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Title: Legacy cymbal review.... I played the Legacys today!
Post by: SabianKnight on March 10, 2006, 06:02:40 PM
Drums 2 Go has gotten n the 14" hats, 10" splash, 12" splash,  16" crash, 18" crash.

They are hot! Think Steve Gadd Session Custom Crashes and K Custom Dark with a Bospherous and Wuhan edge... smooth yet dry and dirty .

The hats sound like HHX Groove Hats meet HHX Manhattan Jazz.

The 18" crash and the 12" splash are a must. THis 12" splash is 3-4 times better than the Evo one (which I own a 10"). Waiting on the Ozone Ride etc.
Title: Re: Legacy cymbal review.... I played the Legacys today!
Post by: SabianKnight on March 10, 2006, 06:52:40 PM
Has anyone else got a chance to platy them yet?
Title: Re: Legacy cymbal review.... I played the Legacys today!
Post by: lilben on March 10, 2006, 06:56:10 PM
I would try to get to the Memphis Drumshop tommorow, but I have a rehearsal and I have to work. Mannnnnnnnn!!!! How much are they running?
Title: Re: Legacy cymbal review.... I played the Legacys today!
Post by: SabianKnight on March 10, 2006, 08:18:55 PM
I would try to get to the Memphis Drumshop tommorow, but I have a rehearsal and I have to work. Mannnnnnnnn!!!! How much are they running?

I didn't look at the prices on everything but the hats are $329.99.
Title: Re: Legacy cymbal review.... I played the Legacys today!
Post by: lilben on March 10, 2006, 08:33:07 PM
I didn't look at the prices on everything but the hats are $329.99.



Man thats not bad at all!!! I might try and stop through there sometime next week. If I like them I might get a pair of hats and maybe a crash.
Title: Re: Legacy cymbal review.... I played the Legacys today!
Post by: sugabear on March 10, 2006, 09:01:43 PM
i tried those legacies and my my my... the splashes are on poiiiint. Iwas taken back by the crashes because i didn't expect them 2 sound like that but after a couple hits i was really feelin them. I gotta save up...!
Title: Re: Legacy cymbal review.... I played the Legacys today!
Post by: Eccentric-Rhythm on March 11, 2006, 07:23:13 AM
Has anyone else got a chance to platy them yet?

Man, and I was at my shop yesterday and didnt even bother to ask!! what an idiot. I did see a really nice Vault Ride....I really liked it. I was picking up a Genera Head and a Glass 500...per your suggestions. I will let you know how that works for me. I also picked up a Protection Racket cymbal bag...and the manager gave me Protection Rackets Deluxe stick bag for free...So I was happy.

Sabe, can you give me a good feel or suggestion on a ride. I love my A Custom Flat...Legacy Ozone?

God Bless.
Title: Re: Legacy cymbal review.... I played the Legacys today!
Post by: Cherri on March 11, 2006, 01:24:55 PM
I will check them out on Monday and price them. Peace.....
Title: Re: Legacy cymbal review.... I played the Legacys today!
Post by: SabianKnight on March 11, 2006, 05:53:31 PM
Man, and I was at my shop yesterday and didnt even bother to ask!! what an idiot. I did see a really nice Vault Ride....I really liked it. I was picking up a Genera Head and a Glass 500...per your suggestions. I will let you know how that works for me. I also picked up a Protection Racket cymbal bag...and the manager gave me Protection Rackets Deluxe stick bag for free...So I was happy.

Sabe, can you give me a good feel or suggestion on a ride. I love my A Custom Flat...Legacy Ozone?

God Bless.

I have an Prototype AAX flat 20"(thank God for lay-a-way,  :)). The Ed Thigpin Crystal flat is hot, try getting it in a 22". The AAX Stage is the truth 20" or 22". the 21" is a lil quirky in my opinion. Legacy Ozone will make you stand out but if you cannot jazz play rides you might not want it. It will be something to control. I haven't heard i tyet but I think it will be somewhat like the Fierce ride with a bit of control because of the holes.
Title: Re: Legacy cymbal review.... I played the Legacys today!
Post by: drumzalicious on March 11, 2006, 06:10:58 PM
Has anyone else got a chance to platy them yet?

i tried them a few weeks ago and they sound pretty good. i was more interested in the o-zone splashes though.
Title: Re: Legacy cymbal review.... I played the Legacys today!
Post by: SabianKnight on March 11, 2006, 06:13:23 PM
i tried them a few weeks ago and they sound pretty good. i was more interested in the o-zone splashes though.

Yeah the Ozone splashes are hot. I first checked them a year ago from the AA prototypes. They sound better as AAXs I must say. Combine those with the Legacys and you are gonna hurt somebody.
Title: Re: Legacy cymbal review.... I played the Legacys today!
Post by: Eccentric-Rhythm on March 12, 2006, 06:52:15 AM
I have an Prototype AAX flat 20"(thank God for lay-a-way,  :)). The Ed Thigpin Crystal flat is hot, try getting it in a 22". The AAX Stage is the truth 20" or 22". the 21" is a lil quirky in my opinion. Legacy Ozone will make you stand out but if you cannot jazz play rides you might not want it. It will be something to control. I haven't heard i tyet but I think it will be somewhat like the Fierce ride with a bit of control because of the holes.

Are all of the abov mentioned flat? I just picked up the Sabian Sound Catalog, I like the way the HHX Manhattan and HHX Groove Ride look. Also the Tri-top ride?

Forgive me if this is wrong and please correct me if I should think differently. But I am not just going for a cymbals sound. I want a jaw dropping eye catching cymbal too!  :o :o :o Something that looks unique that not everybody has. Like for example, I saw some Meinl Byzance Dark finish cymbals, awww man, to me they were beautiful. Bronze with nice dark black hammer marks all over. I want something other than just the standard bronze looking blaaah cymbal.

God Bless.
Title: Re: Legacy cymbal review.... I played the Legacys today!
Post by: lilben on March 12, 2006, 08:25:02 AM
Man, and I was at my shop yesterday and didnt even bother to ask!! what an idiot. I did see a really nice Vault Ride....I really liked it. I was picking up a Genera Head and a Glass 500...per your suggestions. I will let you know how that works for me. I also picked up a Protection Racket cymbal bag...and the manager gave me Protection Rackets Deluxe stick bag for free...So I was happy.

Sabe, can you give me a good feel or suggestion on a ride. I love my A Custom Flat...Legacy Ozone?

God Bless.



You coming on through!!!!
Title: Re: Legacy cymbal review.... I played the Legacys today!
Post by: gospodruma on March 12, 2006, 08:29:00 AM
ER is stayin' with Zildjian....he's juss messin' wit y'all...lol






ZILDJIAN RULES!!!! ;D ;) ;D ;)
Title: Re: Legacy cymbal review.... I played the Legacys today!
Post by: lilben on March 12, 2006, 08:32:00 AM
ER is stayin' with Zildjian....he's juss messin' wit y'all...lol






ZILDJIAN RULES!!!! ;D ;) ;D ;)


Man E.R. coming over here. Notice that S in sabian comes before the Z in zildjian so that means Sabian comes first before any of the 2 cymbal companies.
Title: Re: Legacy cymbal review.... I played the Legacys today!
Post by: gospodruma on March 12, 2006, 08:35:20 AM

Man E.R. coming over here. Notice that S in sabian comes before the Z in zildjian so that means Sabian comes first before any of the 2 cymbal companies.
I'm sure you're jokin....but if you want to use dat analogy...I'll let you know the bible says..the 1st shall be the last...and the last 1st.....so, if you're not...well..Zildjian has always been numero uno....hehehehehe
Title: Re: Legacy cymbal review.... I played the Legacys today!
Post by: lilben on March 12, 2006, 08:46:04 AM
I'm sure you're jokin....but if you want to use dat analogy...I'll let you know the bible says..the 1st shall be the last...and the last 1st.....so, if you're not...well..Zildjian has always been numero uno....hehehehehe


LOL!!! Yea I was jokin man. S is also the initials for Second. Now what?
Title: Re: Legacy cymbal review.... I played the Legacys today!
Post by: gospodruma on March 12, 2006, 08:49:55 AM

LOL!!! Yea I was jokin man. S is also the initials for Second, also for Sabian. Now what?
Simply put, Sabian is 2nd to Zildjian...arent you suppose to be in church man, killin' on the keys??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Legacy cymbal review.... I played the Legacys today!
Post by: lilben on March 12, 2006, 08:53:11 AM
Simply put, Sabian is 2nd to Zildjian...arent you suppose to be in church man, killin' on the keys??? ??? ???

Main whateva!!! LOL!!! Our B8 pros spound like yall Acustoms. LOL
Title: Re: Legacy cymbal review.... I played the Legacys today!
Post by: gospodruma on March 12, 2006, 09:00:26 AM
Main whateva!!! LOL!!! Our B8 pros spound like yall Acustoms. LOL
When dat actually happens, lemme know so I can ask God to call His children home...lol. U know the ZBT actually sound exactly like the HHX series.....freal...
Title: Re: Legacy cymbal review.... I played the Legacys today!
Post by: gospodruma on March 12, 2006, 09:01:27 AM
Main whateva!!! LOL!!! Our B8 pros spound like yall Acustoms. LOL
Anyhows, I'm off to get ready for service in abt an hr.....have a blessed Sunday lilben
Title: Re: Legacy cymbal review.... I played the Legacys today!
Post by: j_kay on March 12, 2006, 04:00:57 PM
You guys just 'hijacked' this thread.   Let's get back on track.  I also tapped on them on Friday at Drums2Go.  I didn't hit them enough to get a good A/B comparison (read: A/B comparison with the Legacy and the Evolution cymbals).   ;D
Title: Re: Legacy cymbal review.... I played the Legacys today!
Post by: Eccentric-Rhythm on March 13, 2006, 09:12:21 AM
Are all of the abov mentioned flat? I just picked up the Sabian Sound Catalog, I like the way the HHX Manhattan and HHX Groove Ride look. Also the Tri-top ride?

Forgive me if this is wrong and please correct me if I should think differently. But I am not just going for a cymbals sound. I want a jaw dropping eye catching cymbal too!  :o :o :o Something that looks unique that not everybody has. Like for example, I saw some Meinl Byzance Dark finish cymbals, awww man, to me they were beautiful. Bronze with nice dark black hammer marks all over. I want something other than just the standard bronze looking blaaah cymbal.

God Bless.

Man, these hijackers... **bumping** my post. need an answer or 2.
Title: Re: Legacy cymbal review.... I played the Legacys today!
Post by: SabianKnight on March 13, 2006, 12:32:10 PM
Are all of the abov mentioned flat? I just picked up the Sabian Sound Catalog, I like the way the HHX Manhattan and HHX Groove Ride look. Also the Tri-top ride?

Forgive me if this is wrong and please correct me if I should think differently. But I am not just going for a cymbals sound. I want a jaw dropping eye catching cymbal too!  :o :o :o Something that looks unique that not everybody has. Like for example, I saw some Meinl Byzance Dark finish cymbals, awww man, to me they were beautiful. Bronze with nice dark black hammer marks all over. I want something other than just the standard bronze looking blaaah cymbal.

God Bless.

Ultimatley it is a waste of money to chose a cymbal on looks. THe ugliest cymbals generally sound better unfortunatley.

I own the Tri Top for 3 years now and it is a first rate cymbal. The Salsalero has a very unique look and sound a lot like the Tri-Top to the point my wife wowuld not let me buy it because it sounds just like my Tri-Top. She felt I should expand my sound and she is not a drummer.

The Crystal ride and the Prototype I mentioned are flat the others are not.
Title: Re: Legacy cymbal review.... I played the Legacys today!
Post by: haydenka on March 16, 2006, 11:53:51 AM
Has anyone else got a chance to platy them yet?


I bought the 17" Legacy crash yesterday and it sounds real good.  The sound is dark with a bit of trashiness and is very responsive.  It makes a good combo with the 16" O Zone.
Title: Re: Legacy cymbal review.... I played the Legacys today!
Post by: SabianKnight on March 16, 2006, 11:57:47 AM
Legacy prices:

17" crash - $219
18" crash - $239
12" splash - $134
10" splash - $109
14" hats (pair) - $349

Drums 2 Go
Title: Re: Legacy cymbal review.... I played the Legacys today!
Post by: lilben on March 16, 2006, 02:13:21 PM
Legacy prices:

17" crash - $219
18" crash - $239
12" splash - $134
10" splash - $109
14" hats (pair) - $349

Drums 2 Go


Thanks man. Imma try to get to the Guitar Center or Memphis Drumshop maybe Saturday since I dont have to work.
Title: Re: Legacy cymbal review.... I played the Legacys today!
Post by: blaquegenius on March 16, 2006, 02:33:24 PM
Might have to hit the music store tonight to check them out.

Sabe...that avatar is looking niiiiccceeeee....
Title: Re: Legacy cymbal review.... I played the Legacys today!
Post by: crazyfoot on March 17, 2006, 11:55:54 AM
Sabe i got a chance to check out the legacy ride and crash at g center. Those babies are sweet i like the ride which is dark, smooth, and trashy. I will keep my eyes on those and do a little more testing out!!!!!!!!!!!!!! oh by the way how many cymbals do you have and how do you feel about the sabian metal rides out of the aax line? i was thinking about gettin one! 8)
Title: Re: Legacy cymbal review.... I played the Legacys today!
Post by: SabianKnight on March 17, 2006, 04:43:32 PM
Sabe i got a chance to check out the legacy ride and crash at g center. Those babies are sweet i like the ride which is dark, smooth, and trashy. I will keep my eyes on those and do a little more testing out!!!!!!!!!!!!!! oh by the way how many cymbals do you have and how do you feel about the sabian metal rides out of the aax line? i was thinking about gettin one! 8)

I have 6 on my setup not including the hats (12").  I plane to add a set of hats to my right side via x-hat and anthoer set to my left. 13" & 14 or 13" 15" on the left and 12" on the right.

I don't like the Metal Ride. The AAX Stage is the best Ride in the AAX line in my opinion... reference Lil John Roberts uses it in a 22".... the 20" and 22" are on the 21" is a bit quirky.

I recommend the Signature Tri-Top if you are looking for a nice cutting sound. I own one and it is very versatile. Much more musical than the Metal Ride. I have used in church, Rock , clubs and it holds it down.
Title: Re: Legacy cymbal review.... I played the Legacys today!
Post by: j_kay on March 17, 2006, 08:04:50 PM
I guess that I'll have the dissenting opinion:  I wasn't feeling them at all.  I like the K Custom Hybrids better.   ;D

I'll stick with the Evolutions!   ;D
Title: Re: Legacy cymbal review.... I played the Legacys today!
Post by: Eccentric-Rhythm on March 18, 2006, 07:56:10 AM
I guess that I'll have the dissenting opinion:  I wasn't feeling them at all.  I like the K Custom Hybrids better.   ;D

I'll stick with the Evolutions!   ;D

Wow. Someone doesnt like them. I guess that is a good thing...it means SABIANS are human made after all! haha.  ;D ;D I was beginning to think they were celestial.

God Bless.
Title: Re: Legacy cymbal review.... I played the Legacys today!
Post by: j_kay on March 18, 2006, 09:31:17 AM
Well they are human made; they just happen to be better than Zildjian!   ;D
Title: Re: Legacy cymbal review.... I played the Legacys today!
Post by: Eccentric-Rhythm on March 18, 2006, 08:03:03 PM
Well they are human made; they just happen to be better than Zildjian!   ;D

And the way I am feeling, I think they never used to be, but they are now. I am really liking the Hand Hammered and HHX lines...and I gotta try some Signatures.

God Bless.
Title: Re: Legacy cymbal review.... I played the Legacys today!
Post by: j_kay on March 18, 2006, 11:26:40 PM
Yup, the Hand Hammered series is cool; that's the majority of my collection.   ;D
Title: Re: Legacy cymbal review.... I played the Legacys today!
Post by: Eccentric-Rhythm on March 19, 2006, 07:42:40 AM
Yup, the Hand Hammered series is cool; that's the majority of my collection.   ;D

What is your Ride and Hat choice? I just drew a blank. I think they are called Fusion hats? They have holes in the bottom hat and I know they are available in a few different lines. How are those hats?
Title: Re: Legacy cymbal review.... I played the Legacys today!
Post by: j_kay on March 19, 2006, 11:33:12 AM
Here are my cymbals (all are in brilliant finish):

Sabian's 7" Signature Mike Portnoy Max Splash
Sabian's 10" HHX Evolution Splash
Zildjian's 12" A Custom Mastersound Hi-Hats
Sabian's 13" AAX Fusion Hi-Hats
Sabian's 16" Hand Hammered Dark Crash
Sabian's 17" AAXPlosion Crash
Sabian's 18" Hand Hammered Dark Crash
Sabian's 18" Vault Crash
Sabian's 18" HHX O-Zone Crash
Zildjian's 18" A Custom China
Sabian's 21" Hand Hammered Raw Bell Dry Ride

The AAX Fusion Hats are extremely defined and has a fair amount of wash when played halfway open (considering the extreme weight of the bottom cymbal, which is hand hammered - it also has two 'extra' holes on the opposite sides of the cup) - they record really well. 

Regarding the ride cymbal, the Hand Hammered Raw Bell Dry Ride is also defined from the bell to the bow, with minimal wash (but just enough spread to it).  It is a very crisp sounding ride, and I feel that the contrasting tonal spectrum compliments the AAX Fusion Hats (and my 12" A Custom Mastersound Hi-Hats, which I also use a my main pair from time to time) really well - the hats and the ride are crisp and defined.  What about the bell?  Well, the bell is also very nice.  I wish that it were a little bigger, but that would take away from the 'dry' attribute of the cymbal. 

All in all, I made my choice from the sound clips that are located on sabian.com.  I then ordered the hats from indoorstorm.com and the ride (along with the others, except for the Vault Crash, AAXPlosion Crash, A Custom Mastersound Hi-Hats and A Custom China)from massmusic.net.  Risky, I know, but I lucked up on some really excellent sounding cymbals.   ;D

I hope that this answered your question.   ;D

Title: Re: Legacy cymbal review.... I played the Legacys today!
Post by: JoeLove on March 19, 2006, 12:53:10 PM
sabian are really pushing boundaries - more so than any line...

with paiste you dont really ever get away from a clean sound - even the dark energies.

zildjian are just very plain cymbals in my opinion.

sabian have aa metal-x through to vault and artisan straight to something like the o-zone!

i have 15" hhxtreme protoype hats, 18" and 20" hhx ozones, 14" sabian jack dejohnette first series, 14" sabian will calhoun mad hats and then a load of paistes, including trads, dark energies, sigs and sound creation!

joe
Title: Re: Legacy cymbal review.... I played the Legacys today!
Post by: Eccentric-Rhythm on March 20, 2006, 06:54:52 AM
Here are my cymbals (all are in brilliant finish):

Sabian's 7" Signature Mike Portnoy Max Splash
Sabian's 10" HHX Evolution Splash
Zildjian's 12" A Custom Mastersound Hi-Hats
Sabian's 13" AAX Fusion Hi-Hats
Sabian's 16" Hand Hammered Dark Crash
Sabian's 17" AAXPlosion Crash
Sabian's 18" Hand Hammered Dark Crash
Sabian's 18" Vault Crash
Sabian's 18" HHX O-Zone Crash
Zildjian's 18" A Custom China
Sabian's 21" Hand Hammered Raw Bell Dry Ride

The AAX Fusion Hats are extremely defined and has a fair amount of wash when played halfway open (considering the extreme weight of the bottom cymbal, which is hand hammered - it also has two 'extra' holes on the opposite sides of the cup) - they record really well. 

Regarding the ride cymbal, the Hand Hammered Raw Bell Dry Ride is also defined from the bell to the bow, with minimal wash (but just enough spread to it).  It is a very crisp sounding ride, and I feel that the contrasting tonal spectrum compliments the AAX Fusion Hats (and my 12" A Custom Mastersound Hi-Hats, which I also use a my main pair from time to time) really well - the hats and the ride are crisp and defined.  What about the bell?  Well, the bell is also very nice.  I wish that it were a little bigger, but that would take away from the 'dry' attribute of the cymbal. 

All in all, I made my choice from the sound clips that are located on sabian.com.  I then ordered the hats from indoorstorm.com and the ride (along with the others, except for the Vault Crash, AAXPlosion Crash, A Custom Mastersound Hi-Hats and A Custom China)from massmusic.net.  Risky, I know, but I lucked up on some really excellent sounding cymbals.   ;D

I hope that this answered your question.   ;D



Yes it does. Thanks. The Fusion hats are the main hats from Sabian that have stood out to me. So I am just not sure which line yet.

God Bless.
Title: Re: Legacy cymbal review.... I played the Legacys today!
Post by: rjthakid on March 20, 2006, 09:24:45 AM
Legacy prices:

17" crash - $219
18" crash - $239
12" splash - $134
10" splash - $109
14" hats (pair) - $349

Drums 2 Go

I've been looking for a nice 12" splash.  $134 sounds good to me   ;D
Title: Re: Legacy cymbal review.... I played the Legacys today!
Post by: SabianKnight on March 20, 2006, 11:26:33 PM
sabian are really pushing boundaries - more so than any line...

with paiste you dont really ever get away from a clean sound - even the dark energies.

zildjian are just very plain cymbals in my opinion.

sabian have aa metal-x through to vault and artisan straight to something like the o-zone!

i have 15" hhxtreme protoype hats, 18" and 20" hhx ozones, 14" sabian jack dejohnette first series, 14" sabian will calhoun mad hats and then a load of paistes, including trads, dark energies, sigs and sound creation!

joe

Discribe the Madd Hats sound... I have been wanting to here them The Lunar Ride and his other signature ride but you cannot find them. I guess when I get picked up I'll have to go get them, LOL.