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Gospel Instruments => Gospel Drummers => Topic started by: waydrummer on March 05, 2006, 06:52:07 PM
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I just want every one to comment their opinion/critque of everyone who performed on it?
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there is another thread on here about that use the search thingie to find it.
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Thomas Pridgen- This guy is not from planet earth! He was easily the most creative. He kept my finger on the rewind button. I think he dominated session 2. Tony Royster Jr.- He's got some fast hands. Outside of that, he didn't really show me too much. Jeremy Haynes- He was so very musical, even in that shed situation. His maturity was shown throughout, and the guy's foot is nuts. Eric Moore- Great chops, really fast. Pretty creative. I was impressed by him. Joey Oscar-Is it just me or did he seem a little uncomfortable in that situation? I don't know. He's got some crazy singles though. Yaahn Hunter- I was amazed that he could even breath shedding with Pridgen, Royster, and Eric Moore. Considering the situation, he held is own. I can't imagine sheding with those three. Nice.
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im sad to say i cant get the DVD...my moms dont like ordering from her comp...now if it was in stores near my town..i wouldve got it..
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Haven't seen it yet but plan to pick it up soon.
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Too many notes for my taste...That's why i vote Jeremy alll the way.His maturity and musicality makes him a way better musician than the other cats.
Thomas is cool,i like that he uses phrases from not gospel drummers only.Tony is fast and effortless but plays too many notes.Same for Eric Moore.They're monsters but i like a drum solo to build up more rather than shredding from beginning to end with no dynamics and nuances.This is not how a musical solo should be played in my humble opinion.Those cats should listen to some jazz and stuff.Don't get me wrong,i love fast licks and all,but all the time...no thank you.
Joey looked a bit contrived but there's sthg about his playing that i really enjoy. ???
Mad props to Yaahn who,despite his young age,is all but ridiculous.Not sure i would have handled it as good as he did.
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I thought the dvd was ok. Thomas and Tony were next level! They were killin the hardest. Eric was good but his timing was very bad. Jeremy was alright but his chops were too rudimental and soft. Joey Oscar was...well...to be honest, I dont know how he made the cover. The bass player was pretty crafty. The keyboard player was sweet. I would like to see Thomas Pridgen, Aaron Spears, Chris Dave and Ronald Bruner Jr. in a session. After that, there would be silence in Heaven for about 4 hours.
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I JUST THOUGHT IT COULD OF BEEN STUCTURED BETTER I WAS PROUD OF MY SON TAWANN HANGING LIKE THAT AT 14 YEARS OLD , LANDING THE ONE OFF CHOPS IS ALLTHAT MATTERS, IF YOU DON'T ITS WASTED ENERGY I HOPE TO BE ON THE NEXT ONE I HAD TO PLAY THAT NIGHT WHAT DID YOU THINK OF ARRON GREEN AND TAWANN .I THINK THEY KILLED FOR LAST MINUTE FILLINS LANDING THE ONE
AND RESPECTING THE SPACE OF OTHERS, HAVING FUN ,NO COMPEDITIVE TENSION
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everything was tight but i thought the camera ppl was terrible...they didn't kno what they was doing...me and my ppl could record somethin betta then that....too thos kats was NASTY
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how about add Nathaniel Townsley on the next session along with Chris Dave and Ron Bruner, that would be fun...
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Yeah ... they need some serious heavy-weights.
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how about Gerald Heyward, Chris Coleman, Aaron Spears, and Spanky.....
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how about Gerald Heyward, Chris Coleman, Aaron Spears, and Spanky.....
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how about Gerald Heyward, Chris Coleman, Aaron Spears, and Spanky.....
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did u fall asleep? i think i doses off a little bit too..
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how about Gerald Heyward, Chris Coleman, Aaron Spears, and Spanky.....
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did u fall asleep? i think i doses off a little bit too..
Actually, I wouldn't mind seeing Chris Coleman shed. Some people have called him GREAT, so I'd like to hear him just let it all out. I've heard the rest - and that wouldn't be interesting to me.
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ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT THOMAS PRIDGEN IS VERY TALENTED. HIS STYLE OF PLAYING AND CHOPS WERE INCREDIBLE. TONY ROYSTER.....WELL WHAT DO I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT HIM................ABSOLUTELY A MONSTER ON THE DRUMS. J. HAYNES HAD MY ATTENTION ALSO. HE IS VERY MUSICAL WHICH I CAN RESPECT. THE YOUNG GUYS ON THERE WERE NICE TOO. I DIDN'T SLEEP ON THEM. ERIC MOORE IS NICE ON THE SET, WITH OUT A DOUBT. MUCH RESPECT!! PRETTY MUCH EVERYONE HAD THERE OWN STYLE AND J. HAYNES ALSO DID HIS BEST AT CONRTOLLING THE SHED SO THAT IT SOUNDED GOOD. I CAN RESPECT THAT BECAUSE HAVING THAT MUCH TALENT IN ONE ROOM CAN BE A LITTLE CRAZY. HEY, ALL THINGS WORK TOGETHER FOR THE GOOD. :)
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80% of the DVD was just a sloppy mess. Thomas didn't impress me, and if you were listening, his timing was no better than some other cats in the room. He didn't honor the groove as far as I'm concerned. Eric Moores timing was very good most of the time, he did some SICK things and if this shed session was a contest, he would have won. And that's the opinion of about 10 people I've shown the DVD to.
JOey seemed alittle tense, maybe camera shy but I know for sure he could bust out some better stuff than he displayed.
Jeremy haynes ofcourse never missed a beat. He did great but his drums weren't mic'ed up real well. He's FAST.
Tony royster was okay for me.
Aaron Green did some sick stuff.
The kid wearing the "lil drummer" shirt was very tasty and current. He honored the groove !!!
And kid with the glasses needs some work. Just to much for me.
DVD was pretty cool.
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how about Gerald Heyward, Chris Coleman, Aaron Spears, and Spanky.....
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
WHAT ? Doc you sleepin on the wrong people...
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how about Gerald Heyward, Chris Coleman, Aaron Spears, and Spanky.....
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
WHAT ? Doc you sleepin on the wrong people...
Man, I've heard all those cat's man. I'll trade for a Spanky shed - but the rest of those dudes don't really interest me.
People have different taste's. The other day, a friend of mine told me he didn't like Chris Dave, 'cause his playing was too unusual. I didn't tell him he was crazy. Everything isn't for everybody.
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...I can agree with that statement "Maestro".
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Well I liked the DVD,everyone could play and had chops, however I thought the grooves or hits by the bass player and keyboard could have been better planned. And as far as the Thomas comment goes by Audiocr381ve: YOU MUST BE PRETTY SICK TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT THOMAS PRIDGEN LIKE THAT I'D LIKE TO HEAR SOME AUDIO OF YOU, OR BETTER YET HEAR YOU IN A SHED WITH THOMAS!
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Well I liked the DVD,everyone could play and had chops, however I thought the grooves or hits by the bass player and keyboard could have been better planned. And as far as the Thomas comment goes by Audiocr381ve: YOU MUST BE PRETTY SICK TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT THOMAS PRIDGEN LIKE THAT I'D LIKE TO HEAR SOME AUDIO OF YOU, OR BETTER YET HEAR YOU IN A SHED WITH THOMAS!
Way...keep in mind, folks are entitled to their opinions. To say someone is sick to make a comment is not good bizness on this site. If you liked the DVD, that's cool, you're entitled to your opinion...The last thing we need on this site is more drama, dramamine...
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You can tell who's imature when they start saying "I wanna hear you play! I'd like to see you in that shed session! Lets get an audio of you!" Come on now man, you new round here?
I have put an audio up first of all dog. Thomas would destroy me. I don't form my opinions based on my own musical talent. I form them based on the best I've heard. And Thomas right now just isn't hitting the bar for me. He most definetly will be one of the greatest years from now if he keeps it up but as far as the SHED SESSIONS DVD GOES, he didn't impress me.
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Naw doc, I'm not new if you look at my posts. Neither was the comment immature its just that when someone doesn't impress you ,you must be able to surpass them or on a higher level. That's the impression I get.
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Naw doc, I'm not new if you look at my posts. Neither was the comment immature its just that when someone doesn't impress you ,you must be able to surpass them or on a higher level. That's the impression I get.
A person's style can simply be unappealing to you. You've never bought a cd that you didn't like? If so, could you have done better?
I always like to ask people - if I have to be just as good or better to be unimpressed, don't you have to be great to RECOGNIZE greatness? How are you able to call Pridgen great, if you can't play what he does? Are you callin' him great because he's better than you? You do realize your perspective on such a matter, oftentimes, is based on your ability, or lack theirof.
Meaning?
If his opinion on Thomas's playing is no good, because he's not on that level - then neither is your opinion of Thomas, because you can only compare & contrast your ability with Pridgen's. Ultimately, making your opinion wholly subjective.
~OD
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Naw doc, I'm not new if you look at my posts. Neither was the comment immature its just that when someone doesn't impress you ,you must be able to surpass them or on a higher level. That's the impression I get.
A person's style can simply be unappealing to you. You've never bought a cd that you didn't like? If so, could you have done better?
I always like to ask people - if I have to be just as good or better to be unimpressed, don't you have to be great to RECOGNIZE greatness? How are you able to call Pridgen great, if you can't play what he does? Are you callin' him great because he's better than you? You do realize your perspective on such a matter, oftentimes, is based on your ability, or lack theirof.
Meaning?
If his opinion on Thomas's playing is no good, because he's not on that level - then neither is your opinion of Thomas, because you can only compare & contrast your ability with Pridgen's. Ultimately, making your opinion wholly subjective.
~OD
The Maestro has spoken!!!
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>:( I've been tryna buy that movie for weeks it keep sayin my card invalid I don't care what nonya say thomas is bad all them drummers is nicer then me so therfore I give them the props
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MaestroDivine I don't understand your point. This has nothing to do with my playing, But since you want to go their, I'm cofident with my playing I've played with Thomas before and he has alot chops that I don't do , but in no way do I "worship" him or think he is the "king", like your comment suggests. ALL I WAS TRYING TO DO WAS FIND OUT WHY AUDIOCR381VE FEELS THE WAY HE DOES ABOUT THOMAS CUZ I DON'T SEE IT!!
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MaestroDivine I don't understand your point. This has nothing to do with my playing, But since you want to go their, I'm cofident with my playing I've played with Thomas before and he has alot chops that I don't do , but in no way do I "worship" him or think he is the "king", like your comment suggests. ALL I WAS TRYING TO DO WAS FIND OUT WHY AUDIOCR381VE FEELS THE WAY HE DOES ABOUT THOMAS CUZ I DON'T SEE IT!!
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Waydrummer, Maestro did not say that Thomas is the King. We all know that his inspiration is Chris Dave and not Thomas. All he is saying is that Audio had his opinion and you have yours. If his is no good than what makes your opinion valid? Read his post again and you'll see. ;)
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Naw doc, I'm not new if you look at my posts. Neither was the comment immature its just that when someone doesn't impress you ,you must be able to surpass them or on a higher level. That's the impression I get.
A person's style can simply be unappealing to you. You've never bought a cd that you didn't like? If so, could you have done better?
I always like to ask people - if I have to be just as good or better to be unimpressed, don't you have to be great to RECOGNIZE greatness? How are you able to call Pridgen great, if you can't play what he does? Are you callin' him great because he's better than you? You do realize your perspective on such a matter, oftentimes, is based on your ability, or lack theirof.
Meaning?
If his opinion on Thomas's playing is no good, because he's not on that level - then neither is your opinion of Thomas, because you can only compare & contrast your ability with Pridgen's. Ultimately, making your opinion wholly subjective.
~OD
WOW!!! Thats DEEP LOL. Im gonna have to use that. I agree totally
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well i dont think u have 2 be deep to realize that thomas is a beast. so is jeremy. tony did some nice stuff as well. eric had mad chops too. but their was nothing wrong with thomas timing like someone had implied. he always came back to the one when he was done soloing. and i support waydrummers comments because he is a very talented drummer, and we have both heard thomas plenty of times and he is simply amazing. i know everyone is entitled to their own opinon but some stuff sounds rediculous so i had to chime in.
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well i dont think u have 2 be deep to realize that thomas is a beast. so is jeremy. tony did some nice stuff as well. eric had mad chops too. but their was nothing wrong with thomas timing like someone had implied. he always came back to the one when he was done soloing. and i support waydrummers comments because he is a very talented drummer, and we have both heard thomas plenty of times and he is simply amazing. i know everyone is entitled to their own opinon but some stuff sounds rediculous so i had to chime in.
Why, exactly, are you supporting waydrummer?
Not trying to start confusion. Just wondering...
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well i dont think u have 2 be deep to realize that thomas is a beast. so is jeremy. tony did some nice stuff as well. eric had mad chops too. but their was nothing wrong with thomas timing like someone had implied. he always came back to the one when he was done soloing. and i support waydrummers comments because he is a very talented drummer, and we have both heard thomas plenty of times and he is simply amazing. i know everyone is entitled to their own opinon but some stuff sounds rediculous so i had to chime in.
Why, exactly, are you supporting waydrummer?
Not trying to start confusion. Just wondering...
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well i dont think u have 2 be deep to realize that thomas is a beast. so is jeremy. tony did some nice stuff as well. eric had mad chops too. but their was nothing wrong with thomas timing like someone had implied. he always came back to the one when he was done soloing. and i support waydrummers comments because he is a very talented drummer, and we have both heard thomas plenty of times and he is simply amazing. i know everyone is entitled to their own opinon but some stuff sounds rediculous so i had to chime in.
Oh, my bad. You're supporting his comments, 'cause he's a talented drummer.
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You know its pointless of even tryin to find out why someone feels the way they because every time I put a post up I get negative re-buttle or a smart comment so I done with this topic. And by the way I respect everyone's opinion on here, I just know now not to challange some one's opinion or post my audio on here. :) ;) :D ;D
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Waydrummer, you are entitled to your opinion as is everyone else. Most of the time things go bad on threads is because we don't know how to phrase our opinions properly and it comes out the wrong way. Trust me, it's happened to me. I understand you wanted to find out why Audio felt the way he did. Reading your post made it seem like you were coming too strong. If you would've said, "Hey Audio, why do you think that Thomas...... , it would've come out better. What do you think? By the way, I'd love to hear some clips of your playing brother. Go ahead and post. ;)
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Waydrummer, you are entitled to your opinion as is everyone else. Most of the time things go bad on threads is because we don't know how to phrase our opinions properly and it comes out the wrong way. Trust me, it's happened to me. I understand you wanted to find out why Audio felt the way he did. Reading your post made it seem like you were coming too strong. If you would've said, "Hey Audio, why do you think that Thomas...... , it would've come out better. What do you think? By the way, I'd love to hear some clips of your playing brother. Go ahead and post. ;)
He's right, man. On rare occassions, I may come across too strongly too. Heck, hardly ever - but the point is, it happens. So, try to sound inquisitive, instead of confrontational ... and all should be well.
Stay Black, Jack!
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Naw doc, I'm not new if you look at my posts. Neither was the comment immature its just that when someone doesn't impress you ,you must be able to surpass them or on a higher level. That's the impression I get.
A person's style can simply be unappealing to you. You've never bought a cd that you didn't like? If so, could you have done better?
I always like to ask people - if I have to be just as good or better to be unimpressed, don't you have to be great to RECOGNIZE greatness? How are you able to call Pridgen great, if you can't play what he does? Are you callin' him great because he's better than you? You do realize your perspective on such a matter, oftentimes, is based on your ability, or lack theirof.
Meaning?
If his opinion on Thomas's playing is no good, because he's not on that level - then neither is your opinion of Thomas, because you can only compare & contrast your ability with Pridgen's. Ultimately, making your opinion wholly subjective.
~OD
Point blank, and I say this regardless of the moderators, NOBODY COMMENTING ON THIS FORUM IS GONNA SIT DOWN AN HAND IT TO THOMAS PRIDGEN. THATS HANDS DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Until I see anybody that has time to write hundreds or thousands of posts on this site apose to gigging, sit down on the set with legends such as Dave Weckl, Vinnie Colaiuta, Dennis Chambers, Tony Williams ect.......... and hand them a nice piece, nothing you say is valid. Because Thomas has done all of the above, including winning the Guitar Center Drum off in the adult division at the age of 8! Modern Drummer has also ranked him at the top of being one of the worlds greatest drummers of our time and erra, dubbing him a LIVING LEDGEND! Oooops Im sorry I didnt catch ANY of your names, WHO ARE YOU?
HOLLA BACK!
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Naw doc, I'm not new if you look at my posts. Neither was the comment immature its just that when someone doesn't impress you ,you must be able to surpass them or on a higher level. That's the impression I get.
A person's style can simply be unappealing to you. You've never bought a cd that you didn't like? If so, could you have done better?
I always like to ask people - if I have to be just as good or better to be unimpressed, don't you have to be great to RECOGNIZE greatness? How are you able to call Pridgen great, if you can't play what he does? Are you callin' him great because he's better than you? You do realize your perspective on such a matter, oftentimes, is based on your ability, or lack theirof.
Meaning?
If his opinion on Thomas's playing is no good, because he's not on that level - then neither is your opinion of Thomas, because you can only compare & contrast your ability with Pridgen's. Ultimately, making your opinion wholly subjective.
~OD
Point blank, and I say this regardless of the moderators, NOBODY COMMENTING ON THIS FORUM IS GONNA SIT DOWN AN HAND IT TO THOMAS PRIDGEN. THATS HANDS DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Until I see anybody that has time to write hundreds or thousands of posts on this site apose to gigging, sit down on the set with legends such as Dave Weckl, Vinnie Colaiuta, Dennis Chambers, Tony Williams ect.......... and hand them a nice piece, nothing you say is valid. Because Thomas has done all of the above, including winning the Guitar Center Drum off in the adult division at the age of 8! Modern Drummer has also ranked him at the top of being one of the worlds greatest drummers of our time and erra, dubbing him a LIVING LEDGEND! Oooops Im sorry I didnt catch ANY of your names, WHO ARE YOU?
HOLLA BACK!
That's right!
If you don't have a name known through out the world, in your particular field, then you're no good! The only people who have any talent, are those who learned from legends, have had articles written up about them, and don't spend a lo of time on this website! It's not possible that you may have just not be recognized yet! It's not possible that maybe you don't want to be a touring musician! It's not possible to play drums, 'cause you love them, and for no other reason!
That's why Thomas Pridgen will forever be superior to all of us - because we don't have his name, connections, & resume!
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eeehhhhhhhhhh.....*nodds head from side to side* I was wit you until this comment......everything else i agree though.....but umerauh yeah as far as my opinion, i love thomas's rudimental base wit the kit.....i take a whole lot away from what he does...and then im able to understand everybody else's chops...... just goes to show again about the thing we've all heard about knowing all of your rudiments and achieving greatness on the set....you know the same application with knowing all your scales and achieving greatness on whatever it is that you play......yeah he's flippin great (ITS LIKE WHEN I HEAR HIM IT BE LIKE WHAT THE FLIIP..........Napolean Dynomite......lol)
... It's not possible to play drums, 'cause you love them, and for no other reason!......
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Naw doc, I'm not new if you look at my posts. Neither was the comment immature its just that when someone doesn't impress you ,you must be able to surpass them or on a higher level. That's the impression I get.
A person's style can simply be unappealing to you. You've never bought a cd that you didn't like? If so, could you have done better?
I always like to ask people - if I have to be just as good or better to be unimpressed, don't you have to be great to RECOGNIZE greatness? How are you able to call Pridgen great, if you can't play what he does? Are you callin' him great because he's better than you? You do realize your perspective on such a matter, oftentimes, is based on your ability, or lack theirof.
Meaning?
If his opinion on Thomas's playing is no good, because he's not on that level - then neither is your opinion of Thomas, because you can only compare & contrast your ability with Pridgen's. Ultimately, making your opinion wholly subjective.
~OD
Point blank, and I say this regardless of the moderators, NOBODY COMMENTING ON THIS FORUM IS GONNA SIT DOWN AN HAND IT TO THOMAS PRIDGEN. THATS HANDS DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Until I see anybody that has time to write hundreds or thousands of posts on this site apose to gigging, sit down on the set with legends such as Dave Weckl, Vinnie Colaiuta, Dennis Chambers, Tony Williams ect.......... and hand them a nice piece, nothing you say is valid. Because Thomas has done all of the above, including winning the Guitar Center Drum off in the adult division at the age of 8! Modern Drummer has also ranked him at the top of being one of the worlds greatest drummers of our time and erra, dubbing him a LIVING LEDGEND! Oooops Im sorry I didnt catch ANY of your names, WHO ARE YOU?
HOLLA BACK!
That's right!
If you don't have a name known through out the world, in your particular field, then you're no good! The only people who have any talent, are those who learned from legends, have had articles written up about them, and don't spend a lo of time on this website! It's not possible that you may have just not be recognized yet! It's not possible that maybe you don't want to be a touring musician! It's not possible to play drums, 'cause you love them, and for no other reason!
That's why Thomas Pridgen will forever be superior to all of us - because we don't have his name, connections, & resume!
i dont know about being forever superior. in fact what makes him superior to him now?? nothing but our confidence in ourselves and us giving into this persons talent and not believing in our own.
just my opinion.
BTW i wasn't contradicting you when i said you were sleeping on the wrong people i fully understand that what appeals to me may not appeal to you.
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well said my friend.........well said
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Naw doc, I'm not new if you look at my posts. Neither was the comment immature its just that when someone doesn't impress you ,you must be able to surpass them or on a higher level. That's the impression I get.
A person's style can simply be unappealing to you. You've never bought a cd that you didn't like? If so, could you have done better?
I always like to ask people - if I have to be just as good or better to be unimpressed, don't you have to be great to RECOGNIZE greatness? How are you able to call Pridgen great, if you can't play what he does? Are you callin' him great because he's better than you? You do realize your perspective on such a matter, oftentimes, is based on your ability, or lack theirof.
Meaning?
If his opinion on Thomas's playing is no good, because he's not on that level - then neither is your opinion of Thomas, because you can only compare & contrast your ability with Pridgen's. Ultimately, making your opinion wholly subjective.
~OD
Maestro, If I was smart enough to say all of that, I would of said it ! Thats exactly what I mean.
Why do I feel that thomas didn't impress me in the DVD is what you're trying to figure out huh?
Well, I watched the DVD and saw what he was doing, and to me it sounded like everytime it was his turn to take a few bars of time, it was at 100mph the entire time. He was alittle off time to me and I thought to myself "Am I so below his level that my brain can't interpret what he's doing, or is he just playing sloppy and off time at certain parts?"
After showing the DVD to 10 to 15 of my musician friends(guitarists, bassists, keyboardists) , it completely confirmed what I was feeling. It's not that I think he is a bad drummer at all, because he's just vommit on the skins (a BIG compliment) , but as far as the DVD goes, it didn't capture anything impressive and therefore IT DIDN'T IMPRESS ME.
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AHHH I srewed up my words.
Thomas is nothing short of incredible. He's very impressive. Regarding my opinion on him on the SHED SESSIONS DVD, I've seen cooler things from him and more tasty soloing is ALL I'm saying.
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Naw doc, I'm not new if you look at my posts. Neither was the comment immature its just that when someone doesn't impress you ,you must be able to surpass them or on a higher level. That's the impression I get.
A person's style can simply be unappealing to you. You've never bought a cd that you didn't like? If so, could you have done better?
I always like to ask people - if I have to be just as good or better to be unimpressed, don't you have to be great to RECOGNIZE greatness? How are you able to call Pridgen great, if you can't play what he does? Are you callin' him great because he's better than you? You do realize your perspective on such a matter, oftentimes, is based on your ability, or lack theirof.
Meaning?
If his opinion on Thomas's playing is no good, because he's not on that level - then neither is your opinion of Thomas, because you can only compare & contrast your ability with Pridgen's. Ultimately, making your opinion wholly subjective.
~OD
Point blank, and I say this regardless of the moderators, NOBODY COMMENTING ON THIS FORUM IS GONNA SIT DOWN AN HAND IT TO THOMAS PRIDGEN. THATS HANDS DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Until I see anybody that has time to write hundreds or thousands of posts on this site apose to gigging, sit down on the set with legends such as Dave Weckl, Vinnie Colaiuta, Dennis Chambers, Tony Williams ect.......... and hand them a nice piece, nothing you say is valid. Because Thomas has done all of the above, including winning the Guitar Center Drum off in the adult division at the age of 8! Modern Drummer has also ranked him at the top of being one of the worlds greatest drummers of our time and erra, dubbing him a LIVING LEDGEND! Oooops Im sorry I didnt catch ANY of your names, WHO ARE YOU?
HOLLA BACK!
That's right!
If you don't have a name known through out the world, in your particular field, then you're no good! The only people who have any talent, are those who learned from legends, have had articles written up about them, and don't spend a lo of time on this website! It's not possible that you may have just not be recognized yet! It's not possible that maybe you don't want to be a touring musician! It's not possible to play drums, 'cause you love them, and for no other reason!
That's why Thomas Pridgen will forever be superior to all of us - because we don't have his name, connections, & resume!
i dont know about being forever superior. in fact what makes him superior to him now?? nothing but our confidence in ourselves and us giving into this persons talent and not believing in our own.
just my opinion.
BTW i wasn't contradicting you when i said you were sleeping on the wrong people i fully understand that what appeals to me may not appeal to you.
Dude, I was being very sarcastic. I disagreeing with that dude - however, I was being very sarcastic about it.
In other words?
What I said in the post, is the exact opposite of how I feel.
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eeehhhhhhhhhh.....*nodds head from side to side* I was wit you until this comment......everything else i agree though.....but umerauh yeah as far as my opinion, i love thomas's rudimental base wit the kit.....i take a whole lot away from what he does...and then im able to understand everybody else's chops...... just goes to show again about the thing we've all heard about knowing all of your rudiments and achieving greatness on the set....you know the same application with knowing all your scales and achieving greatness on whatever it is that you play......yeah he's flippin great (ITS LIKE WHEN I HEAR HIM IT BE LIKE WHAT THE FLIIP..........Napolean Dynomite......lol)
... It's not possible to play drums, 'cause you love them, and for no other reason!......
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Once again. I was being sarcastic the entire post. I mean, that post was literally dripping with sarcasm, man!
I BELIEVE it's possible to play drums, just 'cause you love them. How could anyone say you can't. That wouldn't make sense.
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Naw doc, I'm not new if you look at my posts. Neither was the comment immature its just that when someone doesn't impress you ,you must be able to surpass them or on a higher level. That's the impression I get.
A person's style can simply be unappealing to you. You've never bought a cd that you didn't like? If so, could you have done better?
I always like to ask people - if I have to be just as good or better to be unimpressed, don't you have to be great to RECOGNIZE greatness? How are you able to call Pridgen great, if you can't play what he does? Are you callin' him great because he's better than you? You do realize your perspective on such a matter, oftentimes, is based on your ability, or lack theirof.
Meaning?
If his opinion on Thomas's playing is no good, because he's not on that level - then neither is your opinion of Thomas, because you can only compare & contrast your ability with Pridgen's. Ultimately, making your opinion wholly subjective.
~OD
Point blank, and I say this regardless of the moderators, NOBODY COMMENTING ON THIS FORUM IS GONNA SIT DOWN AN HAND IT TO THOMAS PRIDGEN. THATS HANDS DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Until I see anybody that has time to write hundreds or thousands of posts on this site apose to gigging, sit down on the set with legends such as Dave Weckl, Vinnie Colaiuta, Dennis Chambers, Tony Williams ect.......... and hand them a nice piece, nothing you say is valid. Because Thomas has done all of the above, including winning the Guitar Center Drum off in the adult division at the age of 8! Modern Drummer has also ranked him at the top of being one of the worlds greatest drummers of our time and erra, dubbing him a LIVING LEDGEND! Oooops Im sorry I didnt catch ANY of your names, WHO ARE YOU?
HOLLA BACK!
MODS...SORRY IN ADVANCE....and please dont take me wrong, but I need to voice my opinion....
THIS IS JUST STRAIGHT UP BOLGONA!!!!!!
??????????????? RAWBIDNES...or however the GHETTO spelling is, WHERE in the world is that coming from???? YOU HAVE 23 POSTS.... YOU DONT KNOW WHO HALF OF THESE PEOPLE ARE THAT POST ON THIS SITE. So what makes you think you know what you are saying?... AND SO YOU KNOW....There are plenty of Professional Drummers on this site that would run Circles around Thomas. So get a grip. Maybe God has called them to a Higher calling rather than cussing out the police....thats why they are not known.
And I have no disrespect towards Thomas at all. He is a good drummer...GOOD. not great, thats my opinion. I am not trying to put him down. we all just feel our own way.
You could have come on here, in a Christian Manner and make your statement...but the way you are approaching it is how "HOMIES" or "DAWGS" would approach it on the streets....
I WISH HALF THE PEOPLE ON HERE COULD LEARN HOW TO POST WITHOUT BEING HARD UP AND TRYING TO SHOW HOW BAD THEY ARE....ITS GETTING OLD!
Bottom line... You have your opinion, address it properly....dont come with an attitude and accusations unless you really know what you are talking about...
I say all of this in love and behalf of those on here that know what they are doing.
God Bless.
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It seems like the more someone talks about this DVD, the more crap like this gets started. In the famous words of Rodney King "Can't we all just.......get along?"---REALLY!
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It seems like the more someone talks about this DVD, the more crap like this gets started. In the famous words of Rodney King "Can't we all just.......get along?"---REALLY!
TRUE... as JFunky said, this DVD is getting a really sour taste!!! a whole lot of feelings getting flustered about it...and its not even from the guys that are playing on the DVD! figure that one out. what we need is a:
**GROUP HUG**
;D ;D ;D ;D
God Bless.
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Ah man, not a "Group Hug". ;)
Seriously, this DVD is causing too much drama on here. Could it be.............haterism ??? You know, the old "they should've had me in their Video type thing?" ???
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Singin' "People all over the world, join hands, start a love train, love train. People all over the world....." LOL
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This DVD is good for what it's worth.... Shedding,,,not Instructional. Yeah I'm sure we can all learn some things from it.
But I would like to hear them talk and tell me how they came up with some of those ideas. "teach a man to fish...." you know the rest. Kuddo's for them putting this together. I think we as a musicial community have come together more with the help of the net,and DVD's like this.
I'm sure the next one will be even more structured and informational.
Oh and for the record for those of you who thought Jeremy was taking over, listen to the comments after the shed.
J thanks them for letting him Lead the Session. So that was the intent of the producer from the jump.
Peace
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I agree with tenspeed.
E-R you are right on the money.
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I agree with tenspeed.
E-R you are right on the money.
Thanks!
God Bless.
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Everybody has their opinion, I just cant stand people bringin down my boys like that. 4real 4real, I play with Thomas on the regular, we been playin together for most of our careers. And im not bias in anything I say, but 4real, Ive seen this dude sit down with legends, that most keyword "GOSPEL" drummers cant do. I myself am an above average gospel drummer too, so when I say these things, I dont say them without though. I think that you guys just need to bear witness to some of the things Ive seen 1st hand. Its all good though, judge him off of a 45 minute dvd if you want. I mean as far as Im concerned that dvd was good for what it was worth. But It wasnt good enough for anybody to pass judgement on any drummer on that tape because Ive heard everybody on there do better! Now as for other the cat that was talkin crazy earlier, its all good. Yes, I do have 23 posts. Ive also had this account for a few YEARS! It just kills me because Im still getting picked on by a STEWARD,lol. Just Kidding, Its all good though, I feel you man.
P.S.
Look for the ghetto spelling of RAWBIZNES on the new Making The Band 3 album, I probably wont be posting for a while, cause Ill be working on that. We all in this together, CAINT WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?
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Biz...forget all the drama man. Let me hold one of the MTDs baby! I'm almost sold on them but I'm not quite there so if you know someone wanting to let a 635 go...holla at your boy.
Shedz...can't order it from here but bigups to all musicians doing they thang. I know none of those cats had people beefing in mind when they made it so lets respect them as fellow Levites. It's all subjective anyway...paradigms shape our perspectives. It depends on what glasses you are wearing. If you have you 15/20 year veteran glasses on, you're looking for a J Haynes with more musicial skill. If you're 1/5 year veteran, the tendancy is to focus on fast chops etc. As a bassist, I like for my drummer to be musicial with dymanics and nuances like someone said. You gotta pull the best out in me.
...I might get a chance to play or just view one of these cats on the Shedz video week after next.
T.J.
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I'M LIKE IT ALL IN THE RIGHT CONTEXT, WHEN A GUY GROOVES HARD AND I KNOW HE HAS ALOT MORE ABILITY I GET SO EXCITED LIKE VINNIE WITH FAITH HILL TO BE DISIPLINE WITH THE AMO IS SO INCREDIBLE TO ME I SAY LEARN EVERY CHOP YOU CAN ,BE FAST AS YOU CAN , JUST DO IT AT THE RIGHT TIME, IN THE RIGHT SITUATION
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tntnt,
Check it though...Isn't that so much like life. I mean the older you get the wiser. I hate to draw the simularities but music is kinda like love making. Like you said, you have all the chops but you groove and just give them enough to know, "hey, maybe this guy can really kill." But just chilll in the cutt. Give them enough to make them come back. Don't just blow your whad in the first 2 minutes. Like loving making, the art of the groove comes over time and experience. The other factor in that is, that it's not about just you. Again like love making, it's about intimacy. You have to make sure that the other musicians are feeling you too. That's why I'm almost all against shedding...because the focus has not become musicianship. Growing as a musician but the focus has become getting yours. That's not music, that's making noise! That's why I love my current band, through years of playing for the same ministry, we've developed a relationship deeper than playing over each other. We listen to each other and stay in tune to what one another does.
Just my 2...
T.J.
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I AGREE WITH YOU 99%.. BUT I LOOK AT SHEDDING AS A (AND ONE SPORT) NOT A SERIOUS PROFESSINAL GAME LIKE JORDAN, LIKE THE DUDE HOT SAUCE, IN THAT CONTEXT IN THAT SETTING ITS FINE , I THINK COMPEDITINESS IS GOOD (OFF STAGE) IN FUN, IT DRIVES YOU TO COME BACK STRONGER LIKE IN SPORTS I'VE BEEN TOURING A LONG TIME AND WHEN I PLAY MUSIC, I PLAY MUSIC, BUT WHEN THE KIDS ARE HERE, WE DOG FIGHT AND LET IT ALL OUT IN CHRIST IN GOOD FUN
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Yo Tim (ooopps I mean RAWBIZNES) what up man this is Stefon (A.K.A "Spider") from Sacramento, CA. Yo dawg it's a pleasure watching you and my boy Thomas Pridgen growing up and gettin yo blaze on. I hate the fact that current drummers whether young or old aren't giving you two plus Ayron Lewis, Titus Robertson and Morris Mingos, Dewayn Swann yall's props. DAWG you doin the thang man. The greatest bass player out there. Sherray is tight and so is Terrance Palmer and so is Tony Russel. But I have personally watched you grow man. You guys are humble and don't change. yo the Keisha Cole video was hot my boyee Steve Wierman is nasty on the guitar. Anyways holla at me man and K.I.T. Congrats on the Makin a Band 3 gig.
Spider
www.myspace.com/spiderswoodshed
rocketshells97@aol.com
www.spider79.faithweb.com
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i read a couple comments...i thought they was dumb funny!!!
i had fun doin the drum shed thing
i wished that most dudes even some of the cats that watched it..understand how i felt
personally....i didnt want to go in there on some battle thing!!! because im older than that, i dont feel the need to prove myself to anyone....i played how and what i felt
i wanted to play with the guys in the room not compete or battle....tony eric and now joey are all friends of minds..in the past ive ripped hella dudes, so that wasnt any of my interest.... im 22 now i used to battle bck in the 90's at GMWA when i was 15-16... That video was supposed to represent us as black drummers who all came from church...so y bring that energy!!!
i was trying to have fun.....so i hope you have fun with me when you watch it!!
ima go crazy on my own dvd.....that sheds dvd iz just the beginning
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I MUST SAY I'VE WATCHED THOMAS GROW UP AND ALWAYS THOUGHT HE WAS THE GREATEST RAW TALENT I HAVE EVER SAW AND I'VE SAW ALOT OF TALENTED KIDS
JUST READING HIS COMMENTS I THINK HIS FUTURE WILL BE BRIGHTER THEN IT WOULD OF BEFORE THIS GC PROJECT AND YOU WILL SEE HIM SKY ROCKET EVEN MORE IN THE INDUSTRY SKY IS THE LIMIT IF HE KEEPS GOD FIRST AND DON'T FORGET THE DRUMMERS FROM THE 30 AND UP CLUB ARE FAR FROM DONE YOU YOUNG CATS HAVE PUT THE FIRE BACK IN DRUMMING DRUMMERS FROM MY ERA ARE BACK SHEDDING MORE THAN EVER SO DON'T WRITE US OFF YET SEE YOU AT THE AUDITIONS
PEACE
TOMMY B
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Man i feel all late im jus now gettin mine. i already saw most of it
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TNT...Sounds like the next video should be old school verses new school.
Yo...i'm 30...would that make me old school or new school. I don't know who to cheer for.
I really like that JHaynes though. TP, EM are seriously GChops gone wild! Yall are pioneering how gospel musicians are market which you can't do nothing but respect that. I'll see you all on the west coast soon.
T.J.
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I LOVE JEREMY PLAYING STYE WISE HE'S FROM MY ERA JOEL SMITH FLASHES MUSIC FIRST SPRINKLED CHOPS BUT SINCE MY SONS COMING UP (KID ON THE GC SESSION) WE BATTLE AT HOME ALL THE TIME SO I'M FORCED TO STAY ON MY TOES AND FUSE SOME OF THE NEW CHOPS MUSICALLY ........... WE 'VE BEEN BEGGING THOMAS TO COME BEAT US UP WHASUP YOU ONLY LIVE 5MINS AWAY ARRON COMES OVER JUSTIN, CARLIN YAHN JR JUST IN FUN MAN NOT CALLING YOU OUT JUST WANT TO STEAL
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TNT...Maybe I missed something...your son? It's not Spider is it? I'm tripping...got to see all you cats live and in person. I've been e-mailing Gerald and MP about coming down to the Bay area. I'm just going to have to set a date. I gotta see how yall do it. Too many musicians in that area not to check it out myself. Oh yeah...you and Jeremy are in the same era then I won't worry about feeling too old :D I'm serious about coming that way though...stay tuned.
T.J.
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MY SON IS THE KID ON THE GC DVD , TAWANN BRADFORD( WITH THE LITTLE LOTS) HE WAS 14 AT THE RECORDING . MAYBE WE KNOW EACH OTHER,, I THINK YOU SAID YOU PLAY BASS , I TRAVEL WITH A GREAT BASSIST NELSON BRAXTON (THE BRAXTON BROTHERS) WE ALSO PLAY TOGETHER WITH LEDISI MY NAME IS TOMMY HIT ME IF YOU WANT TO SHED WITH US IN THE BAY
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its weird to me
cause people always ask me"ay bro when u come to town lets shed"
for wh0m ever dosnt know
shedding is playing with someone and you BOTH learnin from each other....if i cant learn from you or you cant learn from
me whats the point to "steal licks" ....if you cant steal em off gc tapes or albums you definitly aint goin to able to cop what im doin in person
im into playing together musically on some cool type stuff like mint or like grateful dead
im not really into showing you my licks or teaching anyone my stuff....so when talking about shedding be careful how you say that word
cause most musician dont even understand the true meaning
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shedding comes from the word woodshedding (stick slivers on the floor from practice) hooking up with people to shed is only to share ideas and concepts for fun and work on your personal style with someone doing the same ( i jokingly say steal licks) i like to understand someones approach to develop new ideas with my own flavor. I dont won't no ones personality . Thats all everyone does be it with a cd, dvd or what ever . You can tell when someone doesnt explore cause their growth stops and they can't seem to move to the next level , be it level 1 to 2 or 9 to 10 you get stuck you can't learn without hearing . Some cop vinnie, some ricky lawson
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Having tried to explain the real meaning of woodshedding to folk here before I hope that the the name recognition of Thomas and TNT will serve as a wake up call. tHanks guys for attempting to add some clarity to the murkiness.
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there was lots of tension in the room but it came together nicely doc