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Gospel Instruments => Gospel Drummers => Topic started by: bigblackdrummer on February 24, 2006, 07:29:43 AM
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Ok I was wrong in my post! I went to this dudes myspace site and I was not impressed! The crap on his space is worse then most secular artist! Im not talking music but content. He needs a kick in his tail to smarten his nappy black butt up! Come on! Who flings an F bomb on a Christian production, how professional is that! You all know Im not one to just judge and Im one on the most liberal Christians in here (with in Bible standards not man made rules) so for me to come out and say this guys Christianitys wack...you know its wack!
Maybe at one time he was a Christian musician, not any more! >:(
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Ok I was wrong in my post! I went to this dudes myspace site and I was not impressed! The crap on his space is worse then most secular artist! Im not talking music but content. He needs a kick in his tail to smarten his nappy black butt up! Come on! Who flings an F bomb on a Christian production, how professional is that! You all know Im not one to just judge and Im one on the most liberal Christians in here (with in Bible standards not man made rules) so for me to come out and say this guys Christianitys wack...you know its wack!
Maybe at one time he was a Christian musician, not any more! >:(
I never thought he was Christian. I could tell that Gerald wanted to use him because he has played gospel, and would probably be able to show some interesting licks that gospel drummers could use.
Nothing more, nothing less...
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Wow!!! :o Here we go. This is going to stir up the chicken coop...get ready....
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I feel WW3 coming on in this board! haha.
AMEN BBD. AMEN.
God Bless.
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I never thought he was Christian. I could tell that Gerald wanted to use him because he has played gospel, and would probably be able to show some interesting licks that gospel drummers could use.
Nothing more, nothing less...
Agreed.
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I am not a drummer, but I did think he was a "Gospel' Drummer purely for the fact he was being featured on a gospel site.
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Hahahahaha Im only speaking the truth SO BRING IT KIDS !!!!!! After being on his myspace site I might as well talk about Ol Dirty or Two Live Crew (remember them) on here, its that bad! I hope he gets this and cleans up!!!!
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I am not a drummer, but I did think he was a "Gospel' Drummer purely for the fact he was being featured on a gospel site.
And thats what Im saying! Why is he on here or even Gospel Chops!!!
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Ok I was wrong in my post! I went to this dudes myspace site and I was not impressed! The crap on his space is worse then most secular artist! Im not talking music but content. He needs a kick in his tail to smarten his nappy black butt up! Come on! Who flings an F bomb on a Christian production, how professional is that! You all know Im not one to just judge and Im one on the most liberal Christians in here (with in Bible standards not man made rules) so for me to come out and say this guys Christianitys wack...you know its wack!
Maybe at one time he was a Christian musician, not any more! >:(
I never thought he was Christian. I could tell that Gerald wanted to use him because he has played gospel, and would probably be able to show some interesting licks that gospel drummers could use.
Nothing more, nothing less...
Yeah but thats called being a sell out!!!! Why then could he have not gotten a real giant like Heyward or McQuitty!?
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Ok I was wrong in my post! I went to this dudes myspace site and I was not impressed! The crap on his space is worse then most secular artist! Im not talking music but content. He needs a kick in his tail to smarten his nappy black butt up! Come on! Who flings an F bomb on a Christian production, how professional is that! You all know Im not one to just judge and Im one on the most liberal Christians in here (with in Bible standards not man made rules) so for me to come out and say this guys Christianitys wack...you know its wack!
Maybe at one time he was a Christian musician, not any more! >:(
I never thought he was Christian. I could tell that Gerald wanted to use him because he has played gospel, and would probably be able to show some interesting licks that gospel drum
mers could use.
Nothing more, nothing less...
Yeah but thats called being a sell out!!!! Why then could he have not gotten a real giant like Heyward or McQuitty!?
Well, you also have to remember, too...Thomas's location probably had a lot to do with it. Gerald is from NY, and I'm not sure where McQuitty is from ...
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Sup everybody im new here well I joined last week but I deceided to share my opinion on this topic.....big black I have to agree with you thomas myspace page is kinda weird but you never know what people are dealing with we dont know whats going on in thomas life im sure its some more gospel drummers thats not all the way right but if you think about it none of us are perfect we all have our down falls, I know I do, but far as thomas playing go that dude is NUUUTTTTZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (oh and im not trying to say nobodys wrong this was just my opinion nothing against nobody else im not saying big black was wrong we all have our own opinions)
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Ok I was wrong in my post! I went to this dudes myspace site and I was not impressed! The crap on his space is worse then most secular artist! Im not talking music but content. He needs a kick in his tail to smarten his nappy black butt up! Come on! Who flings an F bomb on a Christian production, how professional is that! You all know Im not one to just judge and Im one on the most liberal Christians in here (with in Bible standards not man made rules) so for me to come out and say this guys Christianitys wack...you know its wack!
Maybe at one time he was a Christian musician, not any more! >:(
FOR ONCE....!!!!!!!!!!!BIG GUY!!!!!!!!.......... I AGREE!!!!!!!!! I have him on my MySpace..and when I first saw it I was trippin!!!!!!!!!!!! "GOSPEL" Drummer ........I think not!!!!!!!!!!!! >:(........................Yea but hes still pretty good!!!!!!!!!!!LOL :D :D :D ;D......BUT YEA GOSPEL I THINK NOT >:( >:(!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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;DOh yea,......................ONE WORD.....................NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:(
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he really is a christian... he just turn the wrong path... i kno his uncle he grew up in the church...the first time i ever saw him was at the Gospel Music Workshop of America Convention...he play there for some years...i kno his still play in that church now not sure where... we just need to pray for that brotha...
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Da1witdastix, I have to agree with you, because I don't know his life story, but if he is a Christian then we are family in the body of Christ, and it's are duty to pray for him while he is in this season of his life. I knew Thomas to be in Gospel Music Workshop for years, and his done a couple of recordings for the youth choir. Fam, lets keep Thomas in are prays that one day he will been of fire for Christ.
Seven,
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whats the address for his myspace page? i cant find it on any functions...
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Da1witdastix, I have to agree with you, because I don't know his life story, but if he is a Christian then we are family in the body of Christ, and it's are duty to pray for him while he is in this season of his life. I knew Thomas to be in Gospel Music Workshop for years, and his done a couple of recordings for the youth choir. Fam, lets keep Thomas in are prays that one day he will been of fire for Christ.
Seven,
amen
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Who do you all think you are? You have NO RIGHT to be talking about him like this. Front him if you want, just make sure you're face to face. How "christian" are you gossiping about someone who isn't as good as you would like everyone to think you are? You guys are wrong for making this public.Yes, ofcourse he was wrong for the dropping the f-bomb on the dvd. You may be right on about your thoughts towards him but WRONG to start a topic about someone you don't know on the WORLD WIDE WEB. Grow up bigblackdrummer. "bring it on kids, lets talk about how horrible he is, you know i'm right" I'm sorry but what the hell? Pat yourself on the back bro. Go ahead. Lift yourself up while putting someone down. You are completely out of line. You are the kind of christian who I would question. Thomas could be on the brink of spending eternity in hell and this is the best we can do. He needs Jesus and the best we can do on this christian board is to gather round and bash those who are lost??? You can make a difference by sending him a message, emailing him.
For those of you who had good things to say, I'm not talking to you. People get hurt when talk like this happens in the church. They lose all hope in "christian" people when we are suppose to be loving on them. They are the kind of people who die without Jesus. If you were thomas and you came across this thread, would you feel like "these guys actually care." Nooooooo way. I'm sorry for getting heated but little doors like this can mess people up and it's this kind of talk that can make someone hate the church, hate christianity, and hate and die without our only hope, Jesus. We are all messed up, we all struggle, I thank Jesus for his blood that qualifies me to pick up a pair of drumsticks and worship him with no condemnation.
Come on all of you men of God and back me up on this. This board needs to be different then every other board out their that smashes on our government, presidents, celebrities, and just people. We need to love one another like brothers because THATS what people need to see in us. Our love for eachother, and that can lead them to Jesus.
"First and foremost, Learngospelmusic.com is dedicated and committed to the Glory of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ!!! Without him, none of this would be possible"
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You know what Audio, I believe you can get your point across without cursing. Don't you think? ::)
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I will only say this:
An Alcoholic can only get help, if he admits that he an Alcoholic. Not until then. Someone has to admit that they have a problem. They have to WANT a solution.
Same in Christianity.
Jesus is a Gentlemen. "Behold I stand at the door and knock, if any man opens the door, I will come in and will sup with him and he with me."
He will not just barge into someones heart. He waits for us to open up. We have to want it.
There is hope for ANYONE!!! If they are willing to accept that Jesus died on the Cross for them. THEY have to accept that. we cant do it for them.... Pray, yes. no question. but we can Pray till we are blue in the face, and Jesus can keep on knocking, and if they dont want it......
GUESS WHAT.....THEY WONT GET IT.
And believe me.....when someone wants it...it shows. I've been there. and when I was lost...I cried out and begged and Prayed that God would intervene. Thats when He will step in...Not a minute sooner.
God Bless.
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[b Come on all of you men of God and back me up on this. This board needs to be different then every other board out their that smashes on our government, presidents, celebrities, and just people. We need to love one another like brothers because THATS what people need to see in us. Our love for eachother, and that can lead them to Jesus.
Audiocr381ve I'm standing with brother 100%
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And believe me.....when someone wants it...it shows. I've been there. and when I was lost...I cried out and begged and Prayed that God would intervene. Thats when He will step in...Not a minute sooner.
God Bless.[/color]
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just cause that was your experience does not mean it is fact. wanting it doesn't mean it will show. how many people out there want it and don't show it. how many people out there want it deep inside and don't even real8ize they want and need it. that is what discernment is for- seeing what is NOT SHOWN. Jesus percieved men's hearts, our Father looks on our hearts.
even us as christians walking the walk want things and need things we never show that we need but we receive because we really want it.
YES God will give to those who TRULY want it, but REALLY WANTING something doesn't equal showing it.
and further more how many people "SHOW" it and don't really mean it or slip right back into whatever they came out of. appearances and actions are a lot less weighty than we think.-ie. "why do cyou call me "LORD LORD" but do not do what i say".
he may or may not really want God right now for himself- the deciding factor is NOT however, wheter he "shows" it on a myspace acount or dvd or at all
and to be clear ER i agree with everything you said except that one point
i do also agree we should stand in prayer and dicernment for him, praying the will of God is spiritual warfare and if God can speak to him and break through the spiritual shackles and walls put in place by the enemy's camp in the spirit- then God who is almighty Can Change- pursuade- WHETHER HE WANTS IT OR NOT- GOD CAN MINISTER TO HIS HEART SOOOO OUR PRAYERS DO COUNT AND CAN BE EFFECTIVE, WE CAN'T JUST SIT HERE AND THINK SINCE HE MAY NOT WANT IT, WE MIGHT AS WELL NOT PRAY CAUSE IT WON'T DO ANYGOOD....
I AM DONE
i wasn't yelling just kept the caps on by accident
remember:
the biggest catalyst for change is LOVE
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Thank you seven. I'll be the first to say that I'm messed up without Jesus. And I fall short all of the time. And he's the only thing that keeps me from going crazy and living confused. All I'm saying is that Thomas doesn't need another person in the church telling him how things should be and how he's wrong.
It's funny how the one thing most important to you Jfunky was the word "hell" out of everything I said. I can tell you of how millions of children are dying and need help, and show you a way that we can contribute, but if I said one cuss word in the mix of it, immediately most christians like yourself will shut out the fact that I have a plan to help children who are dying and dwell on a cuss word as if it's THE ONLY THING I SAID.. A pirme example of how sometimes we only see that one negative thing amongst more positive things that could do everyone alot better to focus on.
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he really is a christian... he just turn the wrong path... i kno his uncle he grew up in the church...the first time i ever saw him was at the Gospel Music Workshop of America Convention...he play there for some years...i kno his still play in that church now not sure where... we just need to pray for that brotha...
Maybe I'm wrong, but isn't a Christian someone whose born again, and is follower of Jesus Christ?
I think many people call themselves Christians because they were raised in a "Christian family" - or because they go to church. Based on Christian theology, what good is any of that, if you aren't 'born again', and a follower of Christ?
Just a thought ...
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And believe me.....when someone wants it...it shows. I've been there. and when I was lost...I cried out and begged and Prayed that God would intervene. Thats when He will step in...Not a minute sooner.
God Bless.[/color]
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just cause that was your experience does not mean it is fact. wanting it doesn't mean it will show. how many people out there want it and don't show it. how many people out there want it deep inside and don't even real8ize they want and need it. that is what discernment is for- seeing what is NOT SHOWN. Jesus percieved men's hearts, our Father looks on our hearts.
even us as christians walking the walk want things and need things we never show that we need but we receive because we really want it.
YES God will give to those who TRULY want it, but REALLY WANTING something doesn't equal showing it.
and further more how many people "SHOW" it and don't really mean it or slip right back into whatever they came out of. appearances and actions are a lot less weighty than we think.-ie. "why do cyou call me "LORD LORD" but do not do what i say".
he may or may not really want God right now for himself- the deciding factor is NOT however, wheter he "shows" it on a myspace acount or dvd or at all
and to be clear ER i agree with everything you said except that one point
i do also agree we should stand in prayer and dicernment for him, praying the will of God is spiritual warfare and if God can speak to him and break through the spiritual shackles and walls put in place by the enemy's camp in the spirit- then God who is almighty Can Change- pursuade- WHETHER HE WANTS IT OR NOT- GOD CAN MINISTER TO HIS HEART SOOOO OUR PRAYERS DO COUNT AND CAN BE EFFECTIVE, WE CAN'T JUST SIT HERE AND THINK SINCE HE MAY NOT WANT IT, WE MIGHT AS WELL NOT PRAY CAUSE IT WON'T DO ANYGOOD....
I AM DONE
i wasn't yelling just kept the caps on by accident
remember:
the biggest catalyst for change is LOVE
If we cant disagree and still be Brothers, then there would be something wrong with our experience. I do disagree with you. we are both pretty strong on our convictions and stands. I believe that it has to come from wanting....When a Baby wants something...what does it do.. just sit there? No. It cries and cries and cries until it gets what it wants. now, we dont know what it is the baby wants right away. but the Baby knows it wants something. If the baby wanted something and just sat there, we would never know.
Just how I feel. we can disagree.
and Amen MD.
God Bless.
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amen div
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Audio, I will NOT go down to your level. I agreed with your statement. I beleive that you need to READ the Forum Rules and understand how to state your opinion on this site. It really isn't hard. As for the children thing, that's your business and not mine. Good for you. If you re-read my post, you will understand. And yes, one rotten potato can ruin the rest in the bag. Think before you state. It's not hard. God Bless.....
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It's not about getting my friggen point across man. I don't care and I'm sick of most everyone turning every thread into some sort of political/biblical debate when in actualality it's just pride. Can we get back to being friendly and loving around here? Believe or not we christians on this board represent Jesus and the church. All this bickering " You know what Audio, I believe you can get your point across without cursing. Don't you think? ::) " needs to stop and is getting old. You put that little face thing of the guy rolling his eyes as if you had the maturity of a 3 year old. Come on now, drop your pride, contribute to the topic.
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Can we get back to being friendly and loving around here?
Wow! Their was a time when it was friendly and loving?!
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Jfunky I'm done arguing with you. Cut it out lets move on. Back to the topic.
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And believe me.....when someone wants it...it shows. I've been there. and when I was lost...I cried out and begged and Prayed that God would intervene. Thats when He will step in...Not a minute sooner.
God Bless.[/color]
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just cause that was your experience does not mean it is fact. wanting it doesn't mean it will show. how many people out there want it and don't show it. how many people out there want it deep inside and don't even real8ize they want and need it. that is what discernment is for- seeing what is NOT SHOWN. Jesus percieved men's hearts, our Father looks on our hearts.
even us as christians walking the walk want things and need things we never show that we need but we receive because we really want it.
YES God will give to those who TRULY want it, but REALLY WANTING something doesn't equal showing it.
and further more how many people "SHOW" it and don't really mean it or slip right back into whatever they came out of. appearances and actions are a lot less weighty than we think.-ie. "why do cyou call me "LORD LORD" but do not do what i say".
he may or may not really want God right now for himself- the deciding factor is NOT however, wheter he "shows" it on a myspace acount or dvd or at all
and to be clear ER i agree with everything you said except that one point
i do also agree we should stand in prayer and dicernment for him, praying the will of God is spiritual warfare and if God can speak to him and break through the spiritual shackles and walls put in place by the enemy's camp in the spirit- then God who is almighty Can Change- pursuade- WHETHER HE WANTS IT OR NOT- GOD CAN MINISTER TO HIS HEART SOOOO OUR PRAYERS DO COUNT AND CAN BE EFFECTIVE, WE CAN'T JUST SIT HERE AND THINK SINCE HE MAY NOT WANT IT, WE MIGHT AS WELL NOT PRAY CAUSE IT WON'T DO ANYGOOD....
I AM DONE
i wasn't yelling just kept the caps on by accident
remember:
the biggest catalyst for change is LOVE
If we cant disagree and still be Brothers, then there would be something wrong with our experience. I do disagree with you. we are both pretty strong on our convictions and stands. I believe that it has to come from wanting....When a Baby wants something...what does it do.. just sit there? No. It cries and cries and cries until it gets what it wants. now, we dont know what it is the baby wants right away. but the Baby knows it wants something. If the baby wanted something and just sat there, we would never know.
Just how I feel. we can disagree.
and Amen MD.
God Bless.
that is still only sometimes man
does the baby want clothes on YES, does the baby ever really cry for clothes- rarely, even when it comes to feeding babies, not all the time do you wait til' they cry to feed them, if you know they need to eat, and you know it's something they probably want and need you give it to them. i have a God daughter who needs to eat a little more so we feed her because her body wants it and needs it or else it reacts- she won't say anything but there are consequences so her body needs and wants the food.
so even in your baby example yes that does happen BUT it is Not a definate- or accross the board- it does NOT apply to everyone... you see?
and what do you think about what i said in regards to praying/interceding for him? cause you made it sound like we shouldn't pray for him cause he has to want it first, or else our prayers will be for nothing...
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Thank you seven. I'll be the first to say that I'm messed up without Jesus. And I fall short all of the time. And he's the only thing that keeps me from going crazy and living confused. All I'm saying is that Thomas doesn't need another person in the church telling him how things should be and how he's wrong.
It's funny how the one thing most important to you Jfunky was the word "hell" out of everything I said. I can tell you of how millions of children are dying and need help, and show you a way that we can contribute, but if I said one cuss word in the mix of it, immediately most christians like yourself will shut out the fact that I have a plan to help children who are dying and dwell on a cuss word as if it's THE ONLY THING I SAID.. A pirme example of how sometimes we only see that one negative thing amongst more positive things that could do everyone alot better to focus on.
Everything was PERFECT in the Garden of Eden....it took ONE...only ONE little WRONG thing to cause the ENTIRE fall of Man....so yes, one small thing out of line does effect everything else. Does it not???
God Bless.
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My brother, I have NO PRIDE. If you want someone to go against, it won't be me. I'm only correcting the way you put your statement on here. You know what though, since this has upset you and cost you discomfort, I'll contribute to the topic and abort by saying this, PRAY for Thomas and leave it in God's hands. Now, since I"m 3 yrs. old, I'll abort this topic and go out and get some kool aid and take a nap. I'm out.
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and what do you think about what i said in regards to praying/interceding for him? cause you made it sound like we shouldn't pray for him cause he has to want it first, or else our prayers will be for nothing...
I'm still unclear on this, to be honest. People say that God won't force his will on to you - and yet, it's often said that you should pray for people so that they will come to Christ, and/or see the error in their ways.
If that be the case, doesn't that totally nullify any effect that a prayer would have?
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hahahahah
Pride always gets the last word in right? The first part of your last post was prideless. And then the fall. Classic.
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And believe me.....when someone wants it...it shows. I've been there. and when I was lost...I cried out and begged and Prayed that God would intervene. Thats when He will step in...Not a minute sooner.
God Bless.[/color]
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just cause that was your experience does not mean it is fact. wanting it doesn't mean it will show. how many people out there want it and don't show it. how many people out there want it deep inside and don't even real8ize they want and need it. that is what discernment is for- seeing what is NOT SHOWN. Jesus percieved men's hearts, our Father looks on our hearts.
even us as christians walking the walk want things and need things we never show that we need but we receive because we really want it.
YES God will give to those who TRULY want it, but REALLY WANTING something doesn't equal showing it.
and further more how many people "SHOW" it and don't really mean it or slip right back into whatever they came out of. appearances and actions are a lot less weighty than we think.-ie. "why do cyou call me "LORD LORD" but do not do what i say".
he may or may not really want God right now for himself- the deciding factor is NOT however, wheter he "shows" it on a myspace acount or dvd or at all
and to be clear ER i agree with everything you said except that one point
i do also agree we should stand in prayer and dicernment for him, praying the will of God is spiritual warfare and if God can speak to him and break through the spiritual shackles and walls put in place by the enemy's camp in the spirit- then God who is almighty Can Change- pursuade- WHETHER HE WANTS IT OR NOT- GOD CAN MINISTER TO HIS HEART SOOOO OUR PRAYERS DO COUNT AND CAN BE EFFECTIVE, WE CAN'T JUST SIT HERE AND THINK SINCE HE MAY NOT WANT IT, WE MIGHT AS WELL NOT PRAY CAUSE IT WON'T DO ANYGOOD....
I AM DONE
i wasn't yelling just kept the caps on by accident
remember:
the biggest catalyst for change is LOVE
If we cant disagree and still be Brothers, then there would be something wrong with our experience. I do disagree with you. we are both pretty strong on our convictions and stands. I believe that it has to come from wanting....When a Baby wants something...what does it do.. just sit there? No. It cries and cries and cries until it gets what it wants. now, we dont know what it is the baby wants right away. but the Baby knows it wants something. If the baby wanted something and just sat there, we would never know.
Just how I feel. we can disagree.
and Amen MD.
God Bless.
that is still only sometimes man
does the baby want clothes on YES, does the baby ever really cry for clothes- rarely, even when it comes to feeding babies, not all the time do you wait til' they cry to feed them, if you know they need to eat, and you know it's something they probably want and need you give it to them. i have a God daughter who needs to eat a little more so we feed her because her body wants it and needs it or else it reacts- she won't say anything but there are consequences so her body needs and wants the food.
so even in your baby example yes that does happen BUT it is Not a definate- or accross the board- it does NOT apply to everyone... you see?
and what do you think about what i said in regards to praying/interceding for him? cause you made it sound like we shouldn't pray for him cause he has to want it first, or else our prayers will be for nothing...
On Showing that someone wants it...we Disagree...
On praying / interceding for him... we agree!! We must pray. we know the Prayer of a Righteous man Avails much. and God can work Miracles...but as I said, he will not force his way into someones life. NOW, with that being said.. God will bring obstacles into ones life, to make them fall to their knees and come back to God. which can happen due to the prayers of others.
God Bless.
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My brother, I have NO PRIDE.
That's a rather powerful statement. Are you sure you're human?
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WOOOOOOHOOOOOOO....
I DONT KNOW ABOUT ANY OF YOU, BUT I AM HAVING AN AWESOME TIME BOXING WITH EVERYONE!!!!! ANYONE ELSE ENJOYING THIS????
IT FEELS GOOD. NICE STRESS RELIEF! HAHAHAHA
GOD BLESS.
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" and God can work Miracles...but as I said, he will not force his way into someones life."
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"NOW, with that being said.. God will bring obstacles into ones life, to make them fall to their knees and come back to God."
Help me to understand, Eccentric-Rhythm. The last statement seems to contradict the first.
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Who do you all think you are? You have NO RIGHT to be talking about him like this. Front him if you want, just make sure you're face to face. How "christian" are you gossiping about someone who isn't as good as you would like everyone to think you are? You guys are wrong for making this public.Yes, ofcourse he was wrong for the dropping the f-bomb on the dvd. You may be right on about your thoughts towards him but WRONG to start a topic about someone you don't know on the WORLD WIDE WEB. Grow up bigblackdrummer. "bring it on kids, lets talk about how horrible he is, you know i'm right" I'm sorry but what the hell? Pat yourself on the back bro. Go ahead. Lift yourself up while putting someone down. You are completely out of line. You are the kind of christian who I would question. Thomas could be on the brink of spending eternity in hell and this is the best we can do. He needs Jesus and the best we can do on this christian board is to gather round and bash those who are lost??? You can make a difference by sending him a message, emailing him.
For those of you who had good things to say, I'm not talking to you. People get hurt when talk like this happens in the church. They lose all hope in "christian" people when we are suppose to be loving on them. They are the kind of people who die without Jesus. If you were thomas and you came across this thread, would you feel like "these guys actually care." Nooooooo way. I'm sorry for getting heated but little doors like this can mess people up and it's this kind of talk that can make someone hate the church, hate christianity, and hate and die without our only hope, Jesus. We are all messed up, we all struggle, I thank Jesus for his blood that qualifies me to pick up a pair of drumsticks and worship him with no condemnation.
Come on all of you men of God and back me up on this. This board needs to be different then every other board out their that smashes on our government, presidents, celebrities, and just people. We need to love one another like brothers because THATS what people need to see in us. Our love for eachother, and that can lead them to Jesus.
"First and foremost, Learngospelmusic.com is dedicated and committed to the Glory of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ!!! Without him, none of this would be possible"
Dude this is a GOSPEL site where that dudes name has come up as one of the greats! Hes definitely not living a Christian life (HAVE YOU BEEN ON HIS SITE!) How bad does it look when WE as Christians are telling people to look this guys site up only to have them go and read filth! Im not gossiping, hes put it out for all to read, I didnt! Hes done it to himself! If he wanted people to think he was still a Christian his actions in the public would be different! Im talking Web Sites, In front the camera, whatever.
Theres a right and a wrong and its wrong for us to keep mentioning / promoting him as hes going through this time! I do understand your point and I did think about it before I posted it, I hope you understand why I did it.
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Everyone, the clay will never understand the potter. This life we've choosen to live is something that none of us can completely wrap our arms around. We will never understand everything. Remember this, when you are stumped and can't figure it out, and are starting to question if you should even BELIEVE ALL OF THIS, remember Faith = Past human understanding. It's when you just can't understand things and you decide to trust that God knows what he's doing.
Yo E-R, I'm in round 4 right now with a black eye man!!!! haha
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Pride always gets the last word in right?
It would also seem that pride likes to point out that pride was right about another person having pride.
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Hey I feel you bigblackdrummer and I was wrong for attacking you the way I did. I just got the vibe that you thought it was funny or something to poke at.
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WOW!!!!!!!! COME ON GUY'S LET'S DROP THIS SUBJECT VALID POINTS WAS MADE SOME GOOD AND SOME BAD .........PEACE STAY BLESSED
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MaestroDivine,
hahahah. You are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. And pride would point out when someone pointed out that someone else had pride right? HAHA
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Seriously though. If you haven't read every single post until now. Go back and read, pure entertainment. jk!
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" and God can work Miracles...but as I said, he will not force his way into someones life."
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"NOW, with that being said.. God will bring obstacles into ones life, to make them fall to their knees and come back to God."
Help me to understand, Eccentric-Rhythm. The last statement seems to contradict the first.
Sorry...that does sound contradicting... Forgive me. I was trying to apply the latter statement with someone actually wanting something. For example, if someone is struggling in their life, and they want God, and know they need him, but they are not sure how to get back...or are being stubborn about it, God can intervene. and bring an obstacle across their path. Now in my opinion, that Applies to a Child of God. and we should know, not everyone is a Child of God.
Another view: I have an Uncle that is a Major Drug Addict. He was raised in church and still goes to Church when he is halfway sober. He is in his 40's and has struggled since he was a teen. My grandma, mom, dad, uncles, aunts and all our Family have prayed for him his Whole life. he still believes in God but he is bound by that demon. Will we quit praying, no. But, I feel that until He REALLy REALLY wants deliverance, God will not step in. He has to want it. So our prayers, are God have mercy. and may God soften his heart.
I hope that cleared it up?? I am in the middle of conversing on here and trying to finish up an insane Deadline..the head engineer isnt here today, so I am trying to do his job and mine. Forgive me, my thoughts are a little jumbled and in 2 places!
God Bless.
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MaestroDivine,
hahahah. You are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. And pride would point out when someone pointed out that someone else had pride right? HAHA
I never denied having pride. I have enough to share with all the members on this website. Is that good? No. However, it's the gospel truth...
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I didn't see that one coming!!!
Could you not tell that was a joke? Wierd. I said you were right dude. geez.
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Ok ****** kiss and make up :-* hehehe kiss me first! Id like to announce to all of you that me (Big Curtis Bernard) the grand master of this post has pride! Huh! What! Yes I have pride! YOU HAVE TO FREAKS!!!! Pride is not bad! We need it to make us stay clean, play awesome, brush out teeth....The only time pride is wrong is when you have to hurt others to gain yours.
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" and God can work Miracles...but as I said, he will not force his way into someones life."
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"NOW, with that being said.. God will bring obstacles into ones life, to make them fall to their knees and come back to God."
Help me to understand, Eccentric-Rhythm. The last statement seems to contradict the first.
Sorry...that does sound contradicting... Forgive me. I was trying to apply the latter statement with someone actually wanting something. For example, if someone is struggling in their life, and they want God, and know they need him, but they are not sure how to get back...or are being stubborn about it, God can intervene. and bring an obstacle across their path. Now in my opinion, that Applies to a Child of God. and we should know, not everyone is a Child of God.
Another view: I have an Uncle that is a Major Drug Addict. He was raised in church and still goes to Church when he is halfway sober. He is in his 40's and has struggled since he was a teen. My grandma, mom, dad, uncles, aunts and all our Family have prayed for him his Whole life. he still believes in God but he is bound by that demon. Will we quit praying, no. But, I feel that until He REALLy REALLY wants deliverance, God will not step in. He has to want it. So our prayers, are God have mercy. and may God soften his heart.
I hope that cleared it up?? I am in the middle of conversing on here and trying to finish up an insane Deadline..the head engineer isnt here today, so I am trying to do his job and mine. Forgive me, my thoughts are a little jumbled and in 2 places!
God Bless.
you are right for not stopping- cause God will NEVER (as long as we're alive) stop pursuing him/us and calling him/us back home- he loves us too much, and we should love like he does- or try our best
never Give up. you never know how long the struggle may be, but you do know that there is always a God who is willing- just like the woman bleeding had suffered for years (i want to say 18) but in that moment she was healed- IT IS NEVER TOO LATE. - UNTIL YOU REACH HELL/HEAVEN.
ISN'T GOD ............ PERFECT!
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PRAISE HIM!!!!!!
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" and God can work Miracles...but as I said, he will not force his way into someones life."
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"NOW, with that being said.. God will bring obstacles into ones life, to make them fall to their knees and come back to God."
Help me to understand, Eccentric-Rhythm. The last statement seems to contradict the first.
God dosent put the obstacles in our life, ultimatetly WE do. What I mean is, when we dont accept God and what hes done for us then God respects your decision leaving us to go through lifes difficulties on our own. Most people, after life beats up on them for a while, decide that they cant take on life on there own and they need God. God wont make you turn to him.
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is tony royster considered a christian drummer or just a tight drummer....cuz the first time i ever seen or heard... that man in a chuch is on that clip
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He started out playing in church, and from what I hear, he plays in church whenever he isn't on the road.
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I feel WW3 coming on in this board! haha.
AMEN BBD. AMEN.
God Bless.
lol you know i stay ready e-r!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I am not a drummer, but I did think he was a "Gospel' Drummer purely for the fact he was being featured on a gospel site.
same here!
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He started out playing in church, and from what I hear, he plays in church whenever he isn't on the road.
Well, Chris Dave still play's in church ... and you can tell by looking at his lips, he's no stranger to 'herbal therapy'...
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He started out playing in church, and from what I hear, he plays in church whenever he isn't on the road.
Well, Chris Dave still play's in church ... and you can tell by looking at his lips, he's no stranger to 'herbal therapy'...
Wow!!
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He started out playing in church, and from what I hear, he plays in church whenever he isn't on the road.
Well, Chris Dave still play's in church ... and you can tell by looking at his lips, he's no stranger to 'herbal therapy'...
Wow!!
How else do you think he come he comes up with that off-the-wall stuff he plays?? LOL...
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I will tell you why i myself and others thought he was a christian drummer. it was because he was on a site called GOSPEL chops. giving the impression that we were learning from a gospel website with gospel musicians. thats like having show called GOSPEL Idol and having some one from slipknot win.
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He started out playing in church, and from what I hear, he plays in church whenever he isn't on the road.
Well, Chris Dave still play's in church ... and you can tell by looking at his lips, he's no stranger to 'herbal therapy'...
Well, I wasn't going to say anything, but... :D :D :D :D
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To be perfectly honest with you. Christ has been like that for years, Like before Mint, and Kenny Garrett. I meet Chris when he used to go to Howard U back in that day. Chris and Gordon Campbell would go at it for hours. See Chris studied Tony Williams like real heavy. If you listen to some of Hebbie, and Tony from Head Hunter CD You can hear a lot of Chris influence.
Seven,
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I will tell you why i myself and others thought he was a christian drummer. it was because he was on a site called GOSPEL chops. giving the impression that we were learning from a gospel website with gospel musicians. thats like having show called GOSPEL Idol and having some one from slipknot win.
Well, I didn't see it that way. I can definitely understand why you WOULD see it that way...
However...
It is gospelCHOPS.com .. not gospelMUSICIANS.com. The focus is on the helping people develop their chops, by bringing in renowned and/or highly skilled drummers.
I know music ministries that have NO born-again musicians. They're talented, and the church appoint them to those positions. Good music, in many cases, seems to be more important than the characters of the one's playing it.
Ideally, they'd want them to be Christian ... but, Don't ask, Don't tell??
~OD
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To be perfectly honest with you. Christ has been like that for years, Like before Mint, and Kenny Garrett. I meet Chris when he used to go to Howard U back in that day. Chris and Gordon Campbell would go at it for hours. See Chris studied Tony Williams like real heavy. If you listen to some of Hebbie, and Tony from Head Hunter CD You can hear a lot of Chris influence.
Seven,
Sorry I ment Chris D
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To be perfectly honest with you. Christ has been like that for years, Like before Mint, and Kenny Garrett. I meet Chris when he used to go to Howard U back in that day. Chris and Gordon Campbell would go at it for hours. See Chris studied Tony Williams like real heavy. If you listen to some of Hebbie, and Tony from Head Hunter CD You can hear a lot of Chris influence.
Seven,
Oh, I was only joking. Now, I do know that the guy is fond of marijuana ... but, I also know that the dude is VERY MUCH dedicated to perfecting his craft.
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To be perfectly honest with you. Christ has been like that for years, Like before Mint, and Kenny Garrett. I meet Chris when he used to go to Howard U back in that day. Chris and Gordon Campbell would go at it for hours. See Chris studied Tony Williams like real heavy. If you listen to some of Hebbie, and Tony from Head Hunter CD You can hear a lot of Chris influence.
Seven,
Sorry I ment Chris D
Haha! I was like, 'Wow, he REALLY thinks a lot of his playing!!!"
Just kidding man...
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Well, Chris Dave still play's in church ... and you can tell by looking at his lips, he's no stranger to 'herbal therapy'... ;D(spits juice out his mouf) waaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahh ahahahahahahahahahaha lol omgoodness lol if you ever say "herbal therapy" hahahahahaa lol well like we all been sayin every christian admit it or not struggles with SOMETHING we can pray for them and hope they get thru it but we cant steal there praise..... i mean how many christians are homosexuals?(i just heard hezi came out!!!!! i hope thas not true lol i aint denyin it tho did yall see his pic on his new album idk..) but yeah every christian struggles with somethin but thomas man o man that myspace was pretty bad but he is a GREAT drummer.... and im not new to this site i jus changed my screen name alright room i wanna get in on this boxing match im a pretty boy dont hit my face lol
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MaestroDivine, It's cool, It's all love. You bring the laughter on here!!!
Seven,
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MaestroDivine, It's cool, It's all love. You bring the laughter on here!!!
Seven,
he brings mess on here pure d mess! lol lol lol lol
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LOL!!!
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He started out playing in church, and from what I hear, he plays in church whenever he isn't on the road.
Well, Chris Dave still play's in church ... and you can tell by looking at his lips, he's no stranger to 'herbal therapy'...
haahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahah ahhhha i did notice they were quite black and pointed ;D
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He started out playing in church, and from what I hear, he plays in church whenever he isn't on the road.
Well, Chris Dave still play's in church ... and you can tell by looking at his lips, he's no stranger to 'herbal therapy'...
haahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahah ahhhha i did notice they were quite black and pointed ;D
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I'm still laughin @ 'herbal therapy'...LOL. I don't know Thomas persoanally so I don't know what his spiritual life is all about, what I do know, is if you profess a belief in Christ Jesus, then there needs to be some sort of represntation in your lifestyle.
Let the church say amen...now I'm going back to my 'herbal therapy' glacoma is a beast..I know I spelled it wrong...LOL
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I'M GOING TO SPEAK FOR MYSELF, WHEN I WAS YOUNGER I DID IT ALL, & STILL PLAYED @ CHURCH, WE I DECIDED TO TOTALLY COMMIT MY LIFE TO THE LORD I STOPPED EVERYTHING, SOME FOLKS LEARN @ 15, SOME GUYS LEARN @ 30, THEN SOME GUYS NEVER LEARN, ONLY GOD CAN JUDGE US, NOBODY ELSE
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shawntahadabosha!!!!!!!! preach brotha!!!
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He started out playing in church, and from what I hear, he plays in church whenever he isn't on the road.
Well, Chris Dave still play's in church ... and you can tell by looking at his lips, he's no stranger to 'herbal therapy'...
Wow!!
How else do you think he come he comes up with that off-the-wall stuff he plays?? LOL...
hahahaha maestrodivine you crack me up yo, maybe thomas like looking like a fool and maybe chris likes burning those big black lips on a leaf pipe but PEOPLE we have to stop bashin folk and pray for ourselves and fellow because I KNOW yall all aren't perfect, including myself! So stop it with all this childish, verbal swordplay! ~touche~
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excuse me, fellow man**
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You ever think they are laughing at us? Do you think they in their hearts know that they are not living a Christian life but are still reaping the rewards and fame of being a Christian musician?
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Thomas definitely needs prayer fellas. He has Heriion and other non-pharmacy drugs and things as being a major influence in his life. If you look at some of those pictures, he is clearly high on something. I think Thomas is a great talent but there is definitely something that is missing in his playing. We can only pray that God pricks his heart a causes a change in him.
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thank you bigsid this whole topic is funny ya'll doin all this arguing about thomas but do you think he cares I dont think so I mean im not cappin on nobodys opinion but all you can do is pray for him,talking bout him and shootin him down just because of his myspace page aint gon help like bigsid said just pray for the dude cause you never know what he's goin thru and I know we are all guilty of some wrong things we have done in life so just pray for him cause com on lets be real here all of us on here aint always been christians. i mean all this stuff ya'll saying about him I bet wont none of ya'll write him on his myspace page and tell him I mean if ya'll really think he needs help write him and see how he doin tell him you are there for him if he needs someone to talk to I think that would be better than just talking bout his problems on here.
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Thomas definitely needs prayer fellas. He has Heriion and other non-pharmacy drugs and things as being a major influence in his life. If you look at some of those pictures, he is clearly high on something. I think Thomas is a great talent but there is definitely something that is missing in his playing. We can only pray that God pricks his heart a causes a change in him.
And that is why I started this topic. There is no place for that in here and people keep lifting him up and calling his name! Like I said, Im not gossiping Thomas put it out there for all to read!
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Kirk came to town one day and he spoke on musicians/singers ain the church. And he said that alot of churches just let the singers and musicians do whatever they want to do just because they have talent. We pretty much know this to be a fact.
BTW Is it just me or does B.B.D. look entirely different with a smile? :)
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Kirk came to town one day and he spoke on musicians/singers ain the church. And he said that alot of churches just let the singers and musicians do whatever they want to do just because they have talent. We pretty much know this to be a fact.
BTW Is it just me or does B.B.D. look entirely different with a smile? :)
How true that is!! He doesnt look like he is ready to kill somebody no more... Keep SMILING! ;D
God Bless.
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Kirk came to town one day and he spoke on musicians/singers ain the church. And he said that alot of churches just let the singers and musicians do whatever they want to do just because they have talent. We pretty much know this to be a fact.
BTW Is it just me or does B.B.D. look entirely different with a smile? :)
he does look a lil diffrent!
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WATS HIS THOMAS PRIDGEN MYSPACE
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WATS HIS THOMAS PRIDGEN MYSPACE
Searth the thread doc. It's at the beginning. Come on now... fish bruh fish.
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WATS HIS THOMAS PRIDGEN MYSPACE
Searth the thread doc. It's at the beginning. Come on now... fish bruh fish.
lol
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i must be dum cuz i dont see it
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The link may have been removed because of it's content. Much prfanity in the music there.
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i must be dum cuz i dont see it
You dont see it here because it wasnt on this Thread. Check out the thread Attitudes on the shed dvd. Thats where its at. I also just put it in your new THOMAS thread.
God Bless.
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i must be dum cuz i dont see it
You dont see it here because it wasnt on this Thread. Check out the thread Attitudes on the shed dvd. Thats where its at. I also just put it in your new THOMAS thread.
God Bless.
Thanks E-R
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i must be dum cuz i dont see it
You dont see it here because it wasnt on this Thread. Check out the thread Attitudes on the shed dvd. Thats where its at. I also just put it in your new THOMAS thread.
God Bless.
Thanks E-R
I gotcha covered Sabe.
God Bless.
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Kirk came to town one day and he spoke on musicians/singers ain the church. And he said that alot of churches just let the singers and musicians do whatever they want to do just because they have talent. We pretty much know this to be a fact.
BTW Is it just me or does B.B.D. look entirely different with a smile? :)
Thats because my child makes me very happy!!!!
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Kirk came to town one day and he spoke on musicians/singers ain the church. And he said that alot of churches just let the singers and musicians do whatever they want to do just because they have talent. We pretty much know this to be a fact.
BTW Is it just me or does B.B.D. look entirely different with a smile? :)
Thats because my child makes me very happy!!!!
Good answer... you have a Beautiful Little Baby!
God Bless.