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Title: Effects on the bass
Post by: newbasspl on October 14, 2006, 05:34:11 PM
What are best kinds of effects to play on the bass in church.Will a tremolo effect pedal make the bass sound like a lead guitar?What will a octavizer make the bass sound like?
Title: Re: Effects on the bass
Post by: malthumb on October 14, 2006, 08:50:54 PM
What are best kinds of effects to play on the bass in church.Will a tremolo effect pedal make the bass sound like a lead guitar?What will a octavizer make the bass sound like?

Typically, I'd say wait until you have command of your instrument before adding effects.  What do I mean by command of your instrument.....  A couple things.  First, you have to feel comfortable enough to feel as though when you are playing, you are having a conversation with your other band members and with the congregation / audience.  You are speaking a language and your bass is your tongue.  Secondly, you need to know the finer points of that particular instrument that you own.  How much does a tweak of the low mids change your tone?  How much do you bias towards one pick up or the other to get a particular tone?

Then your choice of effects will come naturally to you.  You will know what you want your bass to say and will be able to experiment with effects in music stores and HEAR what sounds best for you.

Now, after all that, I would say one thing you may want to consider is a compressor.  It helps to clean up your tone by accenting frequencies around the true frequency of the note you are playing and de-emphasizing frequencies on the fringes, including unwanted sympathetic vibration from unplayed strings and sometimes finger noise.

If you truly feel like you gotta gotta gotta play around with effects, I would suggest you get a practice tool that includes some basic effects (Korg Pandora PX4B, Tascam CDBT-1) or get a decent multi-effects pedal unit like a Zoom 506 or a Zoom 708 or any number of similar products made by Digitech or Boss or any number of similar products that I just can't pull off the top of my head right now.

An octaver will double up the notes that you play.  You will hear the note at the range you play it plus either an octave higher or an octave lower than the note you actually play.  Play the 3rd fret on your E string and your open G string at the same time.  That's how an octaver might sound if you only played the G string open.

Peace,

James
Title: Re: Effects on the bass
Post by: Cherri on October 15, 2006, 09:09:38 AM
Now that's sound advice...
Title: Re: Effects on the bass
Post by: Andrzej on October 15, 2006, 12:51:47 PM
I have lots of effects (9 pedals and two racks), but I only use three effects pedals at church;  an envelope filter, octave and a bass synth (on occasion).  I have never found much use for anything else.  If your amp doesn't already have a compressor built in then buying a standalone pedal would be the first effect to use before any other.

I would follow malthumbs advice before stepping up to using other effects, especially triggered effects such as envelope filters.  They can make an unconfident player sound worse.  Rememeber, pedals do not improve your playing...they just sprinkle a little enhancement.
Title: Re: Effects on the bass
Post by: MikeGee on October 15, 2006, 07:39:24 PM
I feel as though I have gained that command of my bass that malthumb was refering to. Another way to put it. I am confident that when I strap on my bass and play, speak and minister with my fellow band mates I feel like we including I will make a joyful noise onto the LORD. I am ready to experiment with effects this is the unit that I want first.



http://www.samsontech.com/products/productpage.cfm?prodID=1900&brandID=4
Title: Re: Effects on the bass
Post by: MikeGee on October 15, 2006, 07:41:34 PM
I'd like to get an effects rack unit after that but man the prices are crazy and I think that the effects in the Behringer rank unit sound bad the amp/cab models are great but I'm not after those.
Title: Re: Effects on the bass
Post by: Dani_D on October 15, 2006, 08:10:56 PM
Wow, this is all great stuff..Thanks for the info.

Know I was not really looking for any tyoe of pedal effects but it seem like the compressor should be a most have. I looked around online and saw a few for under 100. I was trying to fine one with a combo compressor/tuner. Is there such thing?