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Guys. Please you're killing me. Don't mix sharps with flats in chord reference. If you prefer Sharps, the above notation is F# A# C# F. On the other hand, flats would be Gb Bb Db F.
-Al
rjthakid, that's because using 2-5-1's to switch keys is a *concept*. It doesn't matter which inversion you do it in. Matter of fact you shouldn't use the same inversion every time anyway. If you learn how to think of things in terms of harmony instead of specific notes, then you can choose inversions by the melody you're hearing on the top and your playing will sound a lot more full and colorful (think David Jackson and Butch).
So don't worry so much about having someone tell you which inversion to use. Just listen and use your ear.
Yea, I hate that too. lol.
A problem with only listing chord names is that it doesn't tell you which inversion to use unless you specify. I've always found it helpful when someone lists the notes, AND the chord name next to it.
Now, if you said Ab13#5b9, I'd know what you're talking about (Notes: Ab-C-E-G/Db-F-A), but not everyone does.
You see, in that chord I listed, I put the b9 on top. With just Ab13#5b9, you don't know WHAT inversion to use.
Are you saying that because the flat 9 is denoted last in the chord symbol that it means it is voiced on top? That's not right. Not that it couldn't be on top,
This chord would be kind of a mess. I think a better way to notate it would be Ab7 (b9 b13). The way you have it written it contains both the flat 6th and the natural 6th (the #5 and the 13) which is very dissonant. Also there is no 11th in a 13th chord. The notation of "13th" does not mean that the chord contains the 7th, 9th, 11th and 13th scale degrees. It only means there is a 7th and a 6th in the same chord. I would play this chord: Ab in the pedal, Gb/C in the LH, and E/A in the RH. It naturally resolves to Dbmaj13 voiced: Db in the pedal, F/Bb in the LH and Eb/Ab in the RH.
Why does there have to be a "correct" way to post. Let people post however they want, and if you can't understand the theory just check out a book or ask somebody. It's a really useful way of describing chordswell if you do some reseach on some of my past post you will see that i say post like FP/LH/RH
whoaaaaaaaaa when did you guys ever read that i dont know what this symobals mean, Just for the record i do know how to read alot not all but alot of this symobals that are posted. But i guess God has not bless certain people the gift of comprehending what people are saying sooo i 'll try and explain it once more for those people who really cant read and tend to skip over words when they read. IF THIS IS A SITE FOR ALL MUSICAN, BEGNNINGS, INTERMEDATE. AND ADVANCE THEN IT IS BEST TO POST WHERE EVERYBODY CAN BENIFIT. AND SINCE THIS IS THE ORGAN ROOM THEN IT IS BETTER TO POST ORGAN CHORDS LIKE HOW PEOPLE PLAY THE ORGAN WITH BASS NOTES LEFT HAND NOTES AND RIGHT HAND NOTES (FP/LH/RH) NOW IF I WAS AND ORGANIST WHICH I AM AND I WANT SOME ORGAN CHORDS TO A SONG OR A CERTAIN CHANGE THAT YOU DO ON THE ORGAN THAN I WOULD COME ON THIS SITE AND COME TO THE SO CALL ORGAN ROOM AND DO YOU KNOW WHAT I WOULD PROBABLY FIND CHORD POSTED LIKE I WAS PLAYING THE PIANO OR KEYBOARD WHICH IF YOU ARE A REAL MUSICAN WOULD KNOW THAT ITS A BIG DIFFENCE IN THE THREE. WHO POSTED THE SICKEST CHORDS ON LGM? THE ANSWER WOULD BE KEY-WIZ IF YOU NOTICE WHEN HE POST EVERYBODY EVEN THE SUPER BEGNNERS WHO HAVE NOT LEARN HOW TO READ CHORD LIKE A9(C-G-F)BbAUG7 CAN PLAY IT.KEY-WIZ ALWAYS POST HIS ORGAN CHORDS FP/LH/RH THIS WHY I SURE EVERY DOES SOME THING THAT KEY-WIZ DOES BECASUE BROTHER NOWS HOW TO POST SO SICK CHORDS FOR EVERYBODY NOT JUST THOSE WHO JUST READ NOTATION.But Jomo7, you have to understand why he used chord names in THIS post. Because this is mainly theory. So voicings are irrelevant in this case. Now if it was a song, then you could say: "he should've typed it out so we can see the voicings he used", but this is different. It's not about sick chords and stuff. Even if he typed it out for the beginners, it wouldn't help them unless they understood what they were doing anyway.HE POST FOR EVERYONE THAT CAN UNDERSTAND THE ALPHBET[/move SO
OK GUYS, HERE WE GO.I agree with you brother. i guess use real organist can only understand what we are trying to tell this wanna be
THERE IS NO RIGHT OR WRONG WAY TO POST CHORDS.
BUT, THERE IS A RIGHT OR WRONG WAY TO POST CHORDS DEPENDING ON WHO YOUR EXPLAINING THEM TO. IF YOUR TALKING TO A PIANIST, IT WOULD BE BEST TO POST CHORDS IN THE SYMBOL FORMAT. (ex: F#M7) WHY, BECAUSE PIANIST ONLY HAVE TO DEAL WITH THEIR RIGHT AND LEFT HAND. SO A F#M7 WOULD MEAN THAT, THE LEFT HAND WOULD PLAY A F# BASS AND THE RIGHT HAND WOULD PLAY F#-A#-C#-F. (F#/F#-A#-C#-F)
BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, SINCE ORGANIST HAVE PEDALS TO PLAY ALSO, THEIR CHORDS WOULD HAVE TO BE POSTED IN THE SPELL-OUT FORM. (in notes that are spelled out)
SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF SOMEONE TOLD ME TO PLAY A F#M7 ON THE ORGAN, MY BASS PEDALS WOULD PLAY A F#, MY LEFT HAND WOULD PLAY NOTHING, AND MY RIGHT HAND WOULD PLAY F#-A#-C#-F.
WELL IF I TOLD AN ORGANIST TO PLAY F#/F-F#-C#/F#-A#-C#-F. THE ORGANIST WOULD STILL BE PLAYING A F#M7 CHORD BUT HE'S LEFT HAND WOULD BE ACTIVE OPPOSED TO PLAYING A REGULAR F#M7 CHORD WITH THE RIGHT HAND AND NOTHING ON THE LEFT.
I HOPE I DIDN'T CONFUSE ANYONE HERE. IF I DID JUST WRITE BACK AND I'LL TRY TO HELP.
TheReturn
I agree with you brother. i guess use real organist can only understand what we are trying to tell this wanna be
"real organists" understand how to use their left hand when they chord. If a singer says "Eb major" and starts singing, are you gonna stop her and ask her what notes to put in the left hand? :Ddude what the heck are you talking about? what is being said is THAT THIS IS A ORGAN ROOM THEREFORE ORGAN CHORDS AND ORGAN CHORDS ONLY SHOULD BE POSTED AND IF THERE ARE CHORDS THE DONT CONTAIN FP/LH/RH
Also, who are you to say who is a "wannabe". Are you just concerned about organ skills, to the point that you would rather insult people instead of trying to deal with them as a brother or sister in christ would?
Don't forget, being in God's family is about way more than just music. It's a lifestyle...
Furthermore, I'm a beginner.this was posted by a guy in the organ room in respones to one of my post entilted Yo ALL MY GODLY ORGANIST and he is a beginner so lets see how he feels about chords post like this Abm7-lejejioj +BCGE
NO beginner should be on here trying to find chords if they don't first know what an AbM7 is.
i have heard you talk about how nice you are then i see you saying you are new to playing organ
i can tolerate a big head and mouth and ego from a beast but if you are up and coming you should talk less listen and learn more
FOR REAL YO ? when have i said that im new to my insturment yo? unless you plan coming up here to hear me play and probably have a little jam session with me and my cat and eat you alive with your theory and all then i suggest you watch what you typing about people skill especially STL CATS.
ps: and if your are trying to make that trip then pm me and we can get up and running. MAke sure you bring your best doc