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Title: Praise Team Issues
Post by: childofgod4u on December 18, 2006, 09:49:43 AM
I was recently appointed youth praise team leader.We have sang a couple of times,but there seems to be a problem.Everytime we have sang we have not sounded good at all. In practice we are boomin with the right harmonies and the music is just right but when it comes to sunday morning....musicians dont remember the keys and melodies and the squad act like they cant sing anymore.I don't understand.

Please help!!!! They are talented group of kids but when it comes to sundays they get stuck.What can I do to help sound the same like they did at our rehersals.

thanks in advance
Title: Re: Praise Team Issues
Post by: THE WOLFMAN on December 18, 2006, 10:02:23 AM
can u do a quickie rehearsal before service?
Title: Re: Praise Team Issues
Post by: sjonathan02 on December 18, 2006, 10:07:12 AM
I was recently appointed youth praise team leader.We have sang a couple of times,but there seems to be a problem.Everytime we have sang we have not sounded good at all. In practice we are boomin with the right harmonies and the music is just right but when it comes to sunday morning....musicians dont remember the keys and melodies and the squad act like they cant sing anymore.I don't understand.

Please help!!!! They are talented group of kids but when it comes to sundays they get stuck.What can I do to help sound the same like they did at our rehersals.

thanks in advance


More than likely, they're nervous before service. They're kids, after all and it happens. Work on their self-esteem and confidence and see if THAT doesn't improve their overall sound.
Title: Re: Praise Team Issues
Post by: docjohn on December 18, 2006, 10:49:55 AM
PRAY!!! pray before practice,pray before sevice!!!  the enemy does all he can to sidetrack us.few years ago was in a band with some heavy players.(one cat had been on the road with andre crouch at age 12) came time to minister,if we weren't prayed up and for,looked like we had never seen our axes till we got up to pray.so pray,and then pray some more!!!!be blessed. as far as esteem,paul said i have NO confidence in the flesh.GOD exalts the humble,and opposes the proud. too much dr phil self -esteem type stuff- our GLORY is CHRIST-in us
Title: Re: Praise Team Issues
Post by: THE WOLFMAN on December 18, 2006, 11:13:29 AM
PRAY!!! pray before practice,pray before sevice!!!  the enemy does all he can to sidetrack us.few years ago was in a band with some heavy players.(one cat had been on the road with andre crouch at age 12) came time to minister,if we weren't prayed up and for,looked like we had never seen our axes till we got up to pray.so pray,and then pray some more!!!!be blessed. as far as esteem,paul said i have NO confidence in the flesh.GOD exalts the humble,and opposes the proud. too much dr phil self -esteem type stuff- our GLORY is CHRIST-in us

We're talking about kids, mind you. That sounds reeeeeal good, but how many kids do you know that understand the writings of Paul?


Lets not get too "churchified" that we forget that there is a development process that still has to take place. 


Prayer is critical. Self-esteem is also important. .


I CAN do all things through CHRIST....

While there is the acknowledgement that it IS through Christ, there is still the need to take possession of that authority(exusia) and ability(dunamis)which Christ enables us to excercise through Him.

You feel good when you know you "can"-e.g. Self-esteem. Although the "can" comes from Christ.
Title: Re: Praise Team Issues
Post by: childofgod4u on December 18, 2006, 11:35:33 AM
can u do a quickie rehearsal before service?

Generally we don not always have time due to sunday school,But I will try that idea.Thank you
Title: Re: Praise Team Issues
Post by: sjonathan02 on December 18, 2006, 11:41:07 AM
We're talking about kids, mind you. That sounds reeeeeal good, but how many kids do you know that understand the writings of Paul?


Lets not get too "churchified" that we forget that there is a development process that still has to take place. 


Prayer is critical. Self-esteem is also important. .


I CAN do all things through CHRIST....

While there is the acknowledgement that it IS through Christ, there is still the need to take possession of that authority(exusia) and ability(dunamis)which Christ enables us to excercise through Him.

You feel good when you know you "can"-e.g. Self-esteem. Although the "can" comes from Christ.



Jesus, is that You, in this post?  ;)
Title: Re: Praise Team Issues
Post by: THE WOLFMAN on December 18, 2006, 11:58:05 AM


Jesus, is that You, in this post?  ;)


Nah, name's Rufus.

I overheard im talkin to His Old man one day, figured i put in im my repetoire...

He owes me 20 dollars tho....

(http://clipmarks.com/image_cache/THE_WOLFMAN/512/7E3AD2A2-857D-4962-BA7C-4A66FE905ABD.jpg)
Title: Re: Praise Team Issues
Post by: B_XALTED on December 18, 2006, 06:59:51 PM
I was recently appointed youth praise team leader.We have sang a couple of times,but there seems to be a problem.Everytime we have sang we have not sounded good at all. In practice we are boomin with the right harmonies and the music is just right but when it comes to sunday morning....musicians dont remember the keys and melodies and the squad act like they cant sing anymore.I don't understand.

Please help!!!! They are talented group of kids but when it comes to sundays they get stuck.What can I do to help sound the same like they did at our rehersals.

thanks in advance

LOL... Tiffany..... dont you ever notice thats why I stop beatin the drums??? LOL......

Naw, but look at where our church was two years ago, and look at it now that we have helped them out..... through prayer and our own experience. I am encouraging you to the fullest. I can see in your face week after week that you are ready to give up, but dont. You were put in that position for a reason...... Dont be discouraged please. And like Sjon said, they are kids, and are probably nervouse...... I will help in any way that I can..... Just remember that I got your back. Look over at me next time, and I will yell out the right note..... or throw a drum stick.....

...and as for the musicians.... LOL.................... some one once told me, that if you have nothing nice to say...  :-X  :-X  :-X
Title: Re: Praise Team Issues
Post by: childofgod4u on December 18, 2006, 10:53:03 PM
LOL... Tiffany..... dont you ever notice thats why I stop beatin the drums??? LOL......

Naw, but look at where our church was two years ago, and look at it now that we have helped them out..... through prayer and our own experience. I am encouraging you to the fullest. I can see in your face week after week that you are ready to give up, but dont. You were put in that position for a reason...... Dont be discouraged please. And like Sjon said, they are kids, and are probably nervouse...... I will help in any way that I can..... Just remember that I got your back. Look over at me next time, and I will yell out the right note..... or throw a drum stick.....

...and as for the musicians.... LOL.................... some one once told me, that if you have nothing nice to say...  :-X  :-X  :-X


You know I never understand y I ever listen to you...you are retarded...LOL But I know u got my back and yea I do feel like givin up sometimes but u see im in this to win this and next time Imma out a mic on the drums so that u can hold my tenor and alots down..as far as the soprano...well u no.But thanks for the encouraging words and try and keep ur musicians on track PLEASE....LOL

Title: Re: Praise Team Issues
Post by: THE WOLFMAN on December 18, 2006, 10:58:39 PM
y'all two go to the same church?
Title: Re: Praise Team Issues
Post by: sjonathan02 on December 19, 2006, 06:38:58 AM
y'all two go to the same church?


You don't miss much, do you?  ::)   ;D
Title: Re: Praise Team Issues
Post by: B_XALTED on December 19, 2006, 06:45:40 AM
y'all two go to the same church?

Ummmmmm.... thats my sister. LOL.....
Title: Re: Praise Team Issues
Post by: B_XALTED on December 19, 2006, 06:46:44 AM
Tiffany, you can also fake like you are gettin happy.... Like I did that time I had that solo....

I faked like I was getting happy and knocked down all the mics.......... No singin for me... LOL.
Title: Re: Praise Team Issues
Post by: childofgod4u on December 19, 2006, 08:02:29 AM
Tiffany, you can also fake like you are gettin happy.... Like I did that time I had that solo....

I faked like I was getting happy and knocked down all the mics.......... No singin for me... LOL.

How about not ROTFLMBO.......we are no longer related u have a problem but yeah thanks everyone for the advice.
Title: Re: Praise Team Issues
Post by: bishopcole on December 19, 2006, 08:04:47 AM
Tiffany, you can also fake like you are gettin happy.... Like I did that time I had that solo....

I faked like I was getting happy and knocked down all the mics.......... No singin for me... LOL.


Yes indeed!!  Bishop Cole
Title: Re: Praise Team Issues
Post by: B_XALTED on December 19, 2006, 08:16:46 AM
How about not ROTFLMBO.......we are no longer related u have a problem but yeah thanks everyone for the advice.

Oooooh, you can have one of the little kids pull the fire alarm too....... that always works.

But for real, where we are now, is HUGE compared to where the church was before. I know how you know who fells about you know what... so we just gonna hursh...... the musicians will come. But God isnt going to send a blessing in the midst of confussion, crap, and inconsistency. Its coming.... trust me, look at how far I have come. Look at how far you have come, your choir and PT..... its a tremendous work..... jsut stay prayerful, and know that all things work together for the good..... You are gonna look back on this a praise God for what He had planned all along. Just be patient.....

Oh, and errrr, ummmmm......... Have you seen my white Nikes???? I cant find 'em yo....

Anyway, see you later.
Title: Re: Praise Team Issues
Post by: B_XALTED on December 19, 2006, 08:17:15 AM

Yes indeed!!  Bishop Cole

 ?/?  ?/?  ?/?  ?/?
Title: Re: Praise Team Issues
Post by: childofgod4u on December 19, 2006, 08:46:39 AM
Oooooh, you can have one of the little kids pull the fire alarm too....... that always works.

But for real, where we are now, is HUGE compared to where the church was before. I know how you know who fells about you know what... so we just gonna hursh...... the musicians will come. But God isnt going to send a blessing in the midst of confussion, crap, and inconsistency. Its coming.... trust me, look at how far I have come. Look at how far you have come, your choir and PT..... its a tremendous work..... jsut stay prayerful, and know that all things work together for the good..... You are gonna look back on this a praise God for what He had planned all along. Just be patient.....

Oh, and errrr, ummmmm......... Have you seen my white Nikes???? I cant find 'em yo....

I know that's right...cbc has come a very long long way and I would have to say it is gettin better no matter how much confusion crap or even miscommunication goes on...the church is movin on to bigger and better thangs....what did yo pastor talk about on sunday?LOL....But everyday I stay prayed up when I walk in them doors everytime so I know this is how He wanted it to be......bythe way rehersal was a hot mess last night...no lisa no drummer...d was trippin on the keys and the choir I don't even wanna go there

As far as ur nikes go u better check ur nephew or Tookie....LOL

Anyway, see you later.
Title: Re: Praise Team Issues
Post by: B_XALTED on December 19, 2006, 08:49:39 AM
Pls excuse us LGM.... LOL...... we are a very open family... LOL.....


Title: Re: Praise Team Issues
Post by: childofgod4u on December 19, 2006, 09:00:21 AM
?/?  ?/?  ?/?  ?/?
Be nice
Title: Re: Praise Team Issues
Post by: B_XALTED on December 19, 2006, 09:39:43 AM
Be nice

Okay...... you know what about you know when right??? so hursh.....
Title: Re: Praise Team Issues
Post by: Kirkseydlw on December 19, 2006, 12:46:18 PM
keep working with tham   and pray before
Title: Re: Praise Team Issues
Post by: Mysteryman on December 19, 2006, 01:26:25 PM
I was recently appointed youth praise team leader.We have sang a couple of times,but there seems to be a problem.Everytime we have sang we have not sounded good at all. In practice we are boomin with the right harmonies and the music is just right but when it comes to sunday morning....musicians dont remember the keys and melodies and the squad act like they cant sing anymore.I don't understand.

Please help!!!! They are talented group of kids but when it comes to sundays they get stuck.What can I do to help sound the same like they did at our rehersals.

thanks in advance

Im becoming a broken record. This is why churches need to warm up and do exercises. You have to train your ear to a certain sound. Usually some churches only have one rehearsal before singing a song that can be a mistake especially if you have unskilled singers.
Title: Re: Praise Team Issues
Post by: THE WOLFMAN on December 19, 2006, 02:11:58 PM
Im becoming a broken record. This is why churches need to warm up and do exercises. You have to train your ear to a certain sound. Usually some churches only have one rehearsal before singing a song that can be a mistake especially if you have unskilled singers.

Churches need to warm up, period..
Title: Re: Praise Team Issues
Post by: B_XALTED on December 19, 2006, 02:17:53 PM
Im becoming a broken record. This is why churches need to warm up and do exercises. You have to train your ear to a certain sound. Usually some churches only have one rehearsal before singing a song that can be a mistake especially if you have unskilled singers.

I know first hand that this is NOT the issue. We have 2 rehearsals before that particular Sunday.... and I can see if it were new songs everytime, but this is stuff that they know. They know the notes, they know the harmonies..... But I believe that the confidence is missing.

I am the drummer for this choir, and I can definitely say that there is a very large amount of discomfort....  They are KIDS surely, but I know tons of KIDS who are ministers, choir directors, MOMs and such....

I think it will come in time Tiffany, prayer, fasting and faith........ hang in there. I will see you and mom at rehearsal... I'll play the keys this time. LOL NOT!!!
Title: Re: Praise Team Issues
Post by: Mysteryman on December 19, 2006, 02:56:14 PM
I know first hand that this is NOT the issue. We have 2 rehearsals before that particular Sunday.... and I can see if it were new songs everytime, but this is stuff that they know. They know the notes, they know the harmonies..... But I believe that the confidence is missing.

I am the drummer for this choir, and I can definitely say that there is a very large amount of discomfort....  They are KIDS surely, but I know tons of KIDS who are ministers, choir directors, MOMs and such....

I think it will come in time Tiffany, prayer, fasting and faith........ hang in there. I will see you and mom at rehearsal... I'll play the keys this time. LOL NOT!!!

Well Simon says kids cant sing. LOL

I could say the same thing about our church choir but I know its because they do not have enough training. If a school teacher can get a bunch of little kids in harmony and sing to presidents then churches can too.
Title: Re: Praise Team Issues
Post by: B_XALTED on December 19, 2006, 02:56:54 PM
Well Simon says kids cant sing. LOL

I could say the same thing about our church choir but I know its because they do not have enough training. If a school teacher can get a bunch of little kids in harmony and sing to presidents then churches can too.

Heeeeheeeeheeeeheeee... LOL.
Title: Re: Praise Team Issues
Post by: B3Wannabe on December 19, 2006, 04:47:57 PM
....YALL IS FAMILY?!....


No..I'm kidding....


See....That's why I present stuff to our choir by the YEAR! LOL

...AND WE STILL DON'T GET TO LEARN ALL THE SONGS! I presented 13 songs, in January, last year, and we only learned 6, and I didn't go crazy and throw any Tye or James Hall (ok maybe one James Hall, but it was "Joy to the world" and that one is easy!), but one of our problems is that our singers are VERY MUCH beginners. They're getting better, but the MAIN problem is that they come like 30-40 minutes late to a rehearsal that's 1 hour and 30 minutes long. I tried sitting people down, and even putting them on the "inactive" roster, but they still do the same thing. But like I said before, we're getting better, so maybe we can sing "Joy to the world" next year.
Title: Re: Praise Team Issues
Post by: KurzLand on December 19, 2006, 10:50:22 PM



 but the MAIN problem is that they come like 30-40 minutes late to a rehearsal that's 1 hour and 30 minutes long. I tried sitting people down, and even putting them on the "inactive" roster, but they still do the same thing.

WoW really?

I wouldn't be happy with people that came 40 min. late, even if they are getting better.
Title: Re: Praise Team Issues
Post by: childofgod4u on December 19, 2006, 10:51:17 PM
Well Simon says kids cant sing. LOL

I could say the same thing about our church choir but I know its because they do not have enough training. If a school teacher can get a bunch of little kids in harmony and sing to presidents then churches can too.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Praise Team Issues
Post by: childofgod4u on December 19, 2006, 10:56:04 PM
....YALL IS FAMILY?!....


No..I'm kidding....


See....That's why I present stuff to our choir by the YEAR! LOL

...AND WE STILL DON'T GET TO LEARN ALL THE SONGS! I presented 13 songs, in January, last year, and we only learned 6, and I didn't go crazy and throw any Tye or James Hall (ok maybe one James Hall, but it was "Joy to the world" and that one is easy!), but one of our problems is that our singers are VERY MUCH beginners. They're getting better, but the MAIN problem is that they come like 30-40 minutes late to a rehearsal that's 1 hour and 30 minutes long. I tried sitting people down, and even putting them on the "inactive" roster, but they still do the same thing. But like I said before, we're getting better, so maybe we can sing "Joy to the world" next year.

Yeah we family...LOL...that is my sis. But ya know what I have learned that it takes time for this kind of thing..this church is doin a 180 right aout now and they don't know how to handle it yet.And it MAKING them work for what they want.
Title: Re: Praise Team Issues
Post by: sjonathan02 on December 20, 2006, 06:35:30 AM
....YALL IS FAMILY?!....


No..I'm kidding....


See....That's why I present stuff to our choir by the YEAR! LOL

...AND WE STILL DON'T GET TO LEARN ALL THE SONGS! I presented 13 songs, in January, last year, and we only learned 6, and I didn't go crazy and throw any Tye or James Hall (ok maybe one James Hall, but it was "Joy to the world" and that one is easy!), but one of our problems is that our singers are VERY MUCH beginners. They're getting better, but the MAIN problem is that they come like 30-40 minutes late to a rehearsal that's 1 hour and 30 minutes long. I tried sitting people down, and even putting them on the "inactive" roster, but they still do the same thing. But like I said before, we're getting better, so maybe we can sing "Joy to the world" next year.


Then they are asked to remove themselves from the choir. You can't have that from teenagers, else they'll continue to do this as adults. Train up a child, bruh!  ;)
Title: Re: Praise Team Issues
Post by: B3Wannabe on December 20, 2006, 08:54:49 AM

Then they are asked to remove themselves from the choir. You can't have that from teenagers, else they'll continue to do this as adults. Train up a child, bruh!  ;)

THESE ARE GROWN FOLKS! SOME OF THEM ARE OLDER THAN ME, DUDE! LOL
Title: Re: Praise Team Issues
Post by: sjonathan02 on December 20, 2006, 10:27:52 AM
THESE ARE GROWN FOLKS! SOME OF THEM ARE OLDER THAN ME, DUDE! LOL



Then you can REALLY have them removed because they are setting bad precedents.  ;)
Title: Re: Praise Team Issues
Post by: uniquepraise on December 21, 2006, 01:14:13 PM
Somebody need to catch on fire and burn with the HOLLLLYYY GHHHHOOOOOOSSSSS!!! ;D
Title: Re: Praise Team Issues
Post by: Furious Styles on December 21, 2006, 03:38:35 PM
Dealing with the frustration isn't easy however when it comes to children have a little more patience. Encourage them on the wonderful job they did. Inspire confidence in them and train them to sing to the glory of God and not the applause of man. The precedent we can set by teaching them to sing for man will teach them how to possibly be the Next X-Rated singer.

This isn't sugar coating anything. Jesus told the disciples that they were the light of the world before they were confident enough to cast out devils. We have to call things that are not as though they were. Do that consistently for a few weeks and see the difference.
Title: Re: Praise Team Issues
Post by: LadyWiz on January 03, 2007, 10:39:32 PM
I was recently appointed youth praise team leader.We have sang a couple of times,but there seems to be a problem.Everytime we have sang we have not sounded good at all. In practice we are boomin with the right harmonies and the music is just right but when it comes to sunday morning....musicians dont remember the keys and melodies and the squad act like they cant sing anymore.I don't understand.

Please help!!!! They are talented group of kids but when it comes to sundays they get stuck.What can I do to help sound the same like they did at our rehersals.

thanks in advance

I'm on my church's praise team and what REALLY helps me remember songs that we practiced Tuesday night all the way to Sunday morning is I tape record it and during the week I play the STANK off that tape  :D :D until I get it right.....and it's had a chance to work its way into my spirit.

Title: Re: Praise Team Issues
Post by: sjonathan02 on January 04, 2007, 06:43:25 AM
I'm on my church's praise team and what REALLY helps me remember songs that we practiced Tuesday night all the way to Sunday morning is I tape record it and during the week I play the STANK off that tape  :D :D until I get it right.....and it's had a chance to work its way into my spirit.


That will work for resposible adults. We're talkin' about kids here, and if they haven't been taught discipline concerning such matters, then one has to wait until they 'get it'.  :-\