I personally believe that gospel rap is wrong, due to the fact that the bible plainly tells us to sing with an understanding. BUT I would like know what ya'll think about it.
ManofPraise
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Ya'll my daughter wrote an incomplete sentence in her homework. When I told her to do the work over, she RAISED HER VOICE at me. She was upset that I was making her do a better job and she had the nerve to THINK her work was sufficient.
So what do ya'll think I did
a) reached in the bag of belts and gave her a good old fashioned butt whoppin'
b) Took off my shoe and gave her a syllable beat down, using 4-5 syllables words which I encouraged her not to use on the paper
c) Calmly pleaded with her not to yell at me again.
d) a & b
Maybe you should have had a Grammar League tele-conference to Baltimore and sprinkled your fairy dust on her. I mean it would've been worth a try, before you went ALL corporal on the child. ;D
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Ya'll my daughter wrote an incomplete sentence in her homework. When I told her to do the work over, she RAISED HER VOICE at me. She was upset that I was making her do a better job and she had the nerve to THINK her work was sufficient.
So what do ya'll think I did
a) reached in the bag of belts and gave her a good old fashioned butt whoppin'
b) Took off my shoe and gave her a syllable beat down, using 4-5 syllables words which I encouraged her not to use on the paper
c) Calmly pleaded with her not to yell at me again.
d) a & b
I personally believe that gospel rap is wrong, due to the fact that the bible plainly tells us to sing with an understanding. BUT I would like know what ya'll think about it.
ManofPraise
:) ;D :)
Another Officially Hi-jacked Thread
Ya'll my daughter wrote an incomplete sentence in her homework. When I told her to do the work over, she RAISED HER VOICE at me. She was upset that I was making her do a better job and she had the nerve to THINK her work was sufficient.
So what do ya'll think I did
a) reached in the bag of belts and gave her a good old fashioned butt whoppin'
b) Took off my shoe and gave her a syllable beat down, using 4-5 syllables words which I encouraged her not to use on the paper
c) Calmly pleaded with her not to yell at me again.
d) a & b
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Ya'll my daughter wrote an incomplete sentence in her homework. When I told her to do the work over, she RAISED HER VOICE at me. She was upset that I was making her do a better job and she had the nerve to THINK her work was sufficient.
So what do ya'll think I did
a) reached in the bag of belts and gave her a good old fashioned butt whoppin'
b) Took off my shoe and gave her a syllable beat down, using 4-5 syllables words which I encouraged her not to use on the paper
c) Calmly pleaded with her not to yell at me again.
d) a & b
If MadeaT showed up......I have to say my choice is D.lol
And for the correct answer you recieve what's behind door number 2...........VT open the door!! ;D ;D ;D
MadeaT was still on it this morning. I merely reminded her never to go there again! ;D :D ;D
Nessa, get your crew....we need your help
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And that is a watergun :D
Behind door number 2:
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IT'S BLUE STARS!!! However, these blue stars don't do anything....they just look nice :D :D :D
Another thing I think where many of our opinions on topics such as these come from what donomination we are in.
God created music. That is all that is need to be said.
You should have called the "grammer wizard" to give her a 1 hour class. :D
*poof, The GW enters*
The class IS still possible. But, the beat-down was well deserved. Train up a child, folks; train up a child. ;)
*poof, The GW exits*
Nessa, sorry about your money issues.
O.K., that's you opinion and you are entitled to it. I'm sure there are people who agree and disagree with you. But, like it was said, this topic has been discussed already, so u can do a search for it and get all the opinions you need.
By the way, I disargree with you 100%, one because not everyone can sing (or sing good), and two not everyone express themselves in the same way. As long as they giving glory, honor, and praise to God, who are we to tell them or judge them on how to do it. But, that's just me!!!
T-Block not trying to be mean, but the Bible tells us that he who worships the Lord must worship him in Spirit and in Truth, and I haven't never seen any gospel rapper in my whole life ever get in the Spirit by rapping. About the singing part, you don't have to sound good to sing unto the Lord. All you have to do is MAKE A JOYFULL NOISE UNTO THE LORD. But you are right everybody is indeed entitled to their own opinions.
ManofPraise
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T-Block not trying to be mean, but the Bible tells us that he who worships the Lord must worship him in Spirit and in Truth, and I haven't never seen any gospel rapper in my whole life ever get in the Spirit by rapping. About the singing part, you don't have to sound good to sing unto the Lord. All you have to do is MAKE A JOYFULL NOISE UNTO THE LORD. But you are right everybody is indeed entitled to their own opinions.
ManofPraise
:) ;D :) :)
...I think Rap is a joke!.....a joke primarily played on Black people by black people!.....I know I am not alone on this......I saw a documentary last night on AIDs in the Black community and one person approached rap and hip hops roll in degrading the lifestyles of young black people.
I think it is like coming to church naked and asking ..."what is wrong with the human body?"
For the most part we follow what we see and let people into our lives that dont belong there....just to find out later that they have become part of our lives!
...We think we are making choices!....But we are not.....We are being offered....pg ....r....and ...x....as ratings and figure ...well pg is better than x rated so I'll get that!....at least it is not X!!!
....thats exactly what THEY...want you to think!......
....So as the next generation comes....the young musicians bring this nonsense into the church....and pastors and ministers in an effort to appease these young (already misguided) folks...says sure!...we will do it for the youngins!.....we have to keep them interested you know!
....MEMO TO THE CHIEF!.....THEY DONT NEED TO BE INTERESTED.....THEY NEED TO BE TAUGHT! HOW TO LIVE..TAUGHT THE WORD....AND FED THINGS THAT ARE THE OPPOSITE OF THE WORLDLY LIFE THEY ARE TRYING TO REMOVE THEMSELVES FROM!.....HELLOOOOOOOOO!....
I am exhausted.....Bobby Jones is the pope of Black Music...(joking)...did you see this guy?....think about it!...Why do we know his name?....Did you vote for him?.....
Rap in and out of the church is a joke!...and the joke is on us!....(and in this case ..unfortunately...by us!) ;D
whew....I feel better now!
...I think Rap is a joke!.....a joke primarily played on Black people by black people!.....I know I am not alone on this......I saw a documentary last night on AIDs in the Black community and one person approached rap and hip hops roll in degrading the lifestyles of young black people.
I think it is like coming to church naked and asking ..."what is wrong with the human body?"
For the most part we follow what we see and let people into our lives that dont belong there....just to find out later that they have become part of our lives!
[...We think we are making choices!....But we are not.....We are being offered....pg ....r....and ...x....as ratings and figure ...well pg is better than x rated so I'll get that!....at least it is not X!!!
....thats exactly what THEY...want you to think!....../size]
....So as the next generation comes....the young musicians bring this nonsense into the church....and pastors and ministers in an effort to appease these young (already misguided) folks...says sure!...we will do it for the youngins!.....we have to keep them interested you know!
....MEMO TO THE CHIEF!.....THEY DONT NEED TO BE INTERESTED.....THEY NEED TO BE TAUGHT! HOW TO LIVE..TAUGHT THE WORD....AND FED THINGS THAT ARE THE OPPOSITE OF THE WORLDLY LIFE THEY ARE TRYING TO REMOVE THEMSELVES FROM!.....HELLOOOOOOOOO!....
I am exhausted.....Bobby Jones is the pope of Black Music...(joking)...did you see this guy?....think about it!...Why do we know his name?....Did you vote for him?.....
Rap in and out of the church is a joke!...and the joke is on us!....(and in this case ..unfortunately...by us!) ;D
whew....I feel better now!
Question: Do yall think Gospel music was the first style of music?
If this ain't the silliest question, I've read on LGM in a long time, I don't know what is? Well, maybe the question about Kirk Franklin revitalizing Gospel music, but this question sure is close. And, I 'ain't' is NOW in the dictionary, so there.
T-Block not trying to be mean, but the Bible tells us that he who worships the Lord must worship him in Spirit and in Truth, and I haven't never seen any gospel rapper in my whole life ever get in the Spirit by rapping. About the singing part, you don't have to sound good to sing unto the Lord. All you have to do is MAKE A JOYFULL NOISE UNTO THE LORD. But you are right everybody is indeed entitled to their own opinions.
ManofPraise
:) ;D :) :)
Just cause you haven't seen it doesn't mean it has never happened. Just so you know I have seen it happen.
:D :D and this thread is ::) ::) ::)
If this ain't the silliest question, I've read on LGM in a long time, I don't know what is? Well, maybe the question about Kirk Franklin revitalizing Gospel music, but this question sure is close. And, I 'ain't' is NOW in the dictionary, so there.
Like I stated earlier I know alot of our opinions come from the denomination we were raised in.
Well, doesn't the Bible say that God inhabits the praises of His people? It didn't say that God inhabits only one type of praise, it says he inhabits the praises. So, since I strongly believe that gospel rappers are giving praise to God in their own way, I believe that it is acceptable unto God. Therefore, we shouldn't judge them just because we don't agree on their methods.
No disrepect ManofPraise, I'm just being real and giving my opinion based on what I been taught at my church and what I get from reading the Bible myself!!!
First, lets get the scripture right. It says,
Psalm 22:3
"But thou art holy, O thou that inhabitest the praises of Israel."
...so the BIBLE says that "thou art holy" and David makes it clearly known first. We then must understand that "holy" means to be sacred, consecrated (set apart). The only way that a "Holy" God will inhabit praise is if the praise is from a holy source.
Now Israel had a form of praise and worship that was so unique and holy (consecrated/set apart) from those heathen/pagan nations around them, that when they where taken into Babylon this what happened,
Psalm 137:3-5
"For there they that carried us away captive required of us a song; and they that wasted us required of us mirth, saying, Sing us one of the songs of Zion. How shall we sing the LORD's song in a strange land?"
The way they sung, danced and worshipped was so different, that those who knew NOT God, desired of them mirth (jubalant praise) and songs. God's people should have their OWN style of worship.
My question in this whole matter is, How is your praise and worship holy unto God (which he inhabits), if its done in a worldly format?? How is "hip hop" tactics a unique form of praise that could possibly draw unbelievers into true holiness if its an imitation of worldliness?? There is an assimulation going on by satan, permitting believers to use HIS tactics to try to wins souls... and the deception is, "WOW, look at the numbers of youth accepting this!" The bible again states,
Matthew 7:22-24
"Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."
...you can't win Nelly by imitating Nelly.... you can't win Lil Jon, if ya snapping yo fingaz like him!
Lord help...
SO BISHOP IS KIRK FRANKLIN HOLY? I AM NOT BEING SMART BUT ALOT OF THE GOSPEL ARTISTS TODAY THIER TRACK SOUND NO DIFFERENT THAN ALL OF THE OTHER MUSIC OUT THERE EXCEPT FOR THE LYRICS.
I HAD THIS DISSCUSION BEFORE AND I AM STILL IN AWE THAT SO MANY HAVE THIS VEIW.
TAKE AWAY ALL OF THE WORDS/LYRICS FROM SAY A KIRK FRANKLIN CD AND A DESTINYS CHILD CD
WITHOUT KNOWING WHICH SONGS BELONG TO WHOM
WHICH MUSIC IS NOT HOLY ?/? ?/? ?/? ?/?
NOW GIVE FIRK,FRED,ISREAL THE NEW TRACK FOM (B FROM DESTINYS CHILD DE JA SOMETHING ) IS IT UNHOLY
I AM JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND ?/? ?/? ?/?
SO MANY DO NOT EVEN UNDERSTAND THE MUSIC BUSINESS (BEFORE THEY QUOTE THE BIBLE)
KIRK FRANKLIN HAS A RECORD CONTRACT PUBLISHING DEAL AND A HE IS A MEMBER OF ASCAP.
NOW HE OR HIS RECORD COMPANY FIND HIM TRACKS PURCHASE THE RIGHTS AND HE RECORDS IT GIVES PPOINTS BACK TO THE WRITER
EVERYONE DOES THIS. SO A WORLDLY MUSICIAN THAT IS SELLING GOSPEL TRACKS TO GOSPEL ARTISTS
AND THEN WE DO NOT THINK TWICE ABOUT PLAYING THEM IN CHURCH BUT WHERE DID THE MUSIC COME FROM IN THE FIRST PLACE
I AM SORRY I AM A REAL MUSICIAN, MUSIC IS MUSIC ITS GOOD MUSIC OR BAD MUSIC
ALOT OF JAZZ MUSICIAN ARE NOT SAVED IS THE INSTUMENTALS UNHOLY
QUOTE THE VERSE WHERE GOD WILL EVEN USE THE UNBELIEVER FOR HIS PLAN
IS IT A KEY OF MUSIC THAT IS EVIL ( I HAD SOMEBODY TELL ME THAT Eb IS A HOLY KEY IN A PREVIOUS DISSCUSION)
WILL LOVE AND RESPECT ONLY MY VIEWS
My preference is totally old school. It seemed to have more depth, more anointing and power. Artists such as Rev. James Moore & Mississippi Mass, Rev. James Cleveland, The Caravans, The Angelic Gospel singers, The Hawkins Family, Rev. Charles Nicks, Rev. Charles Fold, Rev. Clay Evan & AARC and Dr. Charles G Hayes, which are considered "over the hill" by many, but the effects for me still remain the same.
First, lets get the scripture right. It says,
Psalm 22:3
"But thou art holy, O thou that inhabitest the praises of Israel."
...so the BIBLE says that "thou art holy" and David makes it clearly known first. We then must understand that "holy" means to be sacred, consecrated (set apart). The only way that a "Holy" God will inhabit praise is if the praise is from a holy source.
Now Israel had a form of praise and worship that was so unique and holy (consecrated/set apart) from those heathen/pagan nations around them, that when they where taken into Babylon this what happened,
Psalm 137:3-5
"For there they that carried us away captive required of us a song; and they that wasted us required of us mirth, saying, Sing us one of the songs of Zion. How shall we sing the LORD's song in a strange land?"
The way they sung, danced and worshipped was so different, that those who knew NOT God, desired of them mirth (jubalant praise) and songs. God's people should have their OWN style of worship.
My question in this whole matter is, How is your praise and worship holy unto God (which he inhabits), if its done in a worldly format?? How is "hip hop" tactics a unique form of praise that could possibly draw unbelievers into true holiness if its an imitation of worldliness?? There is an assimulation going on by satan, permitting believers to use HIS tactics to try to wins souls... and the deception is, "WOW, look at the numbers of youth accepting this!" The bible again states,
Matthew 7:22-24
"Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."
...you can't win Nelly by imitating Nelly.... you can't win Lil Jon, if ya snapping yo fingaz like him!
Lord help...
so who cares what yall have to say.
I gotcha sjon, sorry bout that, I'm tryin to do better!!!
Apparently my friend you misunderstood my post and thought I was addressing ONLY gospel "rap" and "hip- hop" which isn't true.
I personally don't listen to Kirk Franklin, Mary Mary, Tonex (Ooops), Fred Hammond and many other contemporary "gospel" artist as their music really do not appeal to my taste. If it is YOUR prefence, then that is your liberty and perogative, but I've personally seen the effects of contemporary/hip-hop verses traditional/devotional music on a congregation of believers.
My preference is totally old school. It seemed to have more depth, more anointing and power. Artists such as Rev. James Moore & Mississippi Mass, Rev. James Cleveland, The Caravans, The Angelic Gospel singers, The Hawkins Family, Rev. Charles Nicks, Rev. Charles Fold, Rev. Clay Evan & AARC and Dr. Charles G Hayes, which are considered "over the hill" by many, but the effects for me still remain the same.
Be blessed...
Well James Cleveland was a pedophile ( into young boys Reported after his death in ebony as well as other magazines) but you love his music and his life was a mes. But it still blessed you right?
Justa thought: This music may bless young people. These rappers may actually be living the life. Which is better to do music that doesn not appeal or fit traditional church or to do music but also live the life that God is pleased with? :)
What if I said to you that your statement has to do with the time and culture in which you were reared and raised? Some of the artists that you mentioned are 'ok' for me; but, at the same time, I'd just as quickly turn off some of their recordings as I would a Kirk Franklin or Tonex recording. ;)
My question in this whole matter is, How is your praise and worship holy unto God (which he inhabits), if its done in a worldly format?? How is "hip hop" tactics a unique form of praise that could possibly draw unbelievers into true holiness if its an imitation of worldliness?? There is an assimulation going on by satan, permitting believers to use HIS tactics to try to wins souls... and the deception is, "WOW, look at the numbers of youth accepting this!"