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Title: terry wesley[mint condition]
Post by: pep1000 on January 19, 2006, 10:56:15 PM
greetings drummers in christ :D this is my first "real" post so excuse
the typing errors. :wink: does anyone know any history on terry wesley
i've seen this dude with mint condition and i almost fainted!
Title: Re: terry wesley[mint condition]
Post by: bigblackdrummer on January 19, 2006, 11:03:24 PM
Quote from: pep1000
greetings drummers in christ :D this is my first "real" post so excuse
the typing errors. :wink: does anyone know any history on terry wesley
i've seen this dude with mint condition and i almost fainted!


Really! Im so used to Stokly and Chris Dave`s playing I think Terry Wesley plays like a punk! :!:
Title: terry wesley[mint condition]
Post by: SabianKnight on January 19, 2006, 11:51:06 PM
BBD explain please... What didn't you like about his playing? Just curious.
Title: Re: terry wesley[mint condition]
Post by: Zelevo on January 20, 2006, 04:47:51 AM
Quote from: bigblackdrummer
Quote from: pep1000
greetings drummers in christ :D this is my first "real" post so excuse
the typing errors. :wink: does anyone know any history on terry wesley
i've seen this dude with mint condition and i almost fainted!


Really! Im so used to Stokly and Chris Dave`s playing I think Terry Wesley plays like a punk! :!:


BBD - Are you just that funny or Serious !!!
Title: terry wesley[mint condition]
Post by: bigblackdrummer on January 20, 2006, 06:48:04 AM
Im serious. Stokley and Chris always brought something to the table where you couldnt wait to see what they pulled out, MOSTLY Stokly! Out of Stokley and Chris, Stokly is the man!!!! He is so under rated its not funny! All the signature drum licks off the Mint cds are Stokly. When I listen to Terry he isnt any of that. I find that the songs dont have the same flair and drive with him live....Chris live was wow!!!!  :roll:
Title: terry wesley[mint condition]
Post by: Metronome on January 20, 2006, 07:20:26 AM
I'm feelin bbd on that one.  He is out there doin his thing, but he just doesn't impress me.  What makes a drummer hot is his unique style.  Terry wesley is good, he just isn't all that different to make himself stand out.  Every city has a guy who plays that style, if not more.  I'm not knockin him its just that he sounds just like a lot of people I know and that I've heard.
Title: terry wesley[mint condition]
Post by: beantownborn on January 20, 2006, 07:42:24 AM
Does anyone have any video clips of Stokely playing drums?
Title: terry wesley[mint condition]
Post by: Zelevo on January 20, 2006, 07:45:56 AM
mmm !!! I see your point.

I feel Terry hands are tied though. Mint would not allow him to impose his signature on their sound.  Most of the time stand-in drummers are restricted as what they can do.

They are just Called in to do a Job, hold the groove, keep the ship steady with the timming, nothing too fancy with the fills and rolls

With stockley and  Chris Dave there is a lot of history as you said.
Title: terry wesley[mint condition]
Post by: hendoo on January 20, 2006, 08:44:05 AM
BBD, I knpw Terry isn't Daddy Dave or Stokely, but when he came here to D.C's 9:30 club, he RIPPED IT!!!!!!!
Title: terry wesley[mint condition]
Post by: bigblackdrummer on January 20, 2006, 08:51:33 AM
Quote from: Zelevo
mmm !!! I see your point.

I feel Terry hands are tied though. Mint would not allow him to impose his signature on their sound.  Most of the time stand-in drummers are restricted as what they can do.

They are just Called in to do a Job, hold the groove, keep the ship steady with the timming, nothing too fancy with the fills and rolls

With stockley and  Chris Dave there is a lot of history as you said.


I dont agree with you on Terrys hands are tied. I can see why they would all of a sudden go that way....I think he just plays that way.
Title: terry wesley[mint condition]
Post by: Seven on January 20, 2006, 08:55:44 AM
I believe I have an old clip where Stokely was playing for Sounds of Blackness back in the day.  But I have some audio of Chris and Stokely playing together.  But when I get home I'll work on up loading that for you guys(LGM Family) to check out.


Seven
Title: terry wesley[mint condition]
Post by: Seven on January 20, 2006, 09:00:24 AM
Man this is weird, but I Think is a good Drummer.  I believe he might be the right drummer for Mint, but he is a good Drummer.  I could been in his shoes because of the pressure.


Seven,
Title: terry wesley[mint condition]
Post by: hendoo on January 20, 2006, 09:00:54 AM
Hey Seven I'll be waiting!!!!!!! Thanks
Title: terry wesley[mint condition]
Post by: Butta on January 20, 2006, 09:03:35 AM
So let me get this straight bbd.  You didn’t like Terry cuz he didn’t affect you like Chris & Stokley? OK…what else were you expecting from him other than doin his job?  Besides, dude got the gig. I think we all should remember that when we decide to criticize (pass judgment on), What are we doing? Where are we going?  Where are we at? Point being, Terry must be doing something right, he has the gig.  Although I respect your comment,(U like who U like..) but to say he played like a punk is a very strong statement.  

I wonder when Terry was blessed with that gig , I wonder if God thought he played like a punk?  You mentioned 3 different kats.  And let’s not forget, a younger Chris spent a lot of time with Stokley.  It’s comments like these that makes me wonder about the hearts, minds, & spirits of some Gospel Drummers…Drummers period. :?  :?

Personally, I feel Terry has a lot more to say…..juz u wait N c :wink:
Title: terry wesley[mint condition]
Post by: Seven on January 20, 2006, 09:08:35 AM
Quote from: Butta
So let me get this straight bbd.  You didn’t like Terry cuz he didn’t affect you like Chris & Stokley? OK…what else were you expecting from him other than doin his job?  Besides, dude got the gig. I think we all should remember that when we decide to criticize (pass judgment on), What are we doing? Where are we going?  Where are we at? Point being, Terry must be doing something right, he has the gig.  Although I respect your comment,(U like who U like..) but to say he played like a punk is a very strong statement.  

I wonder when Terry was blessed with that gig , I wonder if God thought he played like a punk?  You mentioned 3 different kats.  And let’s not forget, a younger Chris spent a lot of time with Stokley.  It’s comments like these that makes me wonder about the hearts, minds, & spirits of some Gospel Drummers…Drummers period. :?  :?

Personally, I feel Terry has a lot more to say…..juz u wait N c :wink:


Yo man thats deep,  I see what your saying, because forum is here to uplift not to tear down.  

Seven,
Title: terry wesley[mint condition]
Post by: hendoo on January 20, 2006, 09:13:38 AM
I'm with you Seven we all should uplift every drummer, just remember when you weren't always good, Encouragement is a lovely thing
Title: terry wesley[mint condition]
Post by: Zelevo on January 20, 2006, 09:16:06 AM
Thats fine BBD - But for Mint to ask for his services means he is a safe pair of hands. I personally like the way he plays.He does draw too much attention to himself  but lets everyone shine when he is playing
Title: terry wesley[mint condition]
Post by: whatpocket on January 20, 2006, 11:34:49 AM
Hey let me say this. I know Terry Personally. And I'm not on her to be all "hanging" or nothing. But the dude is a beast. Me personally I agree with BBD as far as not being overwelmed by the DVD that came with the cd. but Most of yall dont know the Gig was like one of the first with mint. It was recorded last January. A year ago. His hands were tied beleive me. When he comes out he comes out!! that dude studies everything. And unlike most of us Gospel Drummers. He knows everything he plays dude reads everything. BBD I guarantee if you sit and shed with the dude you will change your whole perspective on the dude. But let me say this. Wait until you hear the next live gig he plays with Mint. then state your opinion. I meant honestly with Stokley being as good as he is he would not fill Chris Dave or his own shoes with no "PUNK" But you will always hear the same licks more than once. Everything we hear that we never heard someone has done. That Mint Condition DVD showed me how discipline he is. Not out there trying to give it all he got. But The Full DVD will be out in Feb. You will see alot more trust. But I'm not the one to hate on another brother none. I mean there are alot of cats playing for big artist that i dont like on a personal level and their playing. But you wont catch me on here hating.
Title: terry wesley[mint condition]
Post by: whatpocket on January 20, 2006, 11:39:41 AM
And BBD I have no problem with you or post. 1 cause i dont know you. But 2 I respect yours and everyone elses opinion. " EVEN KEEPINITREAL" LOL> Cause I would want the same from everyone else on LGM. Opinion is Opinion. if it wasnt for Martin Luther The King we would be able to express our opinion. LOL
Title: terry wesley[mint condition]
Post by: flamtapz on January 20, 2006, 11:42:36 AM
no one will ever fill chris' shoes point blank, i met terry wen mint came to richmond he madd cool but yea he didnt do nutn 2 make me wig out...stokely is amzin btw..wen they did tha duet stokley BURNT terry lol but ay search for him on google or sumn
Title: terry wesley[mint condition]
Post by: baggettcindy on January 20, 2006, 01:03:03 PM
Terry went to my dad's church in Las Vegas....Mountain Top Faith Ministries...Clinton House (pastor).  I always thought he was a good drummer.  My dad said he was touring, but didn't know the name of the group.
Title: terry wesley[mint condition]
Post by: hendoo on January 20, 2006, 01:39:26 PM
There's always somebody bettter than you, look @ Ricky Lawson, to the average young drummer caught up with flashy chops every 8 bars, he's wack, but to veterans he's a legend, playing poised & he has wonderful pocket, as John Blackwell said, when playing for Cameo back in the day, he was doing all kind of fast chops & they FIRED HIM, Listening & Pocket will always outlast fast chops
Title: terry wesley[mint condition]
Post by: pep1000 on January 20, 2006, 02:20:46 PM
i've seen mint at least 4times within the last year in d.c
 and trust me, on some nights he got more appluse from the drummers in
the crowd than stokely, and i dont think stoke was holdin back :idea:
Title: terry wesley[mint condition]
Post by: DrummieSyd on January 20, 2006, 04:21:50 PM
Quote from: Butta
So let me get this straight bbd.  You didn’t like Terry cuz he didn’t affect you like Chris & Stokley? OK…what else were you expecting from him other than doin his job?  Besides, dude got the gig. I think we all should remember that when we decide to criticize (pass judgment on), What are we doing? Where are we going?  Where are we at? Point being, Terry must be doing something right, he has the gig.  Although I respect your comment,(U like who U like..) but to say he played like a punk is a very strong statement.  

I wonder when Terry was blessed with that gig , I wonder if God thought he played like a punk?  You mentioned 3 different kats.  And let’s not forget, a younger Chris spent a lot of time with Stokley.  It’s comments like these that makes me wonder about the hearts, minds, & spirits of some Gospel Drummers…Drummers period. :?  :?


I feel you on those much needed comments!  I hate to other drummers hate on one another instead of listening and appreciating someone else excelling at our craft, love and passion.  Since being in LA for 3 months I hear a lot of that coming form church drummers.  The cats can play and have licks for days but they are not playing with no one but always talking about "blazing" someone.  I am blessed tp play with Nisan Stewart, Chris Johnson, Jubu Smith, Ethan Farmer & Damien Farmer, Gerald Haddon etc...and none of these cats have that mentality.  They appreciate other performaers and give credit where it is do and do not mind taking the time out to chill with the new cats on the scene out here like my-self.  

We have continue remembering we are all given talents and gives, how we use and apply them is on us and do not hate on those that are in "their season" to be dong there thing.  Theses cats that are being talked about on these gigs for a reason; they deserve to be there because they paid their dues and was appointed to be their by whomever the MD is and by God!


Personally, I feel Terry has a lot more to say…..juz u wait N c :wink:
Title: terry wesley[mint condition]
Post by: bigblackdrummer on January 21, 2006, 12:48:26 AM
Quote from: Butta
So let me get this straight bbd.  You didn’t like Terry cuz he didn’t affect you like Chris & Stokley? OK…what else were you expecting from him other than doin his job?  Besides, dude got the gig. I think we all should remember that when we decide to criticize (pass judgment on), What are we doing? Where are we going?  Where are we at? Point being, Terry must be doing something right, he has the gig.  Although I respect your comment,(U like who U like..) but to say he played like a punk is a very strong statement.  

I wonder when Terry was blessed with that gig , I wonder if God thought he played like a punk?  You mentioned 3 different kats.  And let’s not forget, a younger Chris spent a lot of time with Stokley.  It’s comments like these that makes me wonder about the hearts, minds, & spirits of some Gospel Drummers…Drummers period. :?  :?



Personally, I feel Terry has a lot more to say…..juz u wait N c :wink:


First off Butter or Butta whatever you call youself, I loved your comment "It’s comments like these that makes me wonder about the hearts, minds, & spirits of some Gospel Drummers…Drummers period. :?  :? " You are way worse for taking upon yourself to take the place of GOD and judge me for an opion I had in a CHAT ROOM!

And to answer your question NO I didnt like what I saw from Terry cause it WAS weak!!!!! Ive been a fan from the Pretty Brown Eyes to Sad Girl!!!!I have BET live to boot legs, EVERYONE knows mint condition is about the music and the drums!

Every drummer they had live killed it! Chris was not always there...Hmmmm how can I put it so you can understand? With him on drums its like the band went from driving a Hummer H2 to driving a GMC something..Ok not that bad but you get the point!

Please be leavin the judging to God and respect the opinons of others! I know if I asked your Mama if you smelt clean shed say NO!!!!! :(
Title: terry wesley[mint condition]
Post by: Drumworkshop on January 21, 2006, 12:48:34 AM
Terry's playing for Mint Condition NUFF SAID!!!

CASE CLOSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: terry wesley[mint condition]
Post by: bigblackdrummer on January 21, 2006, 01:02:48 AM
Quote from: whatpocket
And BBD I have no problem with you or post. 1 cause i dont know you. But 2 I respect yours and everyone elses opinion. " EVEN KEEPINITREAL" LOL> Cause I would want the same from everyone else on LGM. Opinion is Opinion. if it wasnt for Martin Luther The King we would be able to express our opinion. LOL


Man I tell ya, Thanks Man! Its 1 54 am here so just hang with me.....Having a negitave opion,  a thought, an idea or answer is not bad Every human has an opinion and in a place of learning and answers like this has the right to state them (with in reason)

Respect everyone in here even if you disagree or dont like the way it was said....AND STAY FROM JUDGING A PERSONS WALK BECAUSE HE DOES NOT AGREE WITH YOU! ITS LAME AND ONLY OLS FOLKS AND BUTTA DO THAT!!!!!!! :P
Title: terry wesley[mint condition]
Post by: KEEPINITREAL on January 21, 2006, 02:59:39 AM
i see somebody mentioned my name!! well for starters terry isn't the worst, is he right for mint, my opinion is no. he can play but, i don't think ya'll realize how big the shoes are he has to fill! as far as BBD is concerned, i'm worried about you! first you say you're going to start dressing like calvin (uhmm.....in clothes?) then you say stokley is better than chris!?!?!? uhmmm no, stokley is a beast don't get me wrong, but if you didn't know most of the ideas on the album as far as drums go, were brother dave's!! now it's cool to give opinions, but come on now!!! i still got love for you though.......
Title: terry wesley[mint condition]
Post by: bigblackdrummer on January 21, 2006, 07:04:42 AM
Quote from: KEEPINITREAL
i see somebody mentioned my name!! well for starters terry isn't the worst, is he right for mint, my opinion is no. he can play but, i don't think ya'll realize how big the shoes are he has to fill! as far as BBD is concerned, i'm worried about you! first you say you're going to start dressing like calvin (uhmm.....in clothes?) then you say stokley is better than chris!?!?!? uhmmm no, stokley is a beast don't get me wrong, but if you didn't know most of the ideas on the album as far as drums go, were brother dave's!! now it's cool to give opinions, but come on now!!! i still got love for you though.......


OKOK my Calvin dressing week was a week of confusion, my white Big Mo set me right! NOW GUY!!!!! We all know that Chris Dave can pistol whip Stokly. But on the Mint CD`s I like the way Stok plays over Chris, what Im not allowed to form my own opion :!:  :mrgreen:
Title: terry wesley[mint condition]
Post by: Butta on January 21, 2006, 08:29:38 AM
Calm down bbd. 1st off,  I may need to ask your mom to give you a hug.  I said I respect your comment dude.  If you read my post thoroughly you’ll see that.   I’m 1st in line for a Brotha speaking his mind the way he sees fit. And I ain’t mad at’cha….. I was speaking of context being a Gospel related board.  (“Like a punk“, referring to his playing , in my opinion, it was a lil strong.  Although your boldness for saying it is definitely respected. We need more soldiers like yourself (There, hope that makes it a lil better for you 8) ) If we were on the street or club, who knows, I might have concurred.   I’m Mint fan to. :wink:

And  judging  you? Where dude?  I said “wonder” God “knows” our hearts, minds & spirits.
This may be your way of telling Terry he needs to up his game? I don’t know, I can only wonder but God knows your heart, I don’t.   I’m entitled to my thoughts & opinions to.  I never said “you shouldn’t have made the comment” or “I’m goin to have it deleted“. Ol people do stuff like that.
Title: terry wesley[mint condition]
Post by: bigblackdrummer on January 21, 2006, 09:51:40 AM
Quote from: Butta
Calm down bbd. 1st off,  I may need to ask your mom to give you a hug.  I said I respect your comment dude.  If you read my post thoroughly you’ll see that.   I’m 1st in line for a Brotha speaking his mind the way he sees fit. And I ain’t mad at’cha….. I was speaking of context being a Gospel related board.  (“Like a punk“, referring to his playing , in my opinion, it was a lil strong.  Although your boldness for saying it is definitely respected. We need more soldiers like yourself (There, hope that makes it a lil better for you 8) ) If we were on the street or club, who knows, I might have concurred.   I’m Mint fan to. :wink:

And  judging  you? Where dude?  I said “wonder” God “knows” our hearts, minds & spirits.
This may be your way of telling Terry he needs to up his game? I don’t know, I can only wonder but God knows your heart, I don’t.   I’m entitled to my thoughts & opinions to.  I never said “you shouldn’t have made the comment” or “I’m goin to have it deleted“. Ol people do stuff like that.


No you said "It’s comments like these that makes me wonder about the hearts, minds, & spirits of some Gospel Drummers…Drummers period".

You were speaking about my post and trust me you dont have to worry about me my heart and spirit`s cool its my mind you need to run from :lol:
Title: terry wesley[mint condition]
Post by: KEEPINITREAL on January 21, 2006, 02:56:27 PM
LOL YA'LL FUNNY!!!!!!
Title: terry wesley[mint condition]
Post by: flamtapz on January 22, 2006, 11:46:22 AM
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haha im happy... terry iz nice
Title: terry wesley[mint condition]
Post by: Da1witdastix on January 22, 2006, 08:22:37 PM
mike u a fool mann
Title: Get off Of Terry Wesley!!!!!!!
Post by: AmiGo on February 10, 2006, 10:54:38 AM
For those who don't know Terry Wesley, he's a church drummer straight out of Las Vegas, Nevada and has been the back up drummer for Mint Condition for about three years now. What you guys fail to understand and didn't mention is that Chris "Daddy" Dave plays  the studio tracks on Mints albums. But, Stokely does some tracks as well he's more vocals, keys and steel drums. As a matter of fact, Vater just signed Chris Dave for a endorsement on sticks and that was in the year of 2005, earlier in the year. But, everyone has their own opinion about certain things like what they think about the next person. Yah, might even say that I suck as a drummer and I need to practice more but, just as long as I get calls to go on tour iI won't change alot in my playing. Oh, and how do i know Terry? I played at his church in Vegas when i was on tour with the Occidental Inspirational Voices in 2004. But, get back at me and let me know what you guys think about everything now. Oh, and you should have seen the show at Valut 360 club in Long Beach. WOOOOOOOOOOO!!
Title: terry wesley[mint condition]
Post by: soulnomad on February 10, 2006, 11:17:21 AM
Terry wesley is a skilled trained musician and is doing what a true professinal does doing the job. Even Mint Condition gig has requirements and that is most likely to serve the music first and when the opportunity arises put your flava on it. There are a lot of skilled people out there all at at different levels and they all get the job done at those respective levels in most cases. I mean like Steve Jordan is as different from Steve Ferrone who is different from Steve Gadd, dennis Chambers to Ringo or Charlie Watts and from the simplest to the most complex they all do their thing. Anther example if you don't get it is, I pyed for randy brecker of The Brecker Bros. and i am be no means dennis Chambers or Petwer Erskine but I got hired for a reason. I did what asked and it was appreciated and respected. You know what they say about opinions...Everybody has one and ...anyway this I my view but I will add I respect the rights of those to voice their opinion but  this supposedly isn't the place where we should be so judgemental. It's Learn Gospel Music. I think we are all blessed with some amzing talent so let's just share it and thank god for our blessings.
Title: Re: Get off Of Terry Wesley!!!!!!!
Post by: SabianKnight on February 10, 2006, 11:20:03 AM
Quote from: AmiGo
For those who don't know Terry Wesley, he's a church drummer straight out of Las Vegas, Nevada and has been the back up drummer for Mint Condition for about three years now. What you guys fail to understand and didn't mention is that Chris "Daddy" Dave plays  the studio tracks on Mints albums. But, Stokely does some tracks as well he's more vocals, keys and steel drums. As a matter of fact, Vater just signed Chris Dave for a endorsement on sticks and that was in the year of 2005, earlier in the year. But, everyone has their own opinion about certain things like what they think about the next person. Yah, might even say that I suck as a drummer and I need to practice more but, just as long as I get calls to go on tour iI won't change alot in my playing. Oh, and how do i know Terry? I played at his church in Vegas when i was on tour with the Occidental Inspirational Voices in 2004. But, get back at me and let me know what you guys think about everything now. Oh, and you should have seen the show at Valut 360 club in Long Beach. WOOOOOOOOOOO!!


Welcome to LGM.

Most of us have already covered the facts of Stokley doing tracks (the original drummer), Chris Dave working stage and studio (*since Diary of A Band), his Vater endorsement etc.

Yes, opinions do fly around hear.... lots of youth and growing wisdom.

It's seems that there is another working drummer (you) in the ranks that can hopefully share som professional experiences.  I hope to learn something from you.

Search previous posts and enjoy.
Title: terry wesley[mint condition]
Post by: 2TallDrummer on February 10, 2006, 12:08:23 PM
I think everyone's point is well taken.  Whenever a group/band/choir comes out for the first time whether it's a new, CD, DVD, concert or whatever, we always have lasting impressions of what we saw first.  It's very hard to get over that.  Just as in life, first impressions are lasting.  I'll just run down a list of comparisions.

1.  Gerald Heyward on Hezekiah's "I"ll Make It" from 1986.  If Hez does 10 more CDs the drummers will always be compared to him no matter how good they are in their own regard, ie. Jeff Lesley, Jason Hendrickson.
2.  The Yellowjackets with Will Kennedy.  Marcus Baylor is good, BUT his style is different.  Does that mean he's not a good drummer, NO.
3.  Chick Corea's Electric Band with Dave Weckyl.  When Gary Novak came in, all I could think was, "He aint good like Dave".  But the fact was, he is a really good drummer.
4.  Milton Brunson and Thompson Community when they had Darius Brooks, Percy Bady, Richard Gibbs, Steve Huff, Al Willis, and Kevin Brunson.  To me that was the best choir band in the 80's and 90's.  When Milton came to DC and those guys weren't playing, it was like the whole concert was a let down.  But again, the guys they had filling in were good also.  Just not what we were used to.
5.  On Commissioned's recent Reunion DVD, they had Marvin McQuitty and Michael Williams playing.  Now, I know a lot of younger guys may think Marvin is off the chain, he is, but that's because you didn't see Michael playing in 1985-1992 when Commissioned was the hottest thing out and he was in his prime.

I think we forget that drummers eventually outlive their prime.  It doesn't mean they can't play, it just means their playing has changed.  Steve Gadd is a great player, but he is past his prime.

It's very rare that musicians, singers, etc. that come in after the originals supercede their popularity and notoreity.  Whether or not those coming after are in fact better musicians.

We all have our favorites and opinions, but if we continue to negate what someone is currently doing based on the past, we will miss out on a lot.  

The same can be said about preachers:  Who's the Best?  Is it TD Jakes, Noel Jones, Eddie Long, Creflo Dollar, Myles Monroe, Jamaal Harrison Bryant.  Get my point?  They're all good in their own right.
Title: terry wesley[mint condition]
Post by: soulnomad on February 10, 2006, 01:43:24 PM
Quote from: soulnomad
Terry wesley is a skilled trained musician and is doing what a true professinal does doing the job. Even Mint Condition gig has requirements and that is most likely to serve the music first and when the opportunity arises put your flava on it. There are a lot of skilled people out there all at at different levels and they all get the job done at those respective levels in most cases. I mean like Steve Jordan is as different from Steve Ferrone who is different from Steve Gadd, dennis Chambers to Ringo or Charlie Watts and from the simplest to the most complex they all do their thing. Anther example if you don't get it is, I pyed for randy brecker of The Brecker Bros. and i am be no means Dennis Chambers or Peter Erskine but I got hired for a reason. I did what asked and it was appreciated and respected. You know what they say about opinions...Everybody has one and ...anyway this I my view but I will add I respect the rights of those to voice their opinion but  this supposedly isn't the place where we should be so judgemental. It's Learn Gospel Music. I think we are all blessed with some amzing talent so let's just share it and thank god for our blessings.

sorry for the mispells.
Title: Re: terry wesley[mint condition]
Post by: pianoboi06 on March 20, 2006, 12:22:41 PM
So let me get this straight bbd.  You didn’t like Terry cuz he didn’t affect you like Chris & Stokley? OK…what else were you expecting from him other than doin his job?  Besides, dude got the gig. I think we all should remember that when we decide to criticize (pass judgment on), What are we doing? Where are we going?  Where are we at? Point being, Terry must be doing something right, he has the gig.  Although I respect your comment,(U like who U like..) but to say he played like a punk is a very strong statement.  

I wonder when Terry was blessed with that gig , I wonder if God thought he played like a punk?  You mentioned 3 different kats.  And let’s not forget, a younger Chris spent a lot of time with Stokley.  It’s comments like these that makes me wonder about the hearts, minds, & spirits of some Gospel Drummers…Drummers period. :?  :?

Personally, I feel Terry has a lot more to say…..juz u wait N c :wink:
Man i totally agree, it was his time/ season and i think he filled those shoes perfectly!!!!!!! AMEN Brah
Title: Re: terry wesley[mint condition]
Post by: Drum-Docta on March 20, 2006, 06:08:52 PM
Terry is great but he dont hold nothing on Chris or Stokly.
Title: Re: terry wesley[mint condition]
Post by: MaestroDivine on March 20, 2006, 06:23:50 PM
Out of Stokley and Chris, Stokly is the man!!!!

Okay, fella - let's not get out of hand.  :P I think Stokley is very under-rated. HOWEVER, I can't agree with you on that one.
Title: Re: terry wesley[mint condition]
Post by: TheEvolution on March 20, 2006, 07:05:08 PM
My guy Michael Williams played the Live inDC DVD in guitar center for me. Me Personally, I liked Terry Wesley. He was truly in the pocket, and he played the songs with a lot of clarity (note: he was also playing with time to a drum machine......many of us cant do that) I dont see what makes Terry Wesley weak.........weak in my definition would be trying to do a crazy lick and throwing the whole band off. I give any drummer who has a solid foundation with the groove a A+.......
Title: Re: terry wesley[mint condition]
Post by: eastside on March 20, 2006, 08:44:29 PM
This is to all. Stokly is a BEAST!!!!!!!! I see him play locally here in MPLS every Tuesday nite and it's truely incredible! The dude's timing is............nutzzzz. I will get it on video for ya'll all to see!
Take my word for it, Chris and him are running neck and neck!!!!!!! :)
Title: Re: terry wesley[mint condition]
Post by: MaestroDivine on March 20, 2006, 09:04:28 PM
This is to all. Stokly is a BEAST!!!!!!!! I see him play locally here in MPLS every Tuesday nite and it's truely incredible! The dude's timing is............nutzzzz. I will get it on video for ya'll all to see!
Take my word for it, Chris and him are running neck and neck!!!!!!! :)

I won't believe that 'til I see it. I'm not taking anything from Stokley ... but the full extent of Chris Dave's greatness has yet to be witnessed by most. If Stokley is playing like THAT - then I'd be completely surprised.
Title: Re: terry wesley[mint condition]
Post by: SabianKnight on March 21, 2006, 12:40:17 AM
I won't believe that 'til I see it. I'm not taking anything from Stokley ... but the full extent of Chris Dave's greatness has yet to be witnessed by most. If Stokley is playing like THAT - then I'd be completely surprised.


Stokley is sick bruh. And he had Michael Bland before Chris.
Title: Re: terry wesley[mint condition]
Post by: MaestroDivine on March 21, 2006, 02:12:52 AM
Stokley is sick bruh. And he had Michael Bland before Chris.

Sabe, I am not denying that Stokley is mean on the kit. However, when I see Stokley trade 4's with Dennis Chambers for 45 minutes, and push Dennis to the limit of his capabilities(You'd have to see it to believe it), then I'll give him the same level of respect.

Their is sick. Then their is SICK.

You guys had best believe Chris Dave had to really show me something, for him to be my favorite drummer. Sure, I'm biased - but I used to be a person who thought Chris Dave was "alright" ... until started to see exclusive footage, that tooooooootally changed my opinion of him.

How did he achieve this level of stupidity?

I'm reminded of a shout out to Chris Dave in a old Mint Condition cd Booklet...

"To Chris Dave: Boy, PLEASE quit practicing!"

~OD
Title: Re: terry wesley[mint condition]
Post by: SabianKnight on March 21, 2006, 11:14:13 AM
Sabe, I am not denying that Stokley is mean on the kit. However, when I see Stokley trade 4's with Dennis Chambers for 45 minutes, and push Dennis to the limit of his capabilities(You'd have to see it to believe it), then I'll give him the same level of respect.

Their is sick. Then their is SICK.

You guys had best believe Chris Dave had to really show me something, for him to be my favorite drummer. Sure, I'm biased - but I used to be a person who thought Chris Dave was "alright" ... until started to see exclusive footage, that tooooooootally changed my opinion of him.

How did he achieve this level of stupidity?

I'm reminded of a shout out to Chris Dave in a old Mint Condition cd Booklet...

"To Chris Dave: Boy, PLEASE quit practicing!"

~OD

I feel ya bruh.
Title: Re: terry wesley[mint condition]
Post by: BIGBILL on March 21, 2006, 11:25:09 AM


Really! Im so used to Stokly and Chris Dave`s playing I think Terry Wesley plays like a punk! :!:

That's not right! How u gon dawg that bra like that yo!