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Main => Gospel Music Lounge => Topic started by: PROSTR8 on February 13, 2006, 01:06:28 PM
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If using TRANSPOSER buttons on KEYBOARDS and ORGANS are so frowned upon....why are they equipped with them?
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because man always wants to find the easy way out. The transpose button is not on a traditonla piano so you have no choice but to learn how to play in different keys. You would be so surprised at how many musicans that we debate about only know how to play in one key. What would we say if singers could only sing in one key we would say they are tone deaf but yeah transpose keys should only be used on tour nowhere else
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because man always wants to find the easy way out. The transpose button is not on a traditonla piano so you have no choice but to learn how to play in different keys. You would be so surprised at how many musicans that we debate about only know how to play in one key. What would we say if singers could only sing in one key we would say they are tone deaf but yeah transpose keys should only be used on tour nowhere else
Interesting!! Why do you feel that a tour is the only appropriate place to use the transpose button? I have notice in certain DVDs that the keyboard players are transposing. (And these guys are supposedly monsters)So what is it about being on a tour that makes it alright?
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Well, I am a beginner and am trying to learn songs and have to turn around and teach and play them. I learn the song in whatever key it's in, and I feel it's helping get a feel for all keys, but if it's a song that modulates then I do transpose for now just because I don't have the time I would like to practice a song in all keys. At some point in time I will be there though. Is that so bad?
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Transposers are the worst!!! I don't allow anyone to play with me using the transpose button. Even guys who are novice. I clown them to the point that they go home and practice. There are just some things you don't do. I have no idea why those companies put those buttons there. It enables musicians to become lazy.
There are certain keys where I am not strong mainly A, B and E. but, over the last year or so I have made a point to learn more about those keys. So, now I can get over in those keys but I won't stop until I am as good in those keys as I am in every other one.
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Transposers are like school in the summer time, No Class. :D
Can you name that cartoon??
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...WELL I PLAY KEYS REALLY GOOD IN Ab!!!!
AND I CONSIDER MY TRANSPOSE BUTTON MY SECOND WIFE!!!!
I DONT HAVE THE TIME TO MASTER EVERY INSTRUMENT THAT I PLAY!
WHEN I PRODUCE A SONG NO ONE CARES IF I CAN ACTUALLY PLAY IN EVERY KEY!
SO I MASTERED Ab.....AND PEOPLE LOVE ME!
I CAN PLAY IN ANY KEY...BUT NOT GREAT!...
AND FOR THOSE THAT DONT LIKE IT....I HOPE SOME ONE SINGS IN E NEXT TIME YOU PLAY!
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Transposers are like school in the summer time, No Class. :D
Can you name that cartoon??
Fat Albert
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...AND FOR THOSE THAT DONT LIKE IT....I HOPE SOME ONE SINGS IN E NEXT TIME YOU PLAY!
ROTFLMBO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Don't usually need to transpose....but I had that "E" thing happen to me once....Sometimes ya gotta do what ya gotta do to get through!
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Like I said earlier, I'm a beginner at best. Three-part chords and a bass line is all I've got right now. My question to you guys is what makes certain chords harder for you to play in? Is it the fingering, or that you can't do all the progressions and "phat" chords as easily. For example, what's so bad about E?
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Is it the fingering, or that you can't do all the progressions and "phat" chords as easily. For example, what's so bad about E?
Lack of practice. If you practiced songs in that key, it wouldn't feel funny to you.
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...AND FOR THOSE THAT DONT LIKE IT....I HOPE SOME ONE SINGS IN E NEXT TIME YOU PLAY!
Thats messed up Man :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
But you are absolutely right. A lot of producers dont play in all of their keys but when they are composing a song they have to put their best foot forward if they want to stay in business. Transposing is not a bad thing. I use to frown upon transposers a lot, but they do what they have to do. Now shame on you if you have been playing for 8 to 10 years plus and you still only know C and Ab. :? :!: You can reverse the purpose of the transpose button to help you better yourself. For instance lets take the key of E for example since that seems to be the most popular key that keyboard players like to rebuke and plead the blood against. :lol: Thats one of the reasons I like Aaron Lindsey, He stays in E. But if a song is in the key of Eb then transpose to the key of D or E and learn it in one of those keys. Same thing with Ab and A, Bb and B. Its actually a lot of fun. 8) A great keyboard player whose DVD some of you probably own or have seen him play on other sites said thats its keys like D,E,A,and B that separates the Boys from the Men.
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Until I get a little more time to practice....If someone starts sangin' in E....then I'll be one of da boyz. :D
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Until I get a little more time to practice....If someone starts sangin' in E....then I'll be one of da boyz. :D
Whatever you have to man, keep sheddin :o
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Transposers are like Athletes on Steriods......uummm.....uumm....man, can't think of any more good 'Fat Albert' Sayings. :)
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Hey Hey Hey 4hisglory:
Transposers are like hardwood floors that have just been waxed...........
Man they are finished!
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Hey Hey Hey 4hisglory:
Transposers are like hardwood floors that have just been waxed...........
Man they are finished!
:? boo!, :lol:
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WELL Hi, My Name is Eric: (takes a deep breath) And I'm a Transposer.
(crowd: hi Eric)
I Have been playing the keys for about 2 years. I have been using the deadly drug of transposing for all of my 2 years. I have it bad for...................... THE BUTTON. It just be calling me. I never like to sound bad. So I transposed on a organ. (crowd gasps). The tone of the Organ sounded HORRIBLE; but my cords were PHAT though. Now when I play at different churchs we can only do 1 of 5 songs b/c THey are in the key of either F#/Eb,Ab/f, or C#/Bb. But I am getting better day by day. I have been practicing my preaching chords in every key for about the past month. Please Pray with me As I go though this addiction.
Thank You for listen my follow A.A. inductees.
:lol: :D
HOLLA
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WELL Hi, My Name is Eric: (takes a deep breath) And I'm a Transposer.
(crowd: hi Eric)
I Have been playing the keys for about 2 years. I have been using the deadly drug of transposing for all of my 2 years. I have it bad for...................... THE BUTTON. It just be calling me. I never like to sound bad. So I transposed on a organ. (crowd gasps). The tone of the Organ sounded HORRIBLE; but my cords were PHAT though. Now when I play at different churchs we can only do 1 of 5 songs b/c THey are in the key of either F#/Eb,Ab/f, or C#/Bb. But I am getting better day by day. I have been practicing my preaching chords in every key for about the past month. Please Pray with me As I go though this addiction.
Thank You for listen my follow A.A. inductees.
:lol: :D
HOLLA
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Is there anyone else who'd like to confess? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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I really have no idea why companies inlude transpose buttons on their keyboards but when transposer buttons are used a lot, they prevent the musician from becoming comfortable with all of the keys. Every musician should work hard in order to become familiar with all of the major and minor keys including the ones that are difficult for them.
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I been playing for 6 years and only transposed maybe about 20 times...and that was on the first year..To me E is one of my favorite keys...I can play A very well but not my fav but I an very fluent in all my keys...I do practice 2 hours a day constantly...
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MAN I feel you that is one of the thing i got on most of my friends. just about all my friends got this sick changes and stuff like that and all this butch woodie runs. but they can only play them in certain keys so i figure that if i just learn how to play song and preaching in all the keys before i try to go to the butch woodie stage than i will be better that alot of my friends. Beside in playing in a church service you will come to found out that all that running and off chording the people wont really like(unless its a concert or you have a gain of young people) so I just really stay real smooth and here and there i throw a butch run or chord in. Thats you a alot of older people call me to do there services because i have learned to play the crowd. But man catron keep it up you sounding great.
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I've never been a victim of the transposing addiction because I was originally trained classically and then moved to gospel about 6 years ago…but anyone who has trouble playing in various keys practicing the major and minor scales of the keys that you have trouble with will help your fingers operate in that particular key. After you practice for a while will become easy like anything else in playing keyboard/piano/organ…you just have to reach a level where you are comfortable in that key. Be blessed!
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My question to you guys is what makes certain chords harder for you to play in?
Well, for me, if I am playing in a key that I don't know very well and I am not paying attention to what I am doing, my mind will automatically go to a key that I do know and my fingers will follow. Then, I get everybody messed up cuz I jumped keys, when it was just a habitual thing to go to my most comfortable keys. For example, if I am playing in the key of C, if I don't pay close attention, my fingers will automatically just jump to Eb in the middle. Then, I got refocus and go back to C and play. This is mostly for the fast songs, not the slow ones. I know that if I practiced more, that wouldn't happen.
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Transposers will cause you to lose skills instead of gaining. It's a hindrance to your growth as an individual and as a musician. I say this because if you take the short cut all or most of the time you miss the beauty, experience and wisdom that you would have seen on the main road. Been there and done all of that. Practice!
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I confess that I too used to be a transpose addict. However, I have learned to play fluently in the majority of my keys now. I am still working to be comfortable in a few. I learned the hard way, the button will eventually fail you because if you play with professional musicans who modulate whole and half steps you are in trouble. Also, let's say you visit a church and you don't have your board. Well you are asked to render the music but all they have is a regular piano. Now what are you gonna do? If you play then you will make a fool of yourself when they sing in a key you don't know. If you decline, you will be considered rude. I used to think it was hard to learn to play in every key. Thanks to some of the wonderful musicians here on LGM, I learned about music theory and it has made a true musician out of me. THANKS TO ALL THAT CONTRIBUTED.