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Main => Ministry, M.O.M, Praise Teams and Choirs => Topic started by: ReddGirl on March 30, 2006, 10:23:28 AM
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What are your thoughts?
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What are your thoughts?
Great topic! Yes the praise and worship ministry has become such a powerhouse that the choirs have been swallowed up. It is easy to work with 6to9 praise team people that 20to100 choir people and get, 8out10, better results I say, but overall I love the choirs and deeply miss them. I WILL STEP OUT ON A LIMB AND SAY THAT THERE IS NOTHING LIKE A POWERFUL ANNOINTED CHOIR CHIRPING FOR JESUS!!! Bishop Cole
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What exactly do you mean by "weakened"?
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I feel ya bishopcole....I remember the old days at my home church when "anyone" would just start singing a song and everyone else just joined in (before the service started). I kinda miss that old time churrrch feeling.
As far as weakening the choir...I don't know about all that, however, I do get a sense that the Praise and Worship teams that I've seen have a "diva virtuoso" vibe to them.............whatever that means.
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I understand what ReddGirl is saying. There are advantages and disadvantages in this situation. Advantage, depending or not on the size of your choir, the praise team is usually powerful enough to withstand the same sound level if any of the rest of the choir decides that they may want to sleep in and not want to come to church on any given Sunday, so your sound quality doesn't drop off dramatically. My praise team has to be able to pull the full load just in case on any and every song we do, my choir has 40 members. Advantage, dedication and commitment and leadership which is key, just to name a couple. Disadvantage, some members of Praise groups love the limelight setting a bad example for any future praise members or soloist. Disadvantage, Some forget that they were part of the main choir or where they came from and may have attitudes. There are all sorts of advantages and diadvantages, but in my opinion, the Advantages weigh in far more than the disadvantages because if in its truth, it really take a lot of commitment and dedication and there may only be a few "glory hounds" hanging around the mics making it miserable for some choirs unfortunately. We are not all perfect people. So I say overall the choir is not weakened because through prayer God strenghtens and keep it going on but you do have a point on certain issues.
johncomo
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I'm blessed already by this ministry. This is my first time being in a choir in a few years, and things have changed quite a bit. I was a part of a praise and worship team at one time. There must of been about 20 of us who just loved praising the Lord. We would all be doing it together with one leader who would rotate.There was not any one "star". Then we were reduced to a handful that were hand picked by the new choir director that was bought in. I believe he was the pastor's friend who needed a job. The whole spirit in the church changed. It seemed to become the gospel trio show. I was leaving California to move to Georgia when this change happened. Now when I go back home, i see a ghost of a church. The spontaneity is gone. The worship seems stilted at times. The "joy", what little there is, seems planned. It comes alive at times, but it never really reaches the Glory and presence of the Lord that was there before. I learned a great lesson. Now, I'm part of a new choir at a new church, and really praying about praise and whorship. Our congregation needs to be taught. I believe the Lord will bless the entire church by allowing us to enter his Glorious presense through our praise and worship. Pray for our Church! ... and pray for my old church.
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If anything a prasie and worship team thats on fire for the lord should infect the choir so that it should set the choir on fire......however there is to much division amongst them.....i have seen the prasie team that dont want to sing with the choir...whatz up wit dat!!!!......the quicker we come together the better it well be for all parties .....
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praise teams are usually the most gifted, dedicaed,spirit filled members of the choir. Also they are usually hand picked.
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praise teams are usually the most gifted, dedicaed,spirit filled members of the choir. Also they are usually hand picked.
I don't know about that
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I don't know about that
LOL ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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praise teams are usually the most gifted, dedicaed,spirit filled members of the choir. Also they are usually hand picked.
Well I can't talk for anyone but myself, and I have found in my playing at various churches, the praise team is the attitudish, haughty, won't live right folks, with talent... And because of this "talent" they feel like they make the service....
OK Enough about that, I have had a church choir of some sort under my leadership since 12, and the praise teams that I have had to deal with, thought that they were the best part of the musical worship, (if I can use that term) when really it was the choir that everyone including the pastor looked for... The praise team just liked to hear themselves sing in their own mic...
Ima close with this, I personally don't believe in praise teams... I come from a sanctified church, and I feel like the praise team has furthered the "entertainment spirit" on sunday morning.
Ok to the original post, yes I think that it has weakened the choir... What ever happened to good church choirs???? With robes, and "tammerines"??? I guess that was the 70's and 80's huh???
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Our church does not have a Praise Team. We got a huge chior w/ tamborines. We do have little groups like we got a male and female quartette,a trio of sisters that can sing the church to peices, and some duos and thangs. In my opinion the praise team has not weakened the chior cuz my church ain't got no praise team. I would always choose a chior over a praise team( no offense to anybody). I agree w/ bishopcole
I WILL STEP OUT ON A LIMB AND SAY THAT THERE IS NOTHING LIKE A POWERFUL ANNOINTED CHOIR CHIRPING FOR JESUS!!! Bishop Cole
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I feel it has. I am going to say that i am starting to see this trend where.....there is somewhat of a choir but the only ones u can really hear is the praise team. What is the choir there for? Cause it looks good? I am ok with praise team. But let them just do Praise and worship and when its time for the choir let the choir sing......i really call it cheating....because u really dont have to rehearse and perfect the choir as whole u just have to worry about the Praise Team. I am choir boy...I LOVE a good annointed choir.....Its just BEAUTIFUL when all the voices come together to make a joyful noise unto the LORD....A group, Praise Team, Ensemble whatever just cant pull that off. Its just not the same. And yes i see the trend of Praise Team members having attitudes. Its just a shame. All i can do is pray for them. :)
GOD BLESS
T
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Yes.
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no i dont think so because even though you may have a praise team the people singing it it the mojority of the time out in the choirs. it depends on what you mean by weakened though if your talking about people coming out of choirs to sing in praise teams the answer would be NO but if your just saying all around choirs are just going down the drain i would say No to that to.
% choirs started recently in my conference to go be the glory
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Yes... I sing on the praise team for my church, and what has happened is that the choir has gotten lazy. My pastor pushes the praise team to the max though... and I understand cause Praise and Worship is so very important... but dang, the choir is just like blah... They dont learn new songs, we carry the music ministry to the different levels. I just pray for them that they strengthen back up, cause we need them too.
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Great points. I think the PT is more a glory position and takes away from the unit or team aspect
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I belong to a small church we recently started a praise team but during the praise and worship service the congregation can still sing a song on their heart or testify whatever. We just "encourage" the service through song. There is no eliteness or superiority because the five of us are also on the choir. We don't need to be entertained into worshipping God, as individuals, you should come to church ready to praise and worship with or without a praise team or choir. We recently lost our drummer so all we got is foot stompers and tambourines, God will send musicians in due time, but having a house band is not a requirement of Worship. I am an instrument of PRAISE! :D
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I belong to a small church we recently started a praise team but during the praise and worship service the congregation can still sing a song on their heart or testify whatever. We just "encourage" the service through song. There is no eliteness or superiority because the five of us are also on the choir. We don't need to be entertained into worshipping God, as individuals, you should come to church ready to praise and worship with or without a praise team or choir. We recently lost our drummer so all we got is foot stompers and tambourines, God will send musicians in due time, but having a house band is not a requirement of Worship. I am an instrument of PRAISE! :D
I think that is wonderful!
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Well I can't talk for anyone but myself, and I have found in my playing at various churches, the praise team is the attitudish, haughty,..............The praise team just liked to hear themselves sing in their own mic... I feel like the praise team has furthered the "entertainment spirit" on sunday morning.
You hit on some points there. Many of the people I have seen on praise teams are mic hogs and want to be seen. Seem to be masters of the annointing and yet have none. LOL Also some team leaders have a superiority complex over the choir and dont want to sit under leadership.
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Yes, it has weakned the choir. I think feel that is harder now to find music for the choir because most of the artist's muisc is praise and worship. You rarely here "choir" songs anymore. It is all praise and worship. If any of you can suggests choirs for me to listen too, post me back. thanks.
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Its funny I am seeing this topic because I was coming on here to ask some advice about a similar situation. There has been a praise team formed in our church also. We also have 2 other Choir. 1) The Overall Choir which sings and rehearses every so ofter 2) we have a choir we call Total Praise, they don't sing every week but they do rehearse weekly to learn new songs. 3) The Praise Team.
The praise team is the one thats hand picked. The choirs are open to anyone. I actually lead the Total Praise Choir and i am not sure how to look at this situation. share with me some scriptures that would help my heart look at this in a righteous way please.
Situation.
The total Praise Choir has a selection of songs that we have been singing and we pick up new ones every so often. Well I was just informed that the Praise Team is taking one of the songs that The Total Praise Choir has been singing and they are going to sing it. I do know that the Total Praise Choir will struggle with this situation because they feel like they are not respected when it comes to singing a lot of times. I would like some input on this situation. ?/?
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i miss choirs :'( :'( :'( :'(
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To a certain degree, I think yes. I really think it depends on individuals in the praise team, musicians, etc. 1st of all, all songs belong to God. So, one sect should not be able to really take a song from another. Both groups should be able to sing it and bring their uniqueness or interpretation to it. 2nd - Choose praise team members with the right spirit - not the right voices - and find the right songs to encourage the pastor and the congregation. I like to think of a praise team as that HOT cup of coffee before everyone is fully awake. So, I think the praise team should complement the choir. But, the wrong attitudes can cause really big problems and rivalries. When that happens, I say terminate the praise team - until everyone is "mature" enough to handle the experience.
You know, every once in awhile you'll have a diva in a choir. I think the choir director's job is to encourage, but also to spiritually check - not in an obnoxious manner. Just find some other people to put out front for awhile or use songs that don't require leads for awhile. But, work with some of those voices that we would call average. And, even work with some voices, that you may think are hopeless. It's not unusual for someone to sing and the notes may not be right, but man when you heard the words, you could feel the spirit and it was actually better than the Whitney wanna be.
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matter of fact you can tell that choirs for the most have been weaken just look at how many choirs released cds to how many groups or soloist have released cds over the last 10yrs. there has been a great decline in choirs putting out cds.
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i miss choirs :'( :'( :'( :'(
I do, too, man. I love praise teams - for praise and worship, but nothing, and I mean NOTHING can take the place of a choir. Especially one with robes and tambourines!! At least when I go to the Jurisdictional Convocation musicals I still get top hear good choirs, the state choir, etc. For a choir-lover like me, I thank GOD for COGIC!!!
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loopy you brought a tear to my eye
do you remember midnight musicals on friday night during convocation
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OFTEN TIMES THE CONGREGATION VIEWS THE PRAISE TEAM AS THE "CHEERLEADERS" OF THE CHURCH. TO GET THEM PUMPED AND PRIMED FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE SERVICE. I ENJOY THE PRAISE TEAM!! I THINK THEY ARE AN INTREGAL PART. THE CHOIR SEEMS TO BE THE PORTION OF THE SERVICE TO SET THE PASTOR UP PRIOR TO BRINGING THE WORD.
BUT I DON'T THINK THE PRAISE TEAM WEAKENS, BUT SHOULD REINFORCE THE CHOIRS EFFORTS.
B BLESSED
FANTOM
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I feel like yes praise teams have kinda taken over...but its not over for choirs at all..I'm praise and worship leader at my church, and i find that it is alot easier to teach a praise team then a choir...but there is nothing like an off the chain choir...I mean it leaves u breathless...
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loopy you brought a tear to my eye
do you remember midnight musicals on friday night during convocation
YES LAWD!!! Those were the days! Remember, many of the BEST singers EVER were products of midnight musicals and state choirs!
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A moment of silence for CHOIRS (I dont mean oversized praise teams).........choirs will make a comeback
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This is a very interesting topic, and I want to add my two cents. I don't think that Praise Teams have weakened Choirs, and I certainly don't think that they can replace choirs. I do believe that there is a wonderful purpose intended by God to have saints enter into corporate worship in spirit and in truth.
When Choirs sing, they sing a few selections before the Man or Woman of God brings forth the word. The idea is to set the tone for the ministry. Sometimes there is just a solo selection done by someone.
However, when the Praise and Worship Teams sing, the idea is for the congregation to join in with the singing and ultimately enter into the worship experience. It's a special place where we worship Him, and I'm sure that you've heard of this place. It's called the (Holy of Holies).
In closing, I truly believe that whatever we do for Christ should be done in spirit and in truth whether we're a Choir or a Praise Team. We need to remember that we are all in this together, and all the Glory goes to God.
Be Blessed
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This is a very interesting topic, and I want to add my two cents. I don't think that Praise Teams have weakened Choirs, and I certainly don't think that they can replace choirs. I do believe that there is a wonderful purpose intended by God to have saints enter into corporate worship in spirit and in truth.
When Choirs sing, they sing a few selections before the Man or Woman of God brings forth the word. The idea is to set the tone for the ministry. Sometimes there is just a solo selection done by someone.
However, when the Praise and Worship Teams sing, the idea is for the congregation to join in with the singing and ultimately enter into the worship experience. It's a special place where we worship Him, and I'm sure that you've heard of this place. It's called the (Holy of Holies).
In closing, I truly believe that whatever we do for Christ should be done in spirit and in truth whether we're a Choir or a Praise Team. We need to remember that we are all in this together, and all the Glory goes to God.
Be Blessed
sounds like you dont go to a new age church most new mega or wannabe mega churches primarily use praise teams in the place of choirs and some are so bad that they use choirs to back up a praise team
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Don't take this the wrong way, but when you hear music, you want it to sound good. I say that because someone mentioned that one should look for the best spirit and not just the best talent (voice), and although that sounds good, everyone was not called to sing. But I also think that a person that can sing their butts off but don't have any anointing can't move anybody into worship. The key is balance, a good voice and the right spirit, and although it may be hard to find, I doubt it's impossible.
I love choir music. I think that's why D. Lawrence is one of my favorite gospel artists. The solo artists are nice, but I grew up in choirs that were pretty big time locally (in Atlanta) and maybe even further (Free for All, T.S. Clay), and to this day I still remember some of those songs we used to sing, and me and my cousins and aunts and uncles will break one out in a minute. That music stays with you. And although it may be harder to work with more people, the right person can make just about anybody sound good (trust me I know some). And the sound that comes from a great choir, undescribable. I LOVE IT!!!
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sounds like you dont go to a new age church most new mega or wannabe mega churches primarily use praise teams in the place of choirs and some are so bad that they use choirs to back up a praise team
Your'e right I don't belong to a new age church, but I've been around, and I'm still convinced that Praise Teams do not weaken Choirs.
Msmoody makes a relevant point when she posted that there should be a balance in whatever ministry you are involved in.
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should be and is are two different things
perception isnt truth
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Whether or not the advent of the praise team weakening the choir varys from church to church. Point blank and period. As far as finding "choir" music, there's still plenty of stuff out there. One has to be willing to look, or begin to write songs yourself.
I think we put too much emphasis on placing the blame on other people not meeting our expectations of how things should be, when we can resolve these issues ourselves.
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sjonathan please name 5 recording choirs worth listening to and i mean choirs not oversized praise teams that has put something out within the last year and ill even give a headstart
1. Hezekiah Walker & LFC
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I know this challenge was given to Sjon, but I'll bite if that's OK! ;) (Sjon feel free to add any that I miss)
1. Hezekiah Walker & L.F.C. - "The 20/85 Experience"
2. Reed's Temple Choir - "Now Is The Time"
3. Bishop Eddie Long & the New Birth Total Praise Choir - "A New Beginning"
4. Donald lawrence & the Tri-City Singers - "The Finale (Acts I and II)"
5. Darrel Petties & S.I.P. - "Count It All Joy"
6. New Direction - "Send the Praise"
7. Rodnie Bryant & CCMC - "Change of Seasons"
8. Eddie Baltrip & Fulfillment - "Instrument of Praise"
9. Youthful Praise - "Live...The Praise!...The Worship!"
10. Malcolm Williams & Great Faith - "Walking In My Destiny"
11. Walt Whitman & the Soul Children of Chicago - "Reaching the Nations"
These are just SOME of the choir-oriented projects that have been released recently, most of them Billboard-charting projects. Looks like choir music is not as "dead" as we think!!!! It's definitely out there, and there is still a demand for it!!
BTW< I would even venture to say that Tye Tribbett and G.A.'s "Victory" is a choir project, too!! I know I will be teaching a couple of the songs to my youth choir. And this is not to even mention the choir projects that are on the horizon, like James Hall's new one slated to be released later this year!
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I know this challenge was given to Sjon, but I'll bite if that's OK! ;) (Sjon feel free to add any that I miss)
1. Hezekiah Walker & L.F.C. - "The 20/85 Experience"
2. Reed's Temple Choir - "Now Is The Time"
3. Bishop Eddie Long & the New Birth Total Praise Choir - "A New Beginning"
4. Donald lawrence & the Tri-City Singers - "The Finale (Acts I and II)"
5. Darrel Petties & S.I.P. - "Count It All Joy"
6. New Direction - "Send the Praise"
7. Rodnie Bryant & CCMC - "Change of Seasons"
8. Eddie Baltrip & Fulfillment - "Instrument of Praise"
9. Youthful Praise - "Live...The Praise!...The Worship!"
10. Malcolm Williams & Great Faith - "Walking In My Destiny"
11. Walt Whitman & the Soul Children of Chicago - "Reaching the Nations"
These are just SOME of the choir-oriented projects that have been released recently, most of them Billboard-charting projects. Looks like choir music is not as "dead" as we think!!!! It's definitely out there, and there is still a demand for it!!
BTW< I would even venture to say that Tye Tribbett and G.A.'s "Victory" is a choir project, too!! I know I will be teaching a couple of the songs to my youth choir. And this is not to even mention the choir projects that are on the horizon, like James Hall's new one slated to be released later this year!
You're missing the tried and true choirs
1. Georgia Mass Choir
2. Chicago Mass Choir
3. Mississippi Mass Choir
4. Shekinah Glory Ministries
5. Colorado Mass Choir
Now, you may feel some type of way about these choirs (or their type of music/sound, etc); and you're perfectly within your right to feel that way. However, the choir isn't going away any time soon. ;)
You know, I misread your post. I thought it read 'in the last 5 years'. But, I still stand by statements and choices for that matter.
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What are your thoughts?
Nope
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I know this challenge was given to Sjon, but I'll bite if that's OK! ;) (Sjon feel free to add any that I miss)
1. Hezekiah Walker & L.F.C. - "The 20/85 Experience"
2. Reed's Temple Choir - "Now Is The Time"
3. Bishop Eddie Long & the New Birth Total Praise Choir - "A New Beginning"
4. Donald lawrence & the Tri-City Singers - "The Finale (Acts I and II)"
5. Darrel Petties & S.I.P. - "Count It All Joy"
6. New Direction - "Send the Praise"
7. Rodnie Bryant & CCMC - "Change of Seasons"
8. Eddie Baltrip & Fulfillment - "Instrument of Praise"
9. Youthful Praise - "Live...The Praise!...The Worship!"
10. Malcolm Williams & Great Faith - "Walking In My Destiny"
11. Walt Whitman & the Soul Children of Chicago - "Reaching the Nations"
These are just SOME of the choir-oriented projects that have been released recently, most of them Billboard-charting projects. Looks like choir music is not as "dead" as we think!!!! It's definitely out there, and there is still a demand for it!!
BTW< I would even venture to say that Tye Tribbett and G.A.'s "Victory" is a choir project, too!! I know I will be teaching a couple of the songs to my youth choir. And this is not to even mention the choir projects that are on the horizon, like James Hall's new one slated to be released later this year!
I'll respond according to me which doesnt make it absolute truth but my own opinion
1. I agree
2. not a fan
3. havent heard it hope its better than the first
4. mostly older songs make this cd so to me doesnt count
5. have never heard of them will check them out
6. me like
7. mediocre
8. didnt like
9. love it
10. same as 5
11. just ok
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I'll respond according to me which doesnt make it absolute truth but my own opinion
1. I agree
2. not a fan
3. havent heard it hope its better than the first
4. mostly older songs make this cd so to me doesnt count
5. have never heard of them will check them out
6. me like
7. mediocre
8. didnt like
9. love it
10. same as 5
11. just ok
You are entiltled to your opinion, but correct me if I'm wrong, you DID say to name at least 5 recording choirs that put stuff out within the last year, didn't you? Well I gave you 11!. I don't LIKE everything on that list either, but it was all choir stuff. So how can you "agree" or "not agree" with what's on the list based on whether you like it or not? That's not in LINE with your original challenge! Not blasting you for your opinion, brutha, I'm only saying this because you put the word "agree" in the #1 spot, denoting that you "agree" with my (and your) selection of Hezekiah Walker.
BTW, Donald Lawrence had plenty of NEW songs on his finale CD, (Blessing of Abraham, Giants, Heir, Encourage Yourself, Matthew 28, These Nails, God Is, God) so this DOES count!
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i originally post these exact words Choirs Worth Listening To. as far as d. lawrence i like his stuff but again to ME the old songs made me like the cd. so i did state worth listening and i dont listen to anything i dont like but its cool
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i originally post these exact words Choirs Worth Listening To. as far as d. lawrence i like his stuff but again to ME the old songs made me like the cd. so i did state worth listening and i dont listen to anything i dont like but its cool
You are correct Musiqisme26 that you said choirs worth listening to. Like you said, that is totally a matter of opinion. I have known many a choir song that I DID NOT like on the original recordings at all, but were killer songs when sung in church by the choir.
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Sooo.....has the Praise Team weakened the choir¿
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Re: Has the Praise Team weakened the Choir? it hasent weakened ours,if anything,when we both work together????wow,let's just say" Get Your Shout On".....all praise to the most high,and for further questionsm,as a reminder of why we do what we do to the glory of the Lord,we need to turn to Psalms,and pick a book,any book from there.
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Live in South Africa is in heavy rotation for me but I personally cant count Isreal & New Breed as a choir, I call them an oversized praise team. I mean how may choirs are singing his stuff i really dont know of any but how many P&W teams are I know of many that are. the fact some churches who are big enough that had big choirs that are no more cuz the songs that are relevant in todays services come from praise teams. Dont get me wrong choirs arent dead or forgotten but at one time a choir was the thing for a black church
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Live in South Africa is in heavy rotation for me but I personally cant count Isreal & New Breed as a choir, I call them an oversized praise team. I mean how may choirs are singing his stuff i really dont know of any but how many P&W teams are I know of many that are. the fact some churches who are big enough that had big choirs that are no more cuz the songs that are relevant in todays services come from praise teams. Dont get me wrong choirs arent dead or forgotten but at one time a choir was the thing for a black church
I agree with this point except that Israel's group is by no means an oversized praise team....They only have 6 singers.....
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Very,Very well put "rdperry1". All that we do should be done in spirit,and in truth.Again,i say,we use our praise team to kinda warm up the sanctuary before service.I've been waiting to march in with the chior,and the praise team would have the whole church on there feet,singing,praising,it would get us(the chior) all fired up to get ready to do our part.I just think it trully depends on the church,and if they have enough dedicated people to form a chior.Cause we all know,getting a whole group together can trully be rough,so if you can get 5,or6,dedicated souls to sing unto the glory of God,and be dedicated,and faithful,than so be it ,only for that church.But by no means will praise teams replace chiors as a whole.
like i said,read psalms,it tells it all about praise and worship.
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Live in South Africa is in heavy rotation for me but I personally cant count Isreal & New Breed as a choir, I call them an oversized praise team. I mean how may choirs are singing his stuff i really dont know of any but how many P&W teams are I know of many that are. the fact some churches who are big enough that had big choirs that are no more cuz the songs that are relevant in todays services come from praise teams. Dont get me wrong choirs arent dead or forgotten but at one time a choir was the thing for a black church
Whether or not the advent of the praise team weakening the choir varys from church to church. Point blank and period. As far as finding "choir" music, there's still plenty of stuff out there. One has to be willing to look, or begin to write songs yourself.
I think we put too much emphasis on placing the blame on other people not meeting our expectations of how things should be, when we can resolve these issues ourselves.
Unless there's something I'm missing, you are agreeing with what I posted a few days ago. As fas as Israel & New Breed being a choir, they aren't; an oversized praise team; they aren't (by virtue of members.
Now, as for singing music that is "relevant', I would love to fully understand what you mean by that. Please, note that I'm not attacking you; and maybe I should go first.
For me, music that is relevant in today's church, is music that can tap into the spirit of God and speak to His people. It's not about the chords or the catchy chorus, as a matter of fact, it's not about the music in and of iself. It's about the way the music can touch the heart and the lives of the people.
Using that as a "definition", then I'd say, "yes" Israel & New Breed are singing and playing music that is relevant in today's churches. But, they aren't the only group that is ministering that kind of music. There are choirs out there that are doing that, as well; and some have been named in this thread.
I hope that I have been able to clear up my point of view. It ain't gospel, it's my opinion. :D
Be Blessed
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I agree with this point except that Israel's group is by no means an oversized praise team....They only have 6 singers.....
now i aint been to school in a minute but i know i saw more than 6 members on the video??