for free) and see if this set-up will work for you before you spend any money on something that's not going to do what you want.
Hope this helps and God Bless,
Ashton
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I have an alesis qs8.2.
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I want to get a CASIO WK3700, i keep hearing how nice it is.
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S90 motiff
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I have a Motif Classic 61.
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I have Triton Pro 76 key and Triton Studio...
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How would you all rate a yamaha DGX 205?[/size] I know that it is not the best keyboard out there, but give me a break...I'm a broke college student.
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How would you all rate a yamaha DGX 205?[/size] I know that it is not the best keyboard out there, but give me a break...I'm a broke college student.
From a 1 being the poor performance keyboard, to a 10 being top of its class.
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Yamaha DGX 202!
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How would you all rate a yamaha DGX 205?I know that it is not the best keyboard out there, but give me a break...I'm a broke college student.
From a 1 being the poor performance keyboard, to a 10 being top of its class.
A musician at church just bought a CASIO WK 3500, which is the same price as the DGX 205. He can't believe how good the CASIO WK 3500 is (now mind you he always hated casio). Some fear the CASIO franchise of keyboards, however, this musician says that CASIO did a really good job with WK 3500. He told me it was really great to have at home.
Also do a google search and do a search for DGX 205 review, or keyboard reviews.
God Bless
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The Yamaha DGX line has some great sounds but I like more keys than the 202 offers... But is a very decent board dont be ashamed of it!!!
Me personally I own Casio WK1800 & WK3200, Roland EP9, and a Motif RackES.
I'm gonna try to sell the ES rack and get a Motif 8 keyboard, I think.
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bigtforreal"I want to get a CASIO WK3700, i keep hearing how nice it is
I just got the Casio WK3700 and it is awesome in a lot of ways- the organ sounds on it are fantastic, and the key action is similar to an organ- the keys are touch-senstive but they are not weighted. I like that about it. Plus you can't beat the price. The piano sounds are just okay. Some of the strings patches sound really real...plus it has the "Leslie" wheel that you can use for vibrato and stuff...it's a lot of fun.
The church has a nice Kawai ES1, only about 8 different sounds on it, but the key touch is really nice for piano, and I think it sounds great. Of course some people only like a "real" piano...but get real... l like to know I'm in tune.
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bigtforreal"I want to get a CASIO WK3700, i keep hearing how nice it is
I just got the Casio WK3700 and it is awesome in a lot of ways- the organ sounds on it are fantastic, and the key action is similar to an organ- the keys are touch-senstive but they are not weighted. I like that about it. Plus you can't beat the price. The piano sounds are just okay. Some of the strings patches sound really real...plus it has the "Leslie" wheel that you can use for vibrato and stuff...it's a lot of fun.
The church has a nice Kawai ES1, only about 8 different sounds on it, but the key touch is really nice for piano, and I think it sounds great. Of course some people only like a "real" piano...but get real... l like to know I'm in tune.
That's good to know, because I'm about 85% sure I will get a Casio WK3500 or Casio 3700 now.
I'm not a professional or advanced player, nor do I make music, so if
CASIO came up like everybody say it has, I'm going to get it. I plan to go to the stores and try it soon.
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bigtforreal"I want to get a CASIO WK3700, i keep hearing how nice it is
I just got the Casio WK3700 and it is awesome in a lot of ways- the organ sounds on it are fantastic, and the key action is similar to an organ- the keys are touch-senstive but they are not weighted. I like that about it. Plus you can't beat the price. The piano sounds are just okay. Some of the strings patches sound really real...plus it has the "Leslie" wheel that you can use for vibrato and stuff...it's a lot of fun.
The church has a nice Kawai ES1, only about 8 different sounds on it, but the key touch is really nice for piano, and I think it sounds great. Of course some people only like a "real" piano...but get real... l like to know I'm in tune.
That's good to know, because I'm about 85% sure I will get a Casio WK3500 or Casio 3700 now.
I'm not a professional or advanced player, nor do I make music, so if
CASIO came up like everybody say it has, I'm going to get it. I plan to go to the stores and try it soon.
Just 85%!? :D
If you're not buying a Roland Fantom, a Triton or Motif you gotta have a Casio... :P
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If I can get a nice Yamaha for cheap s90 or a roland, I would get it before a CASIO. However, you can't beat paying $250 dollars on that CASIO WK 3200 (or at least what I"m hearing).
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Mine is a Yamaha PSR 2000
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roland rd700
roland phantom 76
jlewis
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One musician told me that the Phantom has a better quality of sound than the Motif...is that true? In you all's opinion which is the better workstation keyboard.
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Hey guyys... my gear is as follows:
Roland XP-80
Triton Le 76
Motif ES 7
Motif Rack
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ShadowPhace,
You are going to get a million of opinions to your questions. Truth be told,
I got a great deal on the phantom (its not the extreme version) and For the amount of production that I actually do, its way more than what I need. As far as Roland is considered, I liked the "feel" of the keyboard. I wanted something with a real piano feel to it and the roland keys are a little heavier than some of the others (like yamaha or motif) which is what I wanted ( and why I bought the rd700). I mean the patches that I use most often (there can't be more than 8) were present on all models so I started looking at other factors.
Same thing for the phantom. From a sequencing standpoint, the features that I use the most were present on all models so I went with price (and like I said I got a great deal on the phantom 76).
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I have a crappy yamaha that only cost about $150. BUT, I'm about to step my game up big time and get either the Fantom X or the Triton Extreme. As far as he great Fantom/Motif Debate goes, It is too close to call. They both have sounds that are VERY similar. Both are great for producing and things like that so i guess it comes down to the feel that you want. he only real reason that i am going with Roland an Korg is because I hate the fact that amaha has that vertical pitch bend on the left.
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Hi,
I have a Yamaha PSR-275... I know what your gonna say, if you know it. But I am actually looking at getting another keyboard a Yamaha Motif series; however I am unsure as which one to get, the Motif ES 6, 7 or 8.
Can someone who has any of the Yamaha Motif series post back and help me make a decision.
Thanks
PianoWiz...
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I gotta few...
Motif ES7
Korg Triton Extreme
Nord Electro 2
Yamaha EX7
Korg M1
Yamaha DX7...oh yea
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I have a Kurzweil K2600 w/128Meg, 250MB Zip drive.
does everything i could want a keyboard to do.
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hi i am looking for a keyboard for a young and growing church that has no professional musicians. I was surfing the web and i came across Yamaha PSR 3000,2100 and the Tyros, I like them the only problem is they have 61 keys and am looking for keyboard with more keys, the main thing i want is keyboard that has mic input and harmonizer. please help.I have also wanted to know what voice musicians use when playing gospel music .i have a Yamaha PSR225GM and the closest i can get to that voice is DX E.P so for all you great musicians out there help a young upcoming musician and it will be greatly appreciated
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I have an alesis qs7 for sale (76key) check out the details in I think the gospel keyboard forum look for Alesis Qs7 for sale cheap
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I currently have a ES7. me and my brother play keyboard so we share.
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yes.. I have a grand Casio k60.. yep! learning all I can.. I will get a better keyboard later... would taking a keyboard class at a college to educate me more .. or is it a waste of time. I am trying to learn from manual.. and what does a midi do or what is it used for?
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My "vintage stuff" is nice:
Hammond C3 w/ 2 Leslies
Fender Rhodes 73
Hohner Clavinet
Moog Synthesizer (it's a smaller version than the Mini-Moog but the same sound!)
My my "newer stuff" is pretty old and unimpressive:
Roland XP-10
Alesis QS7
I dont like the Alesis, and I'd sell it, except I dont think I'd get enough for it to be satisfied. I still use the XP-10 for any church gig that doesnt provide an organ or keyboard, and/or for any gig there isnt a bass player. I have some nice bass patches programmed.
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I have a Roland Fantom X8. Amazing keyboard. All of the patches are great except for the organ patches.
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I have a Roland Fantom X8. Amazing keyboard. All of the patches are great except for the organ patches.
What is wrong with the Phantom's organ pitches that you don't like? Is it that it does not reflect a real organ sound? I was thinking about getting Phantom X8 after I graduate from college.
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bigtforreal,
I hope to step my game up too. I want buy either a Phantom or Motif(ES6 or ES8), but that will all happen in the future after college. Not to hate on Motif players, but I leaning towards the Phantom because of the feeling. Does anyone know any Phantom dealers or how I could purchase a Phantom?
May God bless your talent and use it for the glory of the Lord.
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bigtforreal,
I hope to step my game up too. I want buy either a Phantom or Motif(ES6 or ES8), but that will all happen in the future after college. Not to hate on Motif players, but I leaning towards the Phantom because of the feeling. Does anyone know any Phantom dealers or how I could purchase a Phantom?
May God bless your talent and use it for the glory of the Lord.
Man, I love the Phantom, I just wasn't paying more than a G for a keyboard. Motif is nice though, I love the Phantom a little more, I guess because it's more user friendly, and I'm into making hiphop beats, so I think the PHantom is "IT" when it comes to making hip hop sounds.
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Yamaha Motif es8. It's amazing!
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Yamaha Motif es8.
Bbbbooooooooooo!!!! :)
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why do you say that?
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I think that.....while it has alost of sounds and stuff....its complicated to use. Just my opinion. I like the Fantom X more.
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Hey Folks,
I'm new here to LGM. I play keys at my church as well as for a variety show here in eastern NC called the American Music Jubilee. Check out our website at www.amjubilee.com.
I have several keyboards that I use regularly. Our church just bought a Motif ES8 to use along side our Kohler baby grand. My practice keyboard here at home is Yamaha P-60. Quite a nice entry level keyboard. Not many sounds onboard, but the Piano and EP sounds are amazing. On stage at the theater, my main board is a Korg Triton Studio 88 that I've loaded with PCM boards 01 - Pianos/Classic Keyboards, and 06/07 Orchestral Collection. On top of that I have a Roland VR-760 expanded with SRX07 - Ultimate Keys and SRX10 - Big Brass Ensemble.
Feel free to ask any questions about these boards. I've had alot of people ask about the VR-760. It seems that alot of people know of this board, but not many people use one or have played one. Ill be happy to help anyone in any way I can. I've already got some great help from some of the posts that I've read. Thanks for providing musicians with a very informative forum.
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I have a C3 with the coveted 771 leslie, a casio keyboard and a Triton Le88
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Sorry it took so long for me to reply.
The organ sounds on the phantom are okay. They all sound okay, but I've had a couple of experiences with a Korg and I personally like some of its patches better. But like stated above, when it comes to everything else, the fantom is #1.