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Title: Progressions?
Post by: energy73 on July 12, 2006, 04:31:43 PM
Would someone please explain progressions to me?  What exactly do you mean when you say 4-5-1 progression?  Are they the notes played one at a time or they played as a chord?  What are we doing when we play a progression?

Thank you in advance,
Energy73
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Post by: malthumb on July 12, 2006, 05:09:14 PM
Would someone please explain progressions to me?  What exactly do you mean when you say 4-5-1 progression?  Are they the notes played one at a time or they played as a chord?  What are we doing when we play a progression?

Thank you in advance,
Energy73

Suppose you are playing in the key of C.  That means that the "1" position is C, 2 is D, 3 is E, 4 is F, 5 is G, 6 is A, 7 is B, and 8 (octave) is C

A 4-5-1 progression in C would be the notes F-G-C played in sequence.  4-5-1 and 2-5-1 progressions are very common in gospel music.

Peace,

James
Title: Re: Progressions?
Post by: energy73 on July 12, 2006, 05:52:27 PM
Are the notes played one at a time?
Title: Re: Progressions?
Post by: jeremyr on July 12, 2006, 05:56:39 PM
Are the notes played one at a time?


yes and no.  You can play the 4 note or you can play a cord based on the 4.
Title: Re: Progressions?
Post by: Da Man on July 13, 2006, 07:07:38 AM
What music are you listening to, or, that you want to play?

Da Man
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Post by: Andrzej on July 13, 2006, 10:59:47 AM
Gospel music was created from Jazz, as did a lot of other genres and styles.  Getting hold of some basic Jazz theory instructional materials is a good starting place to understand progressions and how to use them in different minor and major scales and modes.  Good tip for any beginner/intermediate players out there!
Title: Re: Progressions?
Post by: Torch7 on July 14, 2006, 10:12:38 AM
Gospel music was created from Jazz, as did a lot of other genres and styles.  Getting hold of some basic Jazz theory instructional materials is a good starting place to understand progressions and how to use them in different minor and major scales and modes.  Good tip for any beginner/intermediate players out there!

Do you recommend any Jazz Theory Material?  A jazz bassist told me to look into jazz harmony.
Title: Re: Progressions?
Post by: Cherri on July 14, 2006, 12:36:18 PM
I have this a couple of times myself. If my memory serves me correct someone suggested a Jazz Bass book. I need to check this out.
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Post by: djgroovin on July 14, 2006, 03:40:34 PM
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Gospel music was created from Jazz, as did a lot of other genres and styles.  Getting hold of some basic Jazz theory instructional materials is a good starting place to understand progressions and how to use them in different minor and major scales and modes.  Good tip for any beginner/intermediate players out there!


Traditional gospel was actually derived from the Blues (some people label Blues as Jazz).  Contemporay gospel today is closer to the Jazz idiom in it's modern form.  I definately agree to study jazz.  The complexity of Jazz is mainly because of 2 things...improvisation and re-harmonizing which gospel is doing a lot of now.

If you want to get started in Jazz check out www.jazzbooks.com (http://www.jazzbooks.com)
Title: Re: Progressions?
Post by: uprising_bassist7 on July 14, 2006, 04:05:20 PM
me 2 , im workin on it and i love it just the sound and diffent feel it gives its  beautiful style
 ;D
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Post by: carlmack7183 on July 15, 2006, 09:58:48 PM
yeah jazzing it up is fun because it adds a different element to your lines. Like CJ Alexander said you use the 7th alot to give your riffs and chords that jazzy feel and everyone thinks you are doing something extraordinary b/c they aren't used of hearing that in a gospel song. One thing that I started doing is practicng with Jazz sax player Kirk Whalum's CDs and he does a few things as far as progrssions that can really get you going.
Title: Re: Progressions?
Post by: energy73 on July 16, 2006, 02:06:09 AM
What music are you listening to, or, that you want to play?

Da Man

I have been listening to tday's gospel.  At this point i just want to be able to play something.  I can hear the bass line but I am ot hearing notes just bass lines.

Energy73
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Post by: ddwilkins on July 16, 2006, 03:35:55 AM
Like James said, 4-5-1 are just the different scale degrees.  I would recommend getting a jazz theory book after you have the basic theory down.  I bolded "after" because you need the basics before you go to some jazz theory.  Learning your scales degrees is very helpful though.  Once you understand 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-1, you'll definately understand the different progressions.

Here's one for everyone:
1-7-3-6-2-5-1

If you don't understand it, and you know how to play keys a little, here's the chords in Db:

LH/RH

Db/DbEbFAb
C/BbDbEbGb
F/ADbEbFAb
Bb/AbCDbF
Eb/EbGbBb
Ab/AbCEb
Db/DbEbFAb

Hope this helps ;D ;D
Title: Re: Progressions?
Post by: Cherri on July 16, 2006, 06:44:05 PM
yeah jazzing it up is fun because it adds a different element to your lines. Like CJ Alexander said you use the 7th alot to give your riffs and chords that jazzy feel and everyone thinks you are doing something extraordinary b/c they aren't used of hearing that in a gospel song. One thing that I started doing is practicng with Jazz sax player Kirk Whalum's CDs and he does a few things as far as progrssions that can really get you going.

This is making more and more sense to me know. Thanks.