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Gospel Instruments => Organ Room => Topic started by: Loopy on January 24, 2006, 02:54:38 PM
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I'm not an organ expert (yet), bit I was wondering for you B3 organists out there, has any of you played or have one of the "new" B3's? If so, does it live up to the classic B3?
Also has any of you heard of the new Hammond B3 Ultimo organ that is to be released on January 27th? It looks very interesting!
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Luckily I got to experience the feel of the new hammond portable b3 organ because a church here in Louisville bought one and had a workshop featuring Aaron Thomas play and then let everyone there play. It so smooth and just great. There is so much you can do with it.
Heres a link to see it: http://www.xb3.net/b3/portable/index.htm
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Luckily I got to experience the feel of the new hammond portable b3 organ because a church here in Louisville bought one and had a workshop featuring Aaron Thomas play and then let everyone there play. It so smooth and just great. There is so much you can do with it.
Heres a link to see it: [url]http://www.xb3.net/b3/portable/index.htm[/url]
Where can you purchase one of these Hammond B3 Portables? How much is it approximately? My church is looking to buy a hammond, but we have space constraints. Please point me in the right direction for this. Thanks!
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Well here in Louisville, Ky we live next door to a hammond organ shop and they said orginaly its about $14,999.00 but they said they would give it to us for a cheaper cost because we have helped them out with sales alot. But I think its worth the cost because if you go to this site it explains entirly what it does. Here it is... http://www.xb3.net/b3/portable/
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I have played the New B3...not the portable one, but the full blown New B3...and I did not like it. It just didnt have that authentic sound. If I were to get any new organ other than an old tone-wheel, it would most definately be a Diversi Organ. The new B3 is like they tried too hard to re-create it, but failed miserably
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There are 2 newer B-3 organs out there. there is the XB-3 and the "New" B-3. Th XB-3, I think, doesnt live up to Traditional standards. Every year at our state congress, they rent it. if you have no background in music it might sound the same as any other. It has a control board right on the leslie switch side and has a pitch bend. Now the "New" B-3 is a different story. it is just as smooth and has great tone quality. only and the Hammond makers themselves can distinguish the difference. i played on one of these at our National Convention in Detroit a couple years back. it has an optional control center and it is hidden. no pitch bend and has the traditonal leslie switch not that crappy three way.
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i forgot about the B-3P. I haven't had a chance to play on it or see it but i probably will at our National Convention this year.
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Hey Kids,
Stop fooling yourselves. Anyone with ears can hear the difference between the original B-3 and the "New" B-3, especially in the higher drawbars (4'-1') You just don't get all of the warmth from the digital instruments. Don't even get me started on the XB-3. I can get the same sound from my Yamaha Motif ES. It's nice if you are only interested in having something new. Most of the seasoned musicians that I know prefer the original Hammonds (pre-Suzuki). The new digital models just don't have the same sound in the extremities (i.e. bass and treble). Hammond-Suzuki did, however do a decent job of recreating the mid-range, which is good for those of you that play "in the box." But I like to make use of the full range of the instrument, and the upper and lower extremities left me wanting more...Long life the TONEWHEEL!!! It may require service every 3 months and cost an arm and a leg to maintain, but everytime I sit down at my 37 year-old C-3 in the sanctuary or my 23 year-old B-3 in our Vision Center, I know that it is worth every penny.
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How do you have a 23 yr old B-3??
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I have been playing the new B# for going on two years now my church bought the new b3 two months after I got there because I refused the c2 they had so they bought the New b3 in march of 2004
I like it but I notice a few things
You cant really get that key click dirty sound that some really good B3's have
second The percussion is kind of weak on the new b3 its touch sensitive which is really strange on an organ
a nice thing about the b3 is you can midi all three manuals the pedal board can be assigned to a thump bass and the swell a piano and the other one a horn I did this with brigher day and it was hot because you heard the organ sound and at the same time you heard the other parts as well
I only did it that one time though
a draw back to this organ is how the pedal board is set they use leaf springs or what ever they are and they get weak after a while and sag and when they sag the pedal sounds and you cant play any other pedals because the saggy one is sounding
what I did was put a drum felt from a hi hat under the pedal and that has worked now for a few weeks
until I get the repair man over
pound for pound if you have to choose I say go with the tone whell variety just for cost and convenience you can find b3 out there for about 3000-5-000
to me the new b3 is fine at least it sounds better then a less than perfect tone wheel b3
For those of you who cant transpose it has transposing ability and a cd burner to recoud your stunning performances
so it has its advantages you can also set a lot of parameters from the control panel under the organ
I dont get into all that stuff though so to me my church wasted a lot of money buying this I would have liked any organ with a good leslie
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Somebody said diversi......... U cant top that its the best
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I second that emotion about the Diversi Organ. Nothing comes closer to a vintage tonewheel organ than this instrument IMO.
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OK, Firstly, I have a HAMMOND X77 Jazzmaster and C3 with vintage 910 Leslie. BUT THEY ARE TOO HEAVY!!!!!. So I built the ultimate MIDI (PC) based system. After TWO YEARS of trial and error, I must say that the New Native Instruments B4 (SERIES 2) is far and away the VINTAGE HAMMOND console organ sound DEAD ON! I heartily agree that all of the B3 wannabe hardware sounds like CRAP!. Don't get me started on the software organs...UGH!!! Finally NATIVE INSTRUMENTS in BERLIN perfected their B4 organ. WOW, what an improvement. It's even got a digital LESLIE...and REVERB to may you cry! Folks...I DON"T sell for a living...so this ain't no sales pitch. Check out the NATIVE INSTRUMENTS website, and download the B4 II demo. FYI, the software is only a few hundred bucks, and if you already own a midi keyboard and computer...your almost there!
Should anyone need help here, I'm yours for the asking.
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To make the New Hammond B3 sound like the original you have to crank the overdrive all the way up. Then Set the treble and bass tones half way.
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I thought the New B3 sounded a little too clean at first. It just didn't have that scream. Then when I cranked the overdrive I got what I was looking for. It is really a great sounding organ you just have to set it right
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I like it but I notice a few things
You cant really get that key click dirty sound that some really good B3's have
second The percussion is kind of weak on the new b3 its touch sensitive which is really strange on an organ
Now for a church application, a vintage organ in immaculate shape and a Leslie is the best way to go because the New B3 is way overpriced, and you can get a great vintage organ and Leslie for less than you can get a new one.
What I like about the new sound engine that is in the New B3, is that those parameters that you don't want to go into allow you to get a dirtier key click sound, or adjust the percussion sound to your liking, as well as other characteristics.
This is a major development because as we all know, no 2 vintage B3s sound alike. But they have gone and programmed the new one so that you can modify the characteristics of the sound so that it is way more flexilble in getting the sound one is looking for.
This was always my beef with the XB3, you were stuck with what you got, and all of them are exactly the same.
This is coming from someone who has two 1960s C3 organs(I'm not a rich man, the Lord blessed me).
For me, I'm always moving my rig around, so I'm more excited about the XK3. It shares the same sound engine as the New B3.
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C3 Chamby back up a minute
I think you were dropping something on us and I almost missed it are you telling me that i can set my percussion so that it is more pronounced
are those parameters you are talking about?
I am going to go to church and set this thing up
I have the manual but I never got into any of the settings other them set the presets to The jazz settings