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Gospel Instruments => General Music Hangout => Topic started by: michaeln on December 06, 2006, 12:17:45 PM
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Not sure if this has been posted if so please direct me there. I was wonder if you guys could team up again and give a lesson/understanding of playing worship and warfare during service or just plain practice. I sat down with the lesson and the midi for the shout music and with time I'll be ready. Please include tempo and how to apply the fingering and getting that presence of spirit flowing.....
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Well one simple trick for warfare chords is to use major chords based on the minor scale of that particular key. For example let's take the key of Ab.
The minor scale for Ab is Ab, Bb, B, C#, Eb, E, Gb, Ab. Based on this you would play Ab in the left hand (double up on the octave.) In the right hand you would play Ab Major, then Bb Major, B Major, C#Major, Eb Major, E Major, Gb Major, and then Ab Major. There's really no temp to it. It's go to use when the praise and worship is real high. You can use this theory in any key. Simply play major chords based on the minor scale of that particular key.
I hope this helps you out. I have plenty more if interested.
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Well one simple trick for warfare chords is to use major chords based on the minor scale of that particular key. For example let's take the key of Ab.
The minor scale for Ab is Ab, Bb, B, C#, Eb, E, Gb, Ab. Based on this you would play Ab in the left hand (double up on the octave.) In the right hand you would play Ab Major, then Bb Major, B Major, C#Major, Eb Major, E Major, Gb Major, and then Ab Major. There's really no temp to it. It's go to use when the praise and worship is real high. You can use this theory in any key. Simply play major chords based on the minor scale of that particular key.
I hope this helps you out. I have plenty more if interested.
I'm interested, keep 'em coming. ;D
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Yes I'm interested please keep posting and anyone that wants to SHOW US HOW YOU PRAISE THE LORD ON THE KEYS.
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I'm very interested!!!!
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I'm glad you all liked the chords. Here's a few more (We'll stay in Ab for now to stay consistent with the previous post)
Another real simple trick is to throw a diminished chord in to add flavor to a simple chord. For example, if you're on the organ, the most basic "worship" chord is E Ab Bb C#. Just play the chord with your right hand along with E and Bb in the left hand. Now for the diminished chord. In the left hand play F# A C in the right hand play F# A C Eb. The trick comes in holding either Ab or Eb on the bass pedal when playing the progression.
You can also play the first chord with a Bb bass followed by the next chord with a C in the bass followed by the first chord again with C# in the bass. Your last chord would be Eb/Eb C/Eb Ab C.
Another simple trick involves a very simple run to make it look like you're just killing. If you're in Ab, simply do the blues scale all the way down based on the relative minor of that key. If you are in Ab, the relative minor is F (to figure out relative minors simply count three half steps down from the key and play the minor chord.) So in Ab, you play F, Eb, C, B, Bb, Ab, F. Go all the way down the key board but try to make it clean. It's a very crisp run. It's arpeggiated so it's very quick. Start slow to get used to it and pick up speed. Guys like Jason Tyson (MD for Smokie Norful do it all the time). Listen to the organ playing on the intro to Umm Good to know what I'm talking about. I'll post more later today. What keys do you guys need?
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Key may not matter for me, but do you have the means of recording and posting a sound clip. Aslo is the any theory behind what to and when to play.... THAINKS AND BE BLESSED......
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I have plenty of clips of me playing but I don't know how to reduce the size of the files in order to post them. Any tips?
As far as the theory goes, I try to stay around the circle of fifths when playing worship/warfare chords. It makes it easy to change keys and also allows me to get back to my original key fairly easily.
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What is the file type and average size of the file? www.youtube.com may be an option because I'm unsure of the TOP/LARGEST file size that can be uploaded here. Once I get your responce I may have more ideals then.
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Hello,,,,, :o the post is still open to all lets talk ;D
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I still don't understand what the heck warfare chords are. If you want worship chords, then all u gotta do is play some progressions slowed down, but do it with feeling.
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I still don't understand what the heck warfare chords are. If you want worship chords, then all u gotta do is play some progressions slowed down, but do it with feeling.
I think he was asking for certain kinds of worship chords, like the ones michaeln gave. Those don't come from regular progressions; at least from what I've seen, heard or played. But, I'm still a young cat in the game. ;)
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Well, this is a new term for me, so I'm still trying to understand what they are. Who came up with these types of chords?
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Warfare chording is something that I heard from Jamal's site. If I'm understanding it correctly its when the worship goes up a notch almost like fighting thru the spirit of song. I'm new http://www.gospelkeyboard.com/Urban_Worship/Clips/Israel.wmv (http://www.gospelkeyboard.com/Urban_Worship/Clips/Israel.wmv) this is the closest that I can come to explaining this......
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Here are some warfare chords i learned from Jamals Site
LH / RH
Eb / F#BbEb
C# / AbC#F
B / BbC#F#
over and over
i usually play these chords when the pastor or minister is prohesying or praying for people real nice chords.
i usually play it with a piano and maybe a warm pad or strings and it will give you a nice worship sound
i have a midi file of it too :)
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Well, it seems like all u have to do is play those worship chords u already play with more feeling. I think any chords would do just fine, just have that umph behind it.
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Well, it seems like all u have to do is play those worship chords u already play with more feeling. I think any chords would do just fine, just have that umph behind it.
I couldn't agree more. All you have to do is add "feeling" to your playing. The simplest thing to do for worship and warfare chords is to take chords you play in various songs already. Phillip Feaster (the MD for New Direction) offered me the best advice. You have to hear it in your mind before you can play it. Experiment with various chords and progressions from various songs.
P.S. As far as warfare chords go....I'm not really sure what is meant by warfare chords. Maybe you mean with the worship chords take a different turn and become stronger and more driving? If so, you can solve that problem by playing minor 7ths a lot of times.
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How about these chords:
"He Is Here" by: Bishop Paul S. Morton (Bow Down CD track #12)
Key eb/Gb LH/RH
Vamp:
[1] Eb / Eb
[2] Db / F
[3] Cb / Gb
[4] Bb / Ab Hal-
[1, 2, 3, 4] Ab / Gb-Cb-Eb le-
[1, 2, 3, 4] Bb / Ab-Db-F lu-
[1, 2, 3, 4] Cb / Bb-Eb-Gb ja-
[1, 2, 3, 4] Eb / Ab-Db-F ah, hal-
[1, 2, 3, 4] Ab / Gb-Cb-Eb le-
[1, 2, 3, 4] Bb / Ab-Db-F lu-
[1, 2, 3, 4] Eb / Bb-Eb-G jah. *bounce chord
(repeat)
These should be some very familiar chords, but the key is to play them with a whole lot of feeling. Even the "Praise Is What I Do" Vamp chords will work here:
"Praise Is What I Do" by: Shekinah Glory
Key eb/Gb LH/RH
Vamp:
[1] Eb / Gb-Bb-Eb Praise
[2] Db / Ab-D-F is
[3] Cb / Bb-Eb-Gb what
[4] Bb / Ab-Db-F I
[1, 2, 3, 4] Ab / Cb-Eb-Gb-Bb do-
[1, 2, 3, 4]
[1, 2, 3, 4] Db / Ab-Db-F-Ab oooo,
[1, 2] Bb / Bb-Db-F-Ab
[an, 3, 4] is what I do.
Ending 1:
[1, 2, 3, 4] Eb / Eb-Ab-Bb-Eb *bounce chord
[1, 2, 3, 4] Eb / Eb-Ab-Bb-Eb *bounce chord
[1, 2, 3, 4] Eb / F-G-Bb-Eb *bounce chord
(back to beginning)
Ending 2:
[1, 2, 3, 4] G / F-Bb-Eb
[1, 2, 3, 4] F / Eb-Ab-Bb-Eb
[1, 2, 3, 4] Eb / F-G-Bb-Eb
(back to beginning)
Ending 3 (found on William Murphy's All Day CD):
[1, 2, 3] G / F-Bb-Eb
[4] Ab / Gb-Cb-Eb
[1, 2]
[3, 4] Bb / Ab-Db-F
[1, 2, 3, 4] Eb / Bb-Eb-G
(back to beginning)
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Forgive me if I've mislead you in my request but I believe its all going the direction now. Thanks for the input and keep ideals and chords coming. I'm new to this all but I'm teachable. GOD BLESS!
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Praise the Lord,
Warfare chords they seem to me like to used to Worship and to go to God in Prayer for the battle thats ahead. TBlock has excellent examplesa: He is Here and Shekinah Glory because when I hear their music this is what I think of. It makes me think of being right in front of God petitioning for my request, for his majesty, thinking him for not only for what he has done but for Who He IS!!! Here is an example of what comes to me, I used the chords that were posted. With these chords I switched up the chords with the different basses and let the Spirit of the Lord guide me. I hope it blesses someone.
Brother Mark Wilson
LH / RH
Eb / F#BbEb
C# / AbC#F
B / BbC#F#
Here is the walkdown from Eb to B
Eb/ Db F Gb Bb
D/ C E F# Ab
Db/ B Eb E Ab
C/ Bb Eb E Ab
http://www.learngospelmusic.com/media/displayimage.php?album=random&cat=21017&pos=-2174
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Thanks for all responses and the mp3 file posted. As I've mentioned in other post I am a beginner and eventhough I know some theory I still need thing broken down. As I listen to GeneralMusic's post I tried to hear and match what he posted for chords in MP3 file that was posted. Is there any way that you can simplify or disect what you've done. And in T-Block's post what I think I understand is that it's played in 4/4 time ( 1, 2, 3, 4] Ab / Gb-Cb-Eb le-) so do I play the chord 4 times before moving to next chord like this:
MEASURE 1
(1) Ab / Gb-Cb-Eb
(2) Ab / Gb-Cb-Eb
(3) Ab / Gb-Cb-Eb...................................Or play and hold the chord for a 4 count (ie. whole note)
(4) Ab / Gb-Cb-Eb
next measure
Also if anyone can give and instruction of other example on playing WORSHIP (warfare) music please do. T-Block also posted "PRAISE IS WHAT I DO" I love this song but another that I love and we sing in church is "FALLEN ON ME" could some body do this in a lesson style post. I know that I ask a lot but I'm thankful for anything posted that moves me forward in my playing for the LORD.
I aslo came a cross this http://www.learngospelmusic.com/articles/view.php?lgmid=69 isn't talk music same as worship music....????
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And in T-Block's post what I think I understand is that it's played in 4/4 time ( 1, 2, 3, 4] Ab / Gb-Cb-Eb le-) so do I play the chord 4 times before moving to next chord like this:
MEASURE 1
(1) Ab / Gb-Cb-Eb
(2) Ab / Gb-Cb-Eb
(3) Ab / Gb-Cb-Eb...................................Or play and hold the chord for a 4 count (ie. whole note)
(4) Ab / Gb-Cb-Eb
next measure
The numbers represent the number of counts that you hold the chord for. So,:
[1, 2, 3, 4] Ab / Gb-Cb-Eb means hold the chord for 4 counts.