LearnGospelMusic.com Community

Gospel Instruments => Gospel Keyboard / Piano => Topic started by: T-Block on April 04, 2006, 02:53:15 PM

Title: Gospel Turnarounds
Post by: T-Block on April 04, 2006, 02:53:15 PM: Let's start a thread of gospel turnarounds. If you can add a gospel turnaround, please do so. I'll start things off:

Here is a gospel turnaround for you all. For all you theory buffs, I call this the 3-4-5-6-7-1 progression. You can use this when going back to 1:

Key C LH/RH

Version 1:

E / G-C-E (3)
F / A-D-F (4)
G / G-C-E (5)
A / F#-C-D# (6)
B / F-B-D (7)
C / E-G-C (1)

Version 1 explanation chord by chord:

E / G-C-E (3) = C major chord, 3rd scale degree and 3rd of the chord in the bass

F / A-D-F (4) *D minor chord, 4th scale degree and 3rd of the chord in the bass

G / G-C-E (5) *C major chord, 5th scaled degree and 5th of the chord G in the bass

A / F#-C-D# (6) *A diminished 7th/fully diminished chord, 6th scale degree and root of the chord in the bass

B / F-B-D (7) *B diminished chord, 7th scale degree and root of the chord in the bass

C / E-G-C (1) *C major chord, 1st scale degree and root of the chord in the bass

Version 2:

E / G-C-E (3)
F / A-D-F (4)
G / G-C-E (5)
A / F#-C-D# (6)
B / F-A-D (7)
C / E-G-C (1)

Version 2 explanation chord by chord:

E / G-C-E (3) = C major chord, 3rd scale degree and 3rd of the chord in the bass

F / A-D-F (4) *D minor chord, 4th scale degree and 3rd of the chord in the bass

G / G-C-E (5) *C major chord, 5th scaled degree and 5th of the chord G in the bass

A / F#-C-D# (6) *A diminished 7th chord, 6th scale degree and root of the chord in the bass

B / F-A-D (7) *B half-diminished chord, 7th scale degree and root of the chord in the bass

C / E-G-C (1) *C major chord, 1st scale degree and root of the chord in the bass

This is an old school gospel Turnaround that you can find on songs like "Marvelous" by T.D. Jakes and "Jesus" by John P. Kee. There are some other song, but those the only 2 I can think of right now.

Remember, if anyone else has a Gospel Turnaround you would like to share, feel free to add it here!!! Please, if you don't mind, can yall post them all in the key of C, so it's easier for everyone. Thanks!!!
Title: Re: Gospel Turnarounds
Post by: playhear on April 04, 2006, 03:16:31 PM: Good old 7-3-6-2-5-1 in C:

B / D Gb A Db
E / D Gb G B
A / C E G B
D / C E F A
G / B E F A
C / B C E G

Notice that I generally like a small amount in my right hand fingers. I just dig the sound.
Title: Re: Gospel Turnarounds
Post by: playhear on April 04, 2006, 03:19:32 PM: small amount of movement
Title: Re: Gospel Turnarounds
Post by: sjonathan02 on April 05, 2006, 08:24:31 AM: Will this work:

Variation 1: 2-3-4-#4-5-3-6-2-5-1

D/ A C F (2)      D minor chord
E/ G C E (3)      C Major chord with E in the L.H.
F/ A C F (4)      F Major chord
F#/ A D F# (#4)      D Major chord with F# in the L.H.
G/ A C F (5)      G 11 chord
E/ Bb D G (3)      E minor chord with a b5
A/ C# E G (6)      A Major 7th chord
D/ A C F (2)      D minor chord
G/ B E G# (5)      G 6 b9
C/ B D E G (1)      C add 9
Title: Re: Gospel Turnarounds
Post by: diverse379 on April 05, 2006, 09:25:22 AM: This is a strange turn around i use sometimes
Eb/ F# bb db F 2 beats
Ab/ F# Bb c F 2 Beats
A/ Ab Db 1 beat
B / Bb Eb 3 beats

repeat

This is a nice 4 to 1 move but you dont resolve this one
Bb/ACDF
A/GCDF
F/FBbDF
F#/ Eb Ab Db F just hang on this chord the f at the top of the chord establishes the F
This is an old stand by using a deceptive cadence

2-5-=6 -2-5-1
D/ FACE
G/ FABE
A/GCC#F
D/FACE
G/FAbBE
C/GABD

T-block I heard a similar one to yours where they inserted a note i think on the Ab or maybe it was the Bb or it could have been the F# I d ont know but there were chords in all

I think it was
E F F# dim G/c A6 b5 Bb G/B

But i am not sure

do you know what I am talking about?
Title: Re: Gospel Turnarounds
Post by: diverse379 on April 05, 2006, 09:51:56 AM: I thought of two more these are like licking turnarounds

in the key of F

C - AC -BbD- AC- AC- F C- B- Bb- A -ACF

This is an old blues lick you have to play the notes real quick
the second AC- F C is a triplet the rest are swung 8th notes

And you are suppose to play grace notes from the Ab to the A

And here is a alkup to the five
F/ FAbB db
F#/ EGBb Db
G/ EbF#ADb
Ab/DbFAbDb
Ab F#CEAB
Title: Re: Gospel Turnarounds
Post by: rjthakid on April 05, 2006, 10:28:20 AM: I personally would like some OLD-SCHOOL gospel turnarounds. Something you'd here in an old baptist church in Alabama in 1964
:D :D :D

Something alot of southern gospel flava. I've been looking for a good DVD that would show me, but I can't find any :(
Title: Re: Gospel Turnarounds
Post by: diverse379 on April 05, 2006, 10:57:22 AM: No DVD that i know of but check homespun tapes they have two gospel videos by this lady Ethel caffie austin from west virginia
all her stuff is reall old school traditional but it is very cool that was my first intor to gospel

she does Oh when the saints
angels
standing in the need of prayer
Amazing grace
cant nobody
Blessed assurance lay down my burdens

she teaches several styles in fact i need to revisit these
Title: Re: Gospel Turnarounds
Post by: diverse379 on April 05, 2006, 10:59:28 AM: Quote from: rjthakid on April 05, 2006, 10:28:20 AM
I personally would like some OLD-SCHOOL gospel turnarounds. Something you'd here in an old baptist church in Alabama in 1964
:D :D :D

Something alot of southern gospel flava. I've been looking for a good DVD that would show me, but I can't find any :(

T blocks turn around is old school and the the walk up i printed is pretty old school

And the blues lick i put up is as old as it gets
Title: Re: Gospel Turnarounds
Post by: rjthakid on April 05, 2006, 11:02:41 AM: Yea, that blues one you did is really what I'm talkin about.
Title: Re: Gospel Turnarounds
Post by: DaNatiMaestro on April 05, 2006, 02:06:23 PM: Quote from: rjthakid on April 05, 2006, 10:28:20 AM
I personally would like some OLD-SCHOOL gospel turnarounds. Something you'd here in an old baptist church in Alabama in 1964
:D :D :D

Something alot of southern gospel flava. I've been looking for a good DVD that would show me, but I can't find any :(

Here is some REAL OLD SCHOOL for you... this run is as old batist church as it gets... It's in the MIDI format

Here is another run that you can add to your toolbox.
Church Blues Run in C - CLICK HERE! (http://homepages.uc.edu/~strayhjr/music/3625RunC.mid)

Here are the details behind it.. basically you're doing this run over a 3-6-2-5-1 progression..

So in C (which is the key of the MIDI file), the basic chords would be..
Em -> A7 -> Dm -> G7 -> Cmaj7

This is exactly what I'm doing on the MIDI... it would be hard to write out this run as it is really all about the timing and rhythm of it.

The MIDI is broken up into 4 tracks
1 - Piano RH Run
2 - Piano LH Chords (Rootless voicings)
3 - Bass
4 - Woodblock (acting as a metronome so that you can feel the timing)

With VanBasco MIDI player you can change tempo, keys and turn off any of these tracks.
Title: Re: Gospel Turnarounds
Post by: T-Block on April 05, 2006, 02:29:15 PM: These are some really sweet Turnarounds guys. Let's keep it going!!!

YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH
Title: Re: Gospel Turnarounds
Post by: rjthakid on April 05, 2006, 02:34:58 PM: Quote from: diverse379 on April 05, 2006, 10:57:22 AM
No DVD that i know of but check homespun tapes they have two gospel videos by this lady Ethel caffie austin from west virginia
all her stuff is reall old school traditional but it is very cool that was my first intor to gospel

she does Oh when the saints
angels
standing in the need of prayer
Amazing grace
cant nobody
Blessed assurance lay down my burdens

she teaches several styles in fact i need to revisit these

Don't remind me. It is on DVD now. I've had it for some time, but she's not too good at explaining what she's doing. She'll do some Soulful movement of about 6 or 7 chords, then she'll break down a PIECE of it if any. >:(

I will say this: The stuff that she was playing was EXACTLY what I'm looking for. Her talent is far beyond that of Jermaine Griggs, but she just can't teach as well.
Title: Re: Gospel Turnarounds
Post by: rjthakid on April 05, 2006, 02:40:09 PM: Quote from: DaNatiMaestro on April 05, 2006, 02:06:23 PM
Here is some REAL OLD SCHOOL for you... this run is as old batist church as it gets... It's in the MIDI format

Here is another run that you can add to your toolbox.
Church Blues Run in C - CLICK HERE! ([url]http://homepages.uc.edu/~strayhjr/music/3625RunC.mid[/url])

Here are the details behind it.. basically you're doing this run over a 3-6-2-5-1 progression..

So in C (which is the key of the MIDI file), the basic chords would be..
Em -> A7 -> Dm -> G7 -> Cmaj7

This is exactly what I'm doing on the MIDI... it would be hard to write out this run as it is really all about the timing and rhythm of it.

The MIDI is broken up into 4 tracks
1 - Piano RH Run
2 - Piano LH Chords (Rootless voicings)
3 - Bass
4 - Woodblock (acting as a metronome so that you can feel the timing)

With VanBasco MIDI player you can change tempo, keys and turn off any of these tracks.

Thanks man!

It's beginning to look alot like Christmas. :D :D :D
Title: Re: Gospel Turnarounds
Post by: diverse379 on April 05, 2006, 05:35:48 PM: Quote from: rjthakid on April 05, 2006, 02:34:58 PM
Don't remind me. It is on DVD now. I've had it for some time, but she's not too good at explaining what she's doing. She'll do some Soulful movement of about 6 or 7 chords, then she'll break down a PIECE of it if any. >:(

I will say this: The stuff that she was playing was EXACTLY what I'm looking for. Her talent is far beyond that of Jermaine Griggs, but she just can't teach as well.

I feel you i thought the same thing when I had it but you know what those 7 or 8 chords are the fancy things like she says bit by bit You may not get every thing on the first go around

but learn what you can at least be able to play the simpler version then add little pieces to it

in the mean time you can TRANSPOSE those songs man

;D :o

But her tape is it man you have to realize she is really gining some advanced inteermediate

stuff so it may take you a year to get to the advanced stuff maybe more
Title: Re: Gospel Turnarounds
Post by: rjthakid on April 06, 2006, 03:23:01 PM: Quote from: T-Block on April 04, 2006, 02:53:15 PM
Let's start a thread of gospel turnarounds. If you can add a gospel turnaround, please do so. I'll start things off:

Here is a gospel turnaround for you all. For all you theory buffs, I call this the 3-4-5-6-7-1 progression. You can use this when going back to 1:

Key C LH/RH

Version 1:

E / G-C-E (3)
F / A-D-F (4)
G / G-C-E (5)
A / F#-C-D# (6)
B / F-B-D (7)
C / E-G-C (1)

Version 1 explanation chord by chord:

E / G-C-E (3) = C major chord, 3rd scale degree and 3rd of the chord in the bass

F / A-D-F (4) *D minor chord, 4th scale degree and 3rd of the chord in the bass

G / G-C-E (5) *C major chord, 5th scaled degree and 5th of the chord G in the bass

A / F#-C-D# (6) *A diminished 7th/fully diminished chord, 6th scale degree and root of the chord in the bass

B / F-B-D (7) *B diminished chord, 7th scale degree and root of the chord in the bass

C / E-G-C (1) *C major chord, 1st scale degree and root of the chord in the bass

Version 2:

E / G-C-E (3)
F / A-D-F (4)
G / G-C-E (5)
A / F#-C-D# (6)
B / F-A-D (7)
C / E-G-C (1)

Version 2 explanation chord by chord:

E / G-C-E (3) = C major chord, 3rd scale degree and 3rd of the chord in the bass

F / A-D-F (4) *D minor chord, 4th scale degree and 3rd of the chord in the bass

G / G-C-E (5) *C major chord, 5th scaled degree and 5th of the chord G in the bass

A / F#-C-D# (6) *A diminished 7th chord, 6th scale degree and root of the chord in the bass

B / F-A-D (7) *B half-diminished chord, 7th scale degree and root of the chord in the bass

C / E-G-C (1) *C major chord, 1st scale degree and root of the chord in the bass

This is an old school gospel Turnaround that you can find on songs like "Marvelous" by T.D. Jakes and "Jesus" by John P. Kee. There are some other song, but those the only 2 I can think of right now.

Remember, if anyone else has a Gospel Turnaround you would like to share, feel free to add it here!!! Please, if you don't mind, can yall post them all in the key of C, so it's easier for everyone. Thanks!!!

Hey T

While learning the first Turnaround you posted, I came up with a slight alteration. Tell me what you think.....

E / G-C-E
F / A-D-F
G / G-C-E
F# / F#-C-D#
F/ F-B-D
C-E-G/ E-G-C
Title: Re: Gospel Turnarounds
Post by: BELLMS540 on April 06, 2006, 05:04:47 PM: This is one of my favorite turnaround:

1-b7-6-b6-5-1

G(oct-)/B-D-G
G(oct+)
F/B-D-G
E/Bb-Db-G
Eb/A-C-G
D/G-B-D-G
G/F-A-B-D
G/F-A-B-D
Title: Re: Gospel Turnarounds
Post by: BELLMS540 on May 08, 2006, 10:36:31 AM: Quote from: rjthakid on April 05, 2006, 02:40:09 PM

Thanks man!

It's beginning to look alot like Christmas. :D :D :D

I like that!!!
Title: Re: Gospel Turnarounds
Post by: Val215 on May 08, 2006, 10:18:46 PM: Quote from: DaNatiMaestro on April 05, 2006, 02:06:23 PM
Here is some REAL OLD SCHOOL for you... this run is as old batist church as it gets... It's in the MIDI format

Here is another run that you can add to your toolbox.
Church Blues Run in C - CLICK HERE! ([url]http://homepages.uc.edu/~strayhjr/music/3625RunC.mid[/url])

Here are the details behind it.. basically you're doing this run over a 3-6-2-5-1 progression..

So in C (which is the key of the MIDI file), the basic chords would be..
Em -> A7 -> Dm -> G7 -> Cmaj7

This is exactly what I'm doing on the MIDI... it would be hard to write out this run as it is really all about the timing and rhythm of it.

The MIDI is broken up into 4 tracks
1 - Piano RH Run
2 - Piano LH Chords (Rootless voicings)
3 - Bass
4 - Woodblock (acting as a metronome so that you can feel the timing)

With VanBasco MIDI player you can change tempo, keys and turn off any of these tracks.

I like that :D
Title: Re: Gospel Turnarounds
Post by: elaine1012 on May 12, 2006, 08:57:20 AM: Quote from: DaNatiMaestro on April 05, 2006, 02:06:23 PM
Here is some REAL OLD SCHOOL for you... this run is as old batist church as it gets... It's in the MIDI format

Here is another run that you can add to your toolbox.

I like thaTT .... DaNat ....

Nice ... Nice ... Nice ............

Thanks for Sharing!
~elaine
Title: Re: Gospel Turnarounds
Post by: bonejazz on May 15, 2006, 10:18:57 PM: Hello,

For an in depth discussion of gospel turnarounds, I would like to suggest a wonderful gospel piano

course by Jermaine Griggs. He covers topics ranging from basic chord progressions used in traditional

worship songs, to more comtemporary harmonic progressions utilized in the present gospel style today.

This video course will address any prblem you may have with your piano playing.

Good luck.

http://gospelpianotutor.com (http://products.learngospelmusic.com)
Title: Re: Gospel Turnarounds
Post by: rjthakid on May 17, 2006, 03:53:03 PM: Here's one:

in Db:

A/F-A-C
Bb/F-Bb-Db
G/Eb-G-Bb
Ab/Eb-Ab-C
F/Db-F-Ab
Gb/Db-Gb-Bb
Title: Re: Gospel Turnarounds
Post by: smalls85 on May 17, 2006, 09:54:42 PM: John P. Kee uses this one a lot:

A / G C E
Ab / F# B Eb
G / F G Bb D F
C / F G C D E
F / C E G A C E
Title: Re: Gospel Turnarounds
Post by: Fantom on May 18, 2006, 01:21:42 PM: HOPEFULLY NOT A DUMB QUESTION, BUT I'M STILL LEARNING, ESPECIALLY ABOUT PROGRESSIONS. WHAT IS THE DEFINITION OF A "TURNAROUND"?

AND I DID PURCHASE THE JERMAINE GRIGGS HOW TO PLAY BOOK. AND IT TOUCHES ON PROGRESSIONS (NOT AT THAT PORTION OF THE BOOK YET THOUGH).

B BLESSED, AND I'M GOING TO TRY THESE OUT!!!
Title: Re: Gospel Turnarounds
Post by: smalls85 on May 21, 2006, 09:07:18 PM: A Turnaround is simply the term for a pattern of chords used to get from one main line chord to the next.

For example: if a song's main chord pattern is a I IV V, you would use a turnaround to get from the I to the IV or from the V back to the I. All they are is filler chords to make a song sound better, but they aren't neccesarily a main part of the song.

The most basic turnaround is a ii V I used at the end of a verse before the start of the next verse or chorus. If you try some of the examples that were given, and insert them into songs you already know how to play, you'll immediately see an improvement in your playing and so will others.
Title: Re: Gospel Turnarounds
Post by: T-Block on May 21, 2006, 10:07:46 PM: A turnaround gets you back to the beginning of a particular part of a song or progression. Sometimes, at the end of a phrase of a song, there is some space before starting again. You could just sit there and play nothing, or play something to fill the space. Thus, we have turnaround chords to fill in the music gap.