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Title: Most Popular Keys
Post by: Loopy on August 15, 2006, 12:13:18 PM
I have 500+ gospel CD's and about 6600 MP3's on my computer, and a few years back I did a survey of hundreds and hundreds of gospel songs to see what key they were in. This is what I found (I thought it was interesting). The keys are list in order from most popular to least popular.

1. Ab
2. C#
3. Eb
4. F#
5. Bb
6. F
7. C
8. G
9. D
10. B
11. E
12. A


Notice that the BLACK keys are the top five, and the keys of D, B, E, and A are the bottom four. Also, F is the most popular WHITE key, and what was interesting to me is the the key of C is not nearly as popular in black gospel recordings as one might think.
Title: Re: Most Popular Keys
Post by: 4hisglory on August 15, 2006, 12:18:08 PM
If you did the same survey on Chrristian music, it would probably be reversed. :)
Title: Re: Most Popular Keys
Post by: T-Block on August 15, 2006, 12:31:52 PM
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Notice that the BLACK keys are the top five, and the keys of D, B, E, and A are the bottom four. Also, F is the most popular WHITE key, and what was interesting to me is the the key of C is not nearly as popular in black gospel recordings as one might think.

I agree with this right here.  I really don't like playing in C myself.  But, C is the best key to learn music theory in.
Title: Re: Most Popular Keys
Post by: sjonathan02 on August 15, 2006, 12:34:30 PM
If you did the same survey on Chrristian music, it would probably be reversed. :)


It is reversed, I'm sure. It has to do with instrumentation. Christian music is more guitar driven, as a result the 'better' or 'easier' keys are B, E, A and D.


Title: Re: Most Popular Keys
Post by: Loopy on August 15, 2006, 12:34:52 PM
If you did the same survey on Chrristian music, it would probably be reversed. :)

Oh I totally agree, as black gospel music is keyboard based, and CCM is more guitar driven.
Title: Re: Most Popular Keys
Post by: ferrente on August 15, 2006, 12:58:03 PM
The only one that shocked me is C# before Eb.
Title: Re: Most Popular Keys
Post by: Loopy on August 15, 2006, 01:02:01 PM
I the only one that shocked me is C# before Eb.

Believe it or not, C# was running neck and neck with Ab!! At one point during my surveying, C# was actually in the LEAD!
Title: Re: Most Popular Keys
Post by: ferrente on August 15, 2006, 01:02:05 PM
I agree, T-Block made a great point. ( About Music theory) and the Key of C
Title: Re: Most Popular Keys
Post by: berbie on August 15, 2006, 01:44:03 PM
Hello.

I wonder why the black keys are more popular with gospel music.  Is there a reason in theory?
Are the voice ranges of Black gospel singers more often in those keys?  They are certainly not easier to play. (as opposed to g,f, c, and prehaps d.  I wonder why.

Berbie
Title: Re: Most Popular Keys
Post by: PianoWizard on August 15, 2006, 08:02:09 PM
I the only one that shocked me is C# before Eb.

If it was up to me C# would be on top..... :D   ;D   :D

PianoWiz...
Title: Re: Most Popular Keys
Post by: B3Wannabe on August 15, 2006, 08:42:31 PM
I was talking to my Korean friends on Saturday and they said to them the black keys were the hardest, and they wondered why most Gospel music was in the black keys. It was an interesting discussion. I told them that I think it also has to do with harmony. The black keys form a natural pentatonic major, so it MIGHT be easier for us to learn those keys and transpose what we know across them because of the relating tones. Like 4 stated though, they saw the white keys as the easiest.
Title: Re: Most Popular Keys
Post by: Loopy on August 15, 2006, 08:55:45 PM
It IS a very interesting discussion. I know to me, when I was learning to play, the black keys just came easier! I had taken lessons before as a child, so of course I started in C, but the very next key I started playin in was F#, the C# then Eb, then Ab. The black keys just came easier for me! MOST black gospel keyboardists that I know favor the black keys!

I'll actually take ANY black key over even the key of C, and that was the first key I learned!! It's weird like that I guess! An even more interesting discussion would be do black gospel musicians favor the black keys for racial reasons. LOL! ;) :D ;D
Title: Re: Most Popular Keys
Post by: Loopy on August 15, 2006, 08:57:51 PM
I was talking to my Korean friends on Saturday and they said to them the black keys were the hardest, and they wondered why most Gospel music was in the black keys. It was an interesting discussion. I told them that I think it also has to do with harmony. The black keys form a natural pentatonic major, so it MIGHT be easier for us to learn those keys and transpose what we know across them because of the relating tones. Like 4 stated though, they saw the white keys as the easiest.

Interesting theory, cricket! ;) :)
Title: Re: Most Popular Keys
Post by: dyronjackson on August 15, 2006, 09:08:31 PM
Believe it or not, I starting playing in the key of Bb the very first song I learned "Yes God Is Real". I to find the black keys much easier to play. It's a comfort zone for me.
Title: Re: Most Popular Keys
Post by: Loopy on August 15, 2006, 09:19:37 PM
Another interesting tidbit: When I was conducting this survey, I think I started with Hezekiah Walker CD's, so early on, F# was in the lead!!
Title: Re: Most Popular Keys
Post by: PianoWizard on August 15, 2006, 09:22:55 PM
I'll actually take ANY black key over even the key of C, and that was the first key I learned!! It's weird like that I guess! An even more interesting discussion would be do black gospel musicians favor the black keys for racial reasons. LOL! ;) :D ;D

I never thought of that...... :)......showing a study on this could be really intresting.... :D   ;D   :D

PianoWiz...
Title: Re: Most Popular Keys
Post by: KurzLand on August 16, 2006, 12:44:09 AM
If you did the same survey on Chrristian music, it would probably be reversed. :)

Latin Chrstian or hispanic music is also reversed. More white keys than black keys.
Title: Re: Most Popular Keys
Post by: T-Block on August 16, 2006, 12:20:51 PM
I really don't like playing in the white keys.  I like the black keys better cuz no matter which black key you in, they all feel pretty much the same as far as fingerings.  Some of them have little differences, but it seems like I caught on to the black keys faster than the white keys.

If it was up to me C# would be on top..... :D   ;D   :D

PianoWiz...

I put Eb on top of all the keys!!! ;D
Title: Re: Most Popular Keys
Post by: ddw4e on August 16, 2006, 12:29:23 PM
I definitely agree with the list Loopy did cause I have about that many mp3s and majority of the songs are in Ab. But I say Eb would probably be #2 because a lot of songs that are played in minor keys is played in Ebm.
Title: Re: Most Popular Keys
Post by: gospelkeys85 on August 16, 2006, 06:47:54 PM
Interesting, interesting.  I love the black keys.  I personally think songs sound better in those keys.  But that's probably because, as Loopy's research proves, so many songs are in those keys.  Man, Loopy, you have a lot of time on your hands!
Title: Re: Most Popular Keys
Post by: skymegatoronto on August 16, 2006, 07:16:12 PM
I have 500+ gospel CD's and about 6600 MP3's on my computer, and a few years back I did a survey of hundreds and hundreds of gospel songs to see what key they were in. This is what I found (I thought it was interesting). The keys are list in order from most popular to least popular.

1. Ab
2. C#
3. Eb
4. F#
5. Bb
6. F
7. C
8. G
9. D
10. B
11. E
12. A


Notice that the BLACK keys are the top five, and the keys of D, B, E, and A are the bottom four. Also, F is the most popular WHITE key, and what was interesting to me is the the key of C is not nearly as popular in black gospel recordings as one might think.


I'm Surprised that you were able to find any gospel song in the Key of A,B or E
Title: Re: Most Popular Keys
Post by: Benjamin1011 on August 16, 2006, 07:58:07 PM
I'm Surprised that you were able to find any gospel song in the Key of A,B or E

I agree that is surprising.

Title: Re: Most Popular Keys
Post by: Benjamin1011 on August 16, 2006, 08:01:18 PM
If it was up to me C# would be on top..... :D   ;D   :D

PianoWiz...

I'm with you PianoWiz ;)
Title: Re: Most Popular Keys
Post by: sjonathan02 on August 16, 2006, 09:57:13 PM
I'm torn between Eb and Db as keys that I prefer.


And, actually, I like F and Ab, too!
Title: Re: Most Popular Keys
Post by: Loopy on August 16, 2006, 10:46:03 PM
Interesting, interesting.  I love the black keys.  I personally think songs sound better in those keys.  But that's probably because, as Loopy's research proves, so many songs are in those keys.  Man, Loopy, you have a lot of time on your hands!

LOL!! Nah I actually did this over a period of a few days, and I just scanned the songs to see what the MAIN was that they were in. It didn't take me too long. ;D
Title: Re: Most Popular Keys
Post by: Loopy on August 16, 2006, 10:49:30 PM
I'm Surprised that you were able to find any gospel song in the Key of A,B or E

Believe it or not there are a few!

For example, James Hall has several songs in the key of B ("Blessed Be the Name", and "When He Comes Back in the Clouds")
and he also has songs in the key of E. Isreal and New Breed does the majority of his songs in E, and one very popular song, Vickie Winans' "Long As I Got king Jesus, is in the key of E. I can't remember which songs were in A but I know there were a few. As you can see, A was the least popular key.
Title: Re: Most Popular Keys
Post by: Loopy on August 16, 2006, 11:14:25 PM
I'm torn between Eb and Db as keys that I prefer.


And, actually, I like F and Ab, too!

I can DITTO this statement, SJON! I also love Bb though.
Title: Re: Most Popular Keys
Post by: T-Block on August 17, 2006, 10:43:59 AM
Here are a few gospel songs in the key of A:

Kurt Carr - "Oh My Soul Loves Jesus" (Awesome Wonder CD)
Kurt Carr - "Jesus Can Work It Out" modulates to the key of A (Awesome Wonder CD)
William Murphy - "Pure And Holy Passion" (All Day CD)
The Winans - "The Question Is"

Here are some songs in the key of B:

Bishop Paul S. Morton - "I Need Thee" (Let It Rain CD)
Bishop Paul S. Moron - "Bow Down" (Bow Down and Worship Him CD)  *it's really in the key of G# minor, but uses the key of B notes/chords
Byron Cage - "Lift Him Up" (Invitation CD)
Hezekiah Walker - "What A Mighty God We Serve" (Family Affair II CD)  *most of it is Bm, but it switches to B major in the song, and back to Bm
Title: Re: Most Popular Keys
Post by: bishopcole on August 17, 2006, 11:26:15 AM
I definitely agree with the list Loopy did cause I have about that many mp3s and majority of the songs are in Ab. But I say Eb would probably be #2 because a lot of songs that are played in minor keys is played in Ebm.


The reason why so many songs are in these keys because they are what we call natural talktone keys.  Bishop Cole
Title: Re: Most Popular Keys
Post by: berbie on August 18, 2006, 05:00:04 PM
Hey, Loopy

You know, it is not really a racist question, as I am black, and percieve the white keys to be easier to play, and if asked to play a song, would automatically start to play in "g".  If Black voices tend to range in the area of the black keys when singing gospel, so what?  I am just curious.  Since I read this thread, I started paying more attention to the flat keys, and discovered that the more I played them, the easier they got. (surprise)   In my mind, though, they will never be as easy as c, f, g, d, aw, ok, bflat. As far as reading music is concerned, though, I will not attempt to read any music that has more that two sharps in the key signature.  The number of flats don't matter. It  is easy to remember beadgc, and that I am always going to be flatting.  Hey, maybe I answered my own question.

Berbie
Title: Re: Most Popular Keys
Post by: under13 on November 23, 2009, 03:07:23 PM
Bump. I thought this thread was very interesting....
Title: Re: Most Popular Keys
Post by: jude63 on November 23, 2009, 07:38:44 PM
Eb is the king, the hands just fit nicely there
Title: Re: Most Popular Keys
Post by: under13 on November 23, 2009, 07:52:15 PM
Eb is the king, the hands just fit nicely there

thats exactly why I like the Black keys
Title: Re: Most Popular Keys
Post by: musallio on November 24, 2009, 08:43:51 AM

The reason why so many songs are in these keys because they are what we call natural talktone keys.  Bishop Cole

I think this best explains it!
You will find that most songs in these keys are by people who like to talk in the songs (plz correct me if I'm wrong).

I learn' my first song in F# without even knowing it, so for a long time it was my default key (even now).

But A & D have a nice feel & I plays some nice stuff that doesn't come so easy in other keys.

I think C is my least preferred key to play any song in, unless if it's in Am,
Title: Re: Most Popular Keys
Post by: kmccray on November 24, 2009, 10:02:30 AM
C# and Eb are the preferred keys by me.  I use to shy away from the black keys but they are easier for me to play than the white keys now. :)
Title: Re: Most Popular Keys
Post by: musallio on November 24, 2009, 10:29:57 AM
I don't really have any best preference now in terms of the key. My only preference is that the song is simple enough to play ;D
I found that most of the black keys have a natural feel about them. Db is my 2nd favorite black key when practicing but my least preferred black key when playing songs in a church setting (I don't know why).

Eb is the best for runs!
F# is the best for song's I've never heard before/ I don't know and everything else.
A,D,E,B  have a nice feel in slow worship songs.
F, Bb, Db, G, Ab are nice to play fast groovy songs in.

That's just me.
Title: Re: Most Popular Keys
Post by: ferrente on November 26, 2009, 01:17:59 AM
Good Post!
Title: Re: Most Popular Keys
Post by: Mrandrew on November 26, 2009, 08:57:53 AM
This sheds some light on why we like to play in the black keys. This may have been posted before, but is significant.

Amazing Grace History/"Amazing Grace" By Wintley Phipps (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMF_24cQqT0#)