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Title: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: Churchgirl on December 29, 2006, 11:21:57 AM

THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
by Evangelist Aleechea Pitts

Homosexuality is a stronghold that is running rapid in and out of
the church. A very basic definition of a strong hold is a "hiding
place". It's in our mind, will or emotions and is a place where
negative thoughts or emotions "hide" until the enemy is ready to use
them against us. A stronghold is something that keeps you bound.
Strongholds are anything that binds your spirit down. Won't let you
be free, bound down. Strongholds can be something from your past
that you haven't let go of it yet and it is hindering your spirit.
Strongholds aren't easy to get rid of, but if one desire to get rid
of the things that bind them down, then seek God and keep seeking
him. Isaiah 58:6 says, "Is not this the fast that I have chosen? to
loose the fetters of wickedness, to undo the bands of the yoke, and
to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke?"

Homosexuality is a lifestyle that is easy to get into but hard to
get out of. It carries along with it other sexual perversions. The
more you gratify the flesh the more it wants. Flesh is never
satisfied. It's like a person addicted to cocaine. You try to
reach the first high but can never attain it. Most people who have
attained the first high that were addicted to this substance most
likely overdosed and few recovered from it yet others have died.
The Bible lets us to know that the wages of sin is death. Not only
physically but spiritually as well. But the gift of God is eternal
life through Jesus Christ our Lord. There is a way out through
Jesus Christ.

Sin is sin no matter what form it is in. You are not your own but
you have been bought with a price. Jesus paid the price. His blood
cleanses us from all unrighteousness. Yes, even homosexuality and
lesbianism. We must all recall to our mind where the Lord has
brought us from. Remember how long it took for you to get
delivered! Sinners have souls too. The Bible lets us to know that
it was with loving kindness that God drew us to himself. God will
always love sinners just as much as he loves the saints.

There is hope. Isaiah 10:27 says, "And it shall come to pass in
that day, that his burden shall be taken away from off thy shoulder,
and his yoke from off thy neck; and the yoke shall be destroyed
because of the anointing. Those who are in the homosexual life
style whether you are out of the closet or not (even in the church)
if you kneel down to pray, Jesus will wash your sins away. 1 John
1:9 says, "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to
forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." A
broken and contrite spirit he will not despise. Those of you who
are slipping and sliding, peeping and hiding, ducking and dodging in
the church (especially those in leadership), you must turn to God
with your whole heart in order to be effective ministers. Are we
not all ministers?

The question is, "Do you want to be delivered? Do you really want
to be set free?" If the answer is yes, then you will do whatever it
takes... If that means deleting phone numbers, not accepting phone
calls, cutting yourself off from those in that particular lifestyle,
you will be willing to do it. Why? Because you got your mind up,
no turning back. You can do all things through Christ who
strengthens you!

Ask your self this question: How much do you love Jesus? Jesus
said, "If you love me you will keep my commandments." Leviticus
18:22 says, "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it
is abomination." In other words, you will abide by my word in its
entirety. Leviticus 20:13 says, "If a man also lie with mankind, as
he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination:
they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon
them." There are things I could be doing to gratify this flesh but
because I love God I choose to first deny myself and the things I
desire and take up my cross and follow Him. Those of you are
spiritually mature know what I'm talking about. His commandments
are not grievous. It is for our benefit that we obey his
commandments. He has given us everything pertaining to life and
godliness.

Now is the time to give your life to Christ! You ought to give your
life to him; he'll forgive you for your sins. You need to come to
Jesus while he is nigh! He's waiting on you! John 3:16 says, "For
God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son that
whosoever would believe in him would have everlasting life." If
you believe on him you can have life. Believe in your heart and
confess with your mouth that God has raised Jesus from the dead. He
will save you right now! Come to Jesus, right now. He is a way out
of no way. If you try him I guarantee he will lift you up. Is there
anybody reading this that knows what I'm talking about? Anybody
ever been down in the dumps and Jesus picked you up and turned you
all around? If you come, he will forgive you! Somebody said if
you're a drunkard, he'll make you a deacon. If you're a prostitute,
he might make you a preacher. All you have to do is give your life
to him. COME TO CHRIST!

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: ChildofGod316 on December 29, 2006, 12:16:26 PM

i am so glad your on this topic. You see my pastor is Gay... and he knows I know. Well he doesnt want the other church memebers to know because he could loose his lisence.. And well he also has his Gay guys come over to the parsonage where he lives. He also has a gay sister that lives there, and another gay old man there around 75years old.... Im wondering what to do... Now that Im pregnant hes saying that could mess up his image and hasn't been speaking to me nore the guy im pregnant by and the reason for that is that the guy that Im with is who he likes so he gets jealous.. Now to tell all the business but Im wanting to leave. I am the musician there and have been on in off since I was 12years old. Please help me out. I know its not right and he knows it too, and I am so badly wanting to tell, but then he really doesnt want to preach anyway like he said all hes doing os going to church to church using them for money because he doesnt have anywhere to go if he did loose this job to preach. What kind of man of God is that? And he says God forgave him, yes he did but why are you still going to gay bars and clubs meeting men and doing God's know what?? he hes looking down on me because Im now pregnant..its makes no since. But please give me an answer on that. Thanks God Bless

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: hammondboy on December 29, 2006, 01:12:08 PM

Quote from: ChildofGod316 on December 29, 2006, 12:16:26 PM

i am so glad your on this topic. You see my pastor is Gay... and he knows I know. Well he doesnt want the other church memebers to know because he could loose his lisence.. And well he also has his Gay guys come over to the parsonage where he lives. He also has a gay sister that lives there, and another gay old man there around 75years old.... Im wondering what to do... Now that Im pregnant hes saying that could mess up his image and hasn't been speaking to me nore the guy im pregnant by and the reason for that is that the guy that Im with is who he likes so he gets jealous.. Now to tell all the business but Im wanting to leave. I am the musician there and have been on in off since I was 12years old. Please help me out. I know its not right and he knows it too, and I am so badly wanting to tell, but then he really doesnt want to preach anyway like he said all hes doing os going to church to church using them for money because he doesnt have anywhere to go if he did loose this job to preach. What kind of man of God is that? And he says God forgave him, yes he did but why are you still going to gay bars and clubs meeting men and doing God's know what?? he hes looking down on me because Im now pregnant..its makes no since. But please give me an answer on that. Thanks God Bless

Pray and seek GOD and justv because the brother is GAy :o doesn't mean that the people of god can't learn something from him/she because the bible stats that GiIFTS AND CALLINGS ARE WITHOUT REPENTANCE. ;D

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: lockslie1 on December 29, 2006, 01:45:20 PM

Quote from: hammondboy on December 29, 2006, 01:12:08 PM

Pray and seek GOD and justv because the brother is GAy :o doesn't mean that the people of god can't learn something from him/she because the bible stats that GiIFTS AND CALLINGS ARE WITHOUT REPENTANCE. ;D

I believe that the bible tells us that so we will not be fooled, deceived, and taken advantage of by people who have gifts, callings, and the FORM of godliness but denying the power thereof. Unsaved people have gifts, but the that does not mean they are sent from God. So many praise God and put on a front, but their hearts are far from God. I would say pray and read the word and don't be deceived. One question though...If you don't feel you are lead to tell and you feel it is wrong what he is doing then why stay at that church?   

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: lockslie1 on December 29, 2006, 01:57:32 PM

SORRY...WHAT WAS I THINKING ::) ....WHY IS THIS IN THE PIANO ROOM ANYWAY??  :-X :-X :-X

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: lumbebear1 on December 29, 2006, 02:49:22 PM

Why os this posted in the Piano & Organ Rooms

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: SisterT on December 29, 2006, 03:37:42 PM

Churchgirl please check your pm.  ;)

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: BigFoot_BigThumb on December 29, 2006, 03:45:49 PM

If he's doing all of that, believe me, they know.  If he's willing to cast you aside to "save his image," then he's not a real friend or Pastor.  I true friend is with you though the rough times wiothout missing a beat.  If he is using ministry just to get mony, then God will deal with him soon enough.  If you're not happy there, you may need to make a move.  If you're getting good word, then get that word, and be out. 

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: Soul_Flower on January 01, 2007, 11:57:19 AM

Quote from: hammondboy on December 29, 2006, 01:12:08 PM

Pray and seek GOD and justv because the brother is GAy :o doesn't mean that the people of god can't learn something from him/she because the bible stats that GiIFTS AND CALLINGS ARE WITHOUT REPENTANCE. ;D

So what are you saying? That it's ok to be gay and preaching Gods word like they oh so holy.  Hey, I know that nobody is perfect.  All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.  BUT, this dude is just out there bogus.  He preaching the word one minute and the next he is in the club trying to pick up some dude to take home and looking down his nose at the sista for her mistakes.  OH HECKY NAW!!  >:(  And to make it worse, the way she tells the story, he sounds as if he has no remorse or intent to seek deliverance.  That's just crazy.  He should be nowhere near the pulpit.

I will be praying for you sister.  I pray God give you strength to do what He wants you to do.  That He protects you and your child. I pray He direct you in the way that you should go and keep you always.  God bless you Child of God.............for that is truly what you are.

Smooches!!  8)

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: therealben on January 01, 2007, 01:14:04 PM

Quote from: ChildofGod316 on December 29, 2006, 12:16:26 PM

i am so glad your on this topic. You see my pastor is Gay... and he knows I know. Well he doesnt want the other church memebers to know because he could loose his lisence.. And well he also has his Gay guys come over to the parsonage where he lives. He also has a gay sister that lives there, and another gay old man there around 75years old.... Im wondering what to do... Now that Im pregnant hes saying that could mess up his image and hasn't been speaking to me nore the guy im pregnant by and the reason for that is that the guy that Im with is who he likes so he gets jealous.. Now to tell all the business but Im wanting to leave. I am the musician there and have been on in off since I was 12years old. Please help me out. I know its not right and he knows it too, and I am so badly wanting to tell, but then he really doesnt want to preach anyway like he said all hes doing os going to church to church using them for money because he doesnt have anywhere to go if he did loose this job to preach. What kind of man of God is that? And he says God forgave him, yes he did but why are you still going to gay bars and clubs meeting men and doing God's know what?? he hes looking down on me because Im now pregnant..its makes no since. But please give me an answer on that. Thanks God Bless

My friend, this man does not worship God. Anything that does not give my Father his glory, must be dethroned.  As stated, homosexuality is a spirit ( and i do know this, because the lord Destroyed it off of me, Gloty be to GOD ). This man is not a man of God, and the Wicked one is using him as a transmitter. The spirits which are in him, are being transmitted into the congregation. Although you tink the man does not want to lose his license, the real reason is that spirit does not want to loose him and wants to continue its transmission. 

We must expose the devil and his works, for when they are exposed they can be destroyed. The Lord is coming back for a pure church, without spot, blemish, or wrinkle. The Devil knows this and had a council meeting some years back on how to defile/pollute the church, especially if it can be done "undercover". Sexual perversions is part of this tactic that was suggested to him.  So what you see now is part of the enemy plans to defile the house of God. As many have said, seek the lord first, and make sure you are clear with him. Because if you attack the devil, you know he will attack back. I will tell you something the lord told me 2 weeks ago.

"Remember, man ordains, but I Anoint!."

You must choose between someone who is ordained, or someone who is Anointed. For the Anointing destroys the yoke, not ordination.

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: hammondboy on January 02, 2007, 11:29:07 AM

Quote from: Soul_Flower on January 01, 2007, 11:57:19 AM

So what are you saying? That it's ok to be gay and preaching Gods word like they oh so holy.  Hey, I know that nobody is perfect.  All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.  BUT, this dude is just out there bogus.  He preaching the word one minute and the next he is in the club trying to pick up some dude to take home and looking down his nose at the sista for her mistakes.  OH HECKY NAW!!  >:(  And to make it worse, the way she tells the story, he sounds as if he has no remorse or intent to seek deliverance.  That's just crazy.  He should be nowhere near the pulpit.

I will be praying for you sister.  I pray God give you strength to do what He wants you to do.  That He protects you and your child. I pray He direct you in the way that you should go and keep you always.  God bless you Child of God.............for that is truly what you are.

Smooches!!  8)

All i'm saying is that as person can be annoited but be a homosexual and can preach but also i'm not saying that it is alright either to be gay what he does is between him and God.

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: TightestGroove on January 02, 2007, 10:28:33 PM

WELL THAT STILL DOES NOT SOUND RIGHT. I DON'T THINK YOU CAN BE ANNOINTED BY THE GOD ALMIGHTY HIMSELF AND STILL BE GAY. RIGHTEOUSNESS AND UNRIGHTEOUS CANNOT COEXIST!

 :o TIGHTEST GROOVE :o

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: Prophetic Remnant on January 03, 2007, 12:47:17 AM

Quote from: hammondboy on January 02, 2007, 11:29:07 AM

All i'm saying is that as person can be annoited but be a homosexual and can preach but also i'm not saying that it is alright either to be gay what he does is between him and God.

I'm sorry. The Bible does say gifts come without repentance but that's it. You can be gifted and be a homosexual but you can not be annointed and be homosexual. There is a difference. Gift is what's in you, the annointing is what's one you.

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: hammondboy on January 03, 2007, 01:53:08 PM

Quote from: Prophetic Remnant on January 03, 2007, 12:47:17 AM

I'm sorry. The Bible does say gifts come without repentance but that's it. You can be gifted and be a homosexual but you can not be annointed and be homosexual. There is a difference. Gift is what's in you, the annointing is what's one you.

SO are you saying that when the holy ghost comes in and takes overs the service and the spirit is on everybody at that point of time the spirit hit him/she and the lord tells them to do something and they do it they not annoited but to me if the lord tells them to do something at that time they are annoited to work in an area which god told them to do plus god can use anybody he wants to use. you have deacons,pastors,bishops... etc. that drink, and smoke, and have sex with many partners so are saying there not annoited to.

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: Keys410 on January 03, 2007, 02:22:41 PM

Homosexuality is an evil spirit that is tricking alot of people....I would be very careful who I would let minister to me especially knowing that they live a gay lifestyle.... I know of several churchs where the leader seems to be a little sweet and the young men in the church are growing up to be just as sweet...The holy ghost can not dwell in an unclean temple... Now I still show love to homosexuals and dont stone them for the lifestyle they live but you can not call yourself a man or woman of God and live like that....

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: TightestGroove on January 03, 2007, 03:14:53 PM

I AGREE

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: Prophetic Remnant on January 03, 2007, 06:14:32 PM

Quote from: hammondboy on January 03, 2007, 01:53:08 PM

SO are you saying that when the holy ghost comes in and takes overs the service and the spirit is on everybody at that point of time the spirit hit him/she and the lord tells them to do something and they do it they not annoited but to me if the lord tells them to do something at that time they are annoited to work in an area which god told them to do plus god can use anybody he wants to use. you have deacons,pastors,bishops... etc. that drink, and smoke, and have sex with many partners so are saying there not annoited to.

Where are the Scriptures to back this up?

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: hammondboy on January 03, 2007, 11:31:11 PM

Quote from: Keys410 on January 03, 2007, 02:22:41 PM

Homosexuality is an evil spirit that is tricking alot of people....I would be very careful who I would let minister to me especially knowing that they live a gay lifestyle.... I know of several churchs where the leader seems to be a little sweet and the young men in the church are growing up to be just as sweet...The holy ghost can not dwell in an unclean temple... Now I still show love to homosexuals and dont stone them for the lifestyle they live but you can not call yourself a man or woman of God and live like that....

I Argee with you homosexuality is an evil spirit. But how do we know that person has something for the body of god.
I have been in plenty of churches that have a gay preacher and when that person ministers to the body I seen people get delivered and some have came back to the Lord.

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: Prophetic Remnant on January 04, 2007, 01:55:31 AM

There is a difference between a gift (one that is very useful and even edifying) and the anointing (the Holy Ghost empowering you).

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: sjonathan02 on January 04, 2007, 06:51:46 AM

Quote from: hammondboy on January 03, 2007, 11:31:11 PM

I Argee with you homosexuality is an evil spirit. But how do we know that person has something for the body of god.
I have been in plenty of churches that have a gay preacher and when that person ministers to the body I seen people get delivered and some have came back to the Lord.

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Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: Keys410 on January 04, 2007, 08:17:23 AM

Quote from: hammondboy on January 03, 2007, 11:31:11 PM

I Argee with you homosexuality is an evil spirit. But how do we know that person has something for the body of god.
I have been in plenty of churches that have a gay preacher and when that person ministers to the body I seen people get delivered and some have came back to the Lord.

There are some folks who can "Hoop and Holla" and make you think they are the most anointed person in the world. Once again the holy ghost CAN NOT dwell in an unclean temple....and homosexuality is a disgrace to God....If he thought it would be ok the he would have made Adam and Steve not Adam and Eve... I honestly believe people can read the word and take it in front of the church and really make you think they were anointed. The word is what brings people to Christ not the person to saying it...So if the Pastor is preaching the word then the word will bring convicition and bring that person to Christ...But that man can not be a man of God...

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: Churchgirl on January 04, 2007, 08:40:44 AM

In 2 Timothy 3:16 it states that, "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:" Jesus said in Matthew 5:17, "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil." In the later part of Ephesians 2: 19b-20a it says, "... the saints and members of the household of God, having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets

In my article I emphasized Christ love is unchangeable. John 13:1 in the later part of the verse says, "Having loved his own who were in the world, he loved them to the end." His love was manifested by his death. 1 John 3:16 says, "Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren." His love was self sacrificing. John 15:13 says, "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends." So we know that God is love but there is also another side of God which is anger or wrath:

Rember Jesus beat the moneychangers out of the temple in John 2:14-17 says, "And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and
doves, and the changers of money sitting: And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the
sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables; And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things
hence; make not my Father's house an house of merchandise And his disciples remembered that it was written, The zeal of thine house hath
eaten me up."

Romans 1:18 states, "For the WRATH OF GOD is revealed from heaven against ALL UNGODLINESS AND UNRIGHTEOUSNESS OF MEN...

John 3:36 states, "He who believes in the son has everlasting life and HE WHO DOES NOT BELIEVE THE SON shall not see life BUT THE WRATH OF
GOD ABIDES ON HIM."

Let us not forget Hebrews 10:26-28 states, "For if we sin wilfully AFTER THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH, there
remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, But a certain fearful looking for of JUDGMENT and FIERY INDIGNATION, which shall devour the
adversaries. HE that DESPISED MOSES' LAW DIED WITHOUT MERCY under two or three witnesses:"

So my brothers and my sisters, let us not forget that GOD HATES SIN. Luke 16:15 says, "And he said unto them, YE ARE THEY which justify
yourselves before men; BUT GOD KNOWETH YOUR HEARTS: FOR THAT WHICH IS HIGHLY ESTEEMED AMONG MEN is ABOMINATION IN THE SIGHT OF GOD.

 Let us not be like the Pharisee!  What is going on in the world was prophesied by Jesus. These are the signs of the times and the end of the age. Jesus said when you see these things KNOW THAT THE TIME IS NIGH EVEN AT THE DOOR. In Isaiah 48:22 says, "There is no peace" says, the Lord for the wicked."

Humbly submitted,
Evangelist Aleechea Pitts

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: Churchgirl on January 04, 2007, 08:56:24 AM

 My main position is that homosexuality is a sin according to the Bible. If you want to disregard the Levitical prohibitions against
homosexuality as part of the obsolete Levitical laws, that's fine, but you must be prepared to disregard the other biblical teachings.
In Romans 1:26-27 Paul is very specific, "For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the
natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one
toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was
meet." In 1 Corinthians 6:9, Paul wrote, "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived:
neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind." The Greek word from which
the King James Bible gets the word "effeminate" is malakos, which literally means something soft to the touch, but is used as a
negative metaphor to refer to a boy kept for homosexual relations with a man. The "abusers of themselves with mankind" are those men
who engage in unnatural sexual relations with other men – homosexuals. That is also how the NASB, the NKJV, and the NIV
translate that verse. Also in the New Testament is verse 7 from the book of Jude, defining exactly why Sodom and Gomorrah were punished –
homosexuality. I'm willing to disregard the Levitical passages as part of the Levitical law, but that doesn't dismiss these New
Testament references. This is in addition to the biblical teachings that sex is only between a man and woman who are married.

Humbly submitted
Evangelist Aleechea Pitts

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: dingster1 on January 04, 2007, 09:44:53 AM

I gave someone these same scriptures yesterday. SHe has a co-worker who claims that God "ordained" her relationship with her partner!!!

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: thatsmeonthemike on January 04, 2007, 01:49:17 PM

Quote from: Keys410 on January 04, 2007, 08:17:23 AM

There are some folks who can "Hoop and Holla" and make you think they are the most anointed person in the world. Once again the holy ghost CAN NOT dwell in an unclean temple....and homosexuality is a disgrace to God....If he thought it would be ok the he would have made Adam and Steve not Adam and Eve... I honestly believe people can read the word and take it in front of the church and really make you think they were anointed. The word is what brings people to Christ not the person to saying it...So if the Pastor is preaching the word then the word will bring convicition and bring that person to Christ...But that man can not be a man of God...

You are telling the truth. 

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: Soul_Flower on January 04, 2007, 06:12:04 PM

Quote from: hammondboy on January 03, 2007, 11:31:11 PM

I Argee with you homosexuality is an evil spirit. But how do we know that person has something for the body of god.
I have been in plenty of churches that have a gay preacher and when that person ministers to the body I seen people get delivered and some have came back to the Lord.

So, in other words, the gay preacher is helping others get deliverance but is choosing to stay the way he is.  I don't know about anyone else,  but I refuse to go to church where the "man of God" does not practice what he preaches.  He is supposedly helping those who are bound find deliverance but he himself remains bound by homosexuality. THAT IS BEYOND CRAZY!! All ministers who do this, wheather they are not married and sleeping with the opposite sex or apart of homosexuality and sleeping with the same sex, are setting bad examples for not only young people but for those who are young spiritually and trying to find their way.

People who live in darkness can not be a light for those who are in the darkness as well.  It makes no sense.  I don't care how many folks are shouting and jumping about.  There is something NOT of God getting through as well.  It's sending a bad message.  And I don't care what ministry they are in.  Whether the minister, the choir director, missionary, I don't care, they need to be removed from their position until DELIVERANCE is aquired.  God Bless!!

Smooches!!  

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: Soul_Flower on January 04, 2007, 06:21:30 PM

Quote from: Keys410 on January 04, 2007, 08:17:23 AM

There are some folks who can "Hoop and Holla" and make you think they are the most anointed person in the world. Once again the holy ghost CAN NOT dwell in an unclean temple....and homosexuality is a disgrace to God....If he thought it would be ok the he would have made Adam and Steve not Adam and Eve... I honestly believe people can read the word and take it in front of the church and really make you think they were anointed. The word is what brings people to Christ not the person to saying it...So if the Pastor is preaching the word then the word will bring convicition and bring that person to Christ...But that man can not be a man of God...

Amen Keys!! I'm wit ya on that one.

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: T-Block on January 04, 2007, 06:46:23 PM

I see this another way as well.  Even though we have church leaders that we are under, we still have to know the Word for ourselves.  Just because the leaders or someone else is doing wrong, that don't mean u have to do it too.  If u know what is right, but choose not to do it, u just as wrong as the person doing wrong.  When that judgement day comes, God is not going to accpet "My leaders was doing it, so I figured it was o.k. to do it too."

You can look at those who are doing wrong and use that as an example of what NOT to do.  Just like if u see someone smoking, and they coughing and dying from lung cancer, it don't take a doctor to know that I don't want to smoke cuz I see what it's doing to that other person.

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: Soul_Flower on January 04, 2007, 06:53:53 PM

You right T-Block!!  I hear that.  You're absolutely right.

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: ReddGirl on January 05, 2007, 01:07:53 AM

Be not deceived God is not mocked whatsoever a man's sow that shall he also reap.

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: Prophetic Remnant on January 05, 2007, 01:14:03 AM

Quote from: ReddGirl on January 05, 2007, 01:07:53 AM

Be not deceived God is not mocked whatsoever a man's sow that shall he also reap.

It's one of God's natural laws of the universe.

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: AP Psalmist Jackson on January 05, 2007, 08:13:25 PM

Quote from: ChildofGod316 on December 29, 2006, 12:16:26 PM

i am so glad your on this topic. You see my pastor is Gay... and he knows I know. Well he doesnt want the other church memebers to know because he could loose his lisence.. And well he also has his Gay guys come over to the parsonage where he lives. He also has a gay sister that lives there, and another gay old man there around 75years old.... Im wondering what to do... Now that Im pregnant hes saying that could mess up his image and hasn't been speaking to me nore the guy im pregnant by and the reason for that is that the guy that Im with is who he likes so he gets jealous.. Now to tell all the business but Im wanting to leave. I am the musician there and have been on in off since I was 12years old. Please help me out. I know its not right and he knows it too, and I am so badly wanting to tell, but then he really doesnt want to preach anyway like he said all hes doing os going to church to church using them for money because he doesnt have anywhere to go if he did loose this job to preach. What kind of man of God is that? And he says God forgave him, yes he did but why are you still going to gay bars and clubs meeting men and doing God's know what?? he hes looking down on me because Im now pregnant..its makes no since. But please give me an answer on that. Thanks God Bless

Sister I have sincerely prayed for you and all these people involved.  I usually read through the threads and then speak as the Lord gives me utterance.  I've been through some of what you're going through but not in the same form.  It was through relationships, jealousies and these types of things.  It did NOT feel good and I try to stay out of situations like this as much as I can.  I really did pray to the Father about what to say to you and about this situation.  The only thing He put on my mind is what I'm about to say.  I knew a congregation that had a gay music minister three times.  He's there now.  That congregation of people PREFERS a practicing homosexual as their music minister.  I did not practice this sin while I was there and I was shunned and mistreated because I didn't.  Yet, I praise God because this speaks of Christ's glory that I suffered for righteousness sake.  When I heard of two ladies "praying" for that man to come back there, this grieved Christ's body and myself for a long time.  I was scribing down a sermon one day and the Lord spake so clearly about what happened to those people:

2 Thessalonians 2:1-12  Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,  That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.  For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Now sister, we ALL need to repent/confess and get right with God (Romans 3:23).  Sexual sins are WRONG.  You did not say that you were married to the man who's the daddy of your baby.  I'm NOT highlighting your sins only but speaking to myself too (Hebrews 4:12).  This sin needs to be repented/confessed of and you get right with God about this.  I say this in love because I'm concerned for your soul and spiritual well being.  It doesn't matter how long you're there but if God sends this congregation to hell and you stay there, guess where you're going?  Sincerely seek the Lord God about you staying there because this is NOT a playing matter.  I speak to myself and everyone that's reading this too. 

It is written:

Matthew 18:15-22  Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican. Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven. For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them. Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times? Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.

Galatians 6:1  Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.

I've had to deal with these same scriptures earlier this week and the Word is VERY clear about how to deal with sin in Christ's body:

2 Thessalonians 3:6-18  Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us. For yourselves know how ye ought to follow us: for we behaved not ourselves disorderly among you; Neither did we eat any man's bread for nought; but wrought with labour and travail night and day, that we might not be chargeable to any of you: Not because we have not power, but to make ourselves an ensample unto you to follow us. For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat. For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies. Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread. But ye, brethren, be not weary in well doing.  And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed.  Yet count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother. Now the Lord of peace himself give you peace always by all means. The Lord be with you all. The salutation of Paul with mine own hand, which is the token in every epistle: so I write. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen. <<The second epistle to the Thessalonians was written from Athens.>>

Now these scriptures are God's Words and they came from Him (Hebrews 4:12, II Timothy 3:15-16).  Again, I'm preaching to myself too, OK?

Regarding the sin in this preacher and his sister, this could be a generational curse they need delivering from because Christ CAN deliver them (and us too) from these things but again here's His Word on these matters:

2 Chronicles 7:14  If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

and ALL of Deuteronomy 28!

Your relating to this preacher, your baby's dad and you and your relationship with this congregation NEEDS to be brought to the Cross in Jesus name.  What's between you, the dad and the preacher is the works of the flesh (Galatians 5:19-21) and "can" end up with physical harm.  You all, according to God's leading, direction and supervision, need to separate.  Spiritually speaking, every generational curse on the baby needs to be broken and the child as well as all of us need to be given back to God in Jesus name.  Consider Hannah's story from the Word of God.

I read therealben's post and I'm more of the mindset of what's going on in this congregation spiritually.  These people are just players (satan's people).  There is a greater spiritual warfare going on here and it's NOT good.  Anytime a false one is leading a congregation you can pretty much rest assured that satan is doing something massive but God IS GREATER.  In spite of all this satanic stuff, God IS GREATER than all of these.  As I shared earlier, I did seek the Lord about this matter because it's a serious one and these things NEED to be dealt with.

Submitted in, by, with and through His love and His Spirit (Zechariah 4:6)!

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: Amira on January 06, 2007, 10:11:22 AM

 ::) i agree with Soul flower.

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: ABMJ on January 19, 2007, 09:20:57 AM

Quote from: T-Block on January 04, 2007, 06:46:23 PM

I see this another way as well.  Even though we have church leaders that we are under, we still have to know the Word for ourselves.  Just because the leaders or someone else is doing wrong, that don't mean u have to do it too.  If u know what is right, but choose not to do it, u just as wrong as the person doing wrong.  When that judgement day comes, God is not going to accpet "My leaders was doing it, so I figured it was o.k. to do it too."

You can look at those who are doing wrong and use that as an example of what NOT to do.  Just like if u see someone smoking, and they coughing and dying from lung cancer, it don't take a doctor to know that I don't want to smoke cuz I see what it's doing to that other person.

This is good and I understand what you are saying.  But this only works for strong Christians.  What about new converts who have to look at the leader on what is right and wrong.  And I don't think God wants anyone to follow anyone who is leading in a spirit that's not like Him(Christ).

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: Keys410 on January 19, 2007, 10:03:18 AM

Quote from: ABMJ on January 19, 2007, 09:20:57 AM

And I don't think God wants anyone to follow anyone who is leading in a spirit that's not like Him(Christ).

Honestly if your Pastor is living a homosexual lifestyle that means you really need to talk to God....People dont notice but they can confuse being in the spirit with pleasing the flesh....The flesh has a way of making you feel comfortable when its really against your spirit....God gives us Pastors after his own heart....I doubt God would give you a Pastor that can not follow his word and has no desire

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: T-Block on January 19, 2007, 05:35:46 PM

Quote from: ABMJ on January 19, 2007, 09:20:57 AM

What about new converts who have to look at the leader on what is right and wrong.

No matter what mess is going on in a church, there is at least one person or a few people there doing right.  The new converts should seek out the people who they know are living right and follow their example until they can stand on their own, even if that person is not in leadership position or if that person goes to another church.  New converts may be weak, but I doubt that they are stupid, they can tell when something ain't right.

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: ABMJ on January 22, 2007, 08:05:42 AM

Quote from: Keys410 on January 19, 2007, 10:03:18 AM

Honestly if your Pastor is living a homosexual lifestyle that means you really need to talk to God....People dont notice but they can confuse being in the spirit with pleasing the flesh....The flesh has a way of making you feel comfortable when its really against your spirit....God gives us Pastors after his own heart....I doubt God would give you a Pastor that can not follow his word and has no desire

That's right doc. When someone steps in your church EVERY Christian should look and have the mindset of Jesus Christ! "Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus."

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: brotee on February 22, 2007, 01:13:09 PM

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This is tooooooooo tuffff

 Let Gods word be true....

2 Corinthians 5:17 (Whole Chapter)
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
   Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
   For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
   Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
   Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
   And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
   Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
   Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
   For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
   And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
   And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
   Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
   Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
   Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
   Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: TightestGroove on February 22, 2007, 10:12:53 PM

I DONT KNOW HOW TRUE THIS IS BUT MY BOY SAW ON YOUTUBE TYE TRIBBETT PREACHING AGAINST HOMOSEXUALITY AT RICKY DILLARD'S BENEFIT CONCERT, I'M NOT MAKING ANY ASUMPTIONS OR ANYTHING. I THINK SOMEONE TOOK IT OFF THOUGH, BUT IF ANYONE FINDS IT POST THAT QUICK TIME!!! THANKS A BUNCH!!

 :o TIGHTEST GROOVE :o
 

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: CMiner on March 28, 2007, 03:34:29 PM

WHen I frist started reading your post, I was shocked by the fact that you said "your pastor"..because if I knew for certain that my pastor was gay....he wouldn't be my pastor for long. 

I'll say this....everything or everyone that says they are called by GOD isn't "CALLED" by GOD.  The devil is slick, and yes he's managed to slip a few in, but all shall be revealed.  Once it is revealed, it's up to us to make things right.  We must protect God's house and all that reside there.  Where can this man lead you and your congregation if he's doing this. Maybe he should step down as Pastor until he allows GOD work this out for him.

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: braineyone on March 28, 2007, 07:00:07 PM

As a licensed psychologist I have often come face to face with this issue in a clinical setting.  And although my training places me on a different side of the fence as my faith, I am always clear as to the word of God, regarding sin.  But the grips of homosexuality are so powerful that many wrestling with this issue forsake family and friends.  Mainly because they think no one understands them - that they were created this way.  Scientific evidence gives some support to a biological component in homosexuality.  However, many studies have proved that although there may be a biological predisposition, persons are usually "socialized" into such behavior by visiting gay establishments, and surrounding themselves with that which supports the homosexual lifestyle.  A very complicated subject that the church had avoided for years!  Nevertheless, the pastor with the gay sister and gay senior, frequenting gay bars, and living in the parsonage should be exposed, and turned-out!  He should have the chance to reconcile himself to Christ, but he "IS NOT" what God expects as a spiritual leader.  How easy it is for us to allow someone to mislead souls into hell!  Based upon the issues outlined, he is not in good moral standing to hold a professional license, why would he be allowed to hold a congregation spiritually hostage?[/right]

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: TheTuna on March 29, 2007, 04:15:35 AM

As a straight shooter ...
You need to tell your pastor to step down or you are going to expose him to the church. I know it sounds blunt, but there are ways to do this appropriately. What he is doing as LEADER and a TEACHER is wrong! Just as Ted Haggard knew what he was doing. Also watch your self you may begin to rationalize what he is doing. We can convince our selfs over time wrongs can become rights.

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: minofmusic on April 02, 2007, 09:16:44 AM

Light cannot exist where darkness is present. i agree that homosexuality is a strong spirit. if GOD said it in his holy word that he doesnt honorhomosexuality and told us not to partake in it, then it is settled, it is done, there is no way to wiggle around what GOD said. We cannot make our Walk with Christ convenient to the way we want to live. In Sunday School yesterday the Title of the lesson Was the "The Cost of Dicipleship" you cant go around doing what you want to do, you may get by but you wont get away!

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: hammondboy on April 02, 2007, 11:57:45 PM

1 Chr. 16:22 & Ps. 105:15 Saying, Touch not mine anointed and do my prophets no harm.
So right now your Pastor is in then backsliding state WE never no who God called to minister so just keep praying for him/she that the LORD will deliver them. and plus Donnie mcclurkin  was like this to and he was ministering the word of god

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: Kirkseydlw on April 04, 2007, 11:04:09 AM

that is not right at all

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: T-Block on April 04, 2007, 11:40:59 AM

Quote from: hammondboy on April 02, 2007, 11:57:45 PM

1 Chr. 16:22 & Ps. 105:15 Saying, Touch not mine anointed and do my prophets no harm.
So right now your Pastor is in then backsliding state WE never no who God called to minister so just keep praying for him/she that the LORD will deliver them. and plus Donnie mcclurkin  was like this to and he was ministering the word of god

There is no such thing as a backsliding state.  Either you are or are not living holy.  If your life can't back up what u preaching about, then frankly u don't need to be preaching at all.

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: sjonathan02 on April 04, 2007, 11:50:07 AM

Quote from: T-Block on April 04, 2007, 11:40:59 AM

There is no such thing as a backsliding state.  Either you are or are not living holy.  If your life can't back up what u preaching about, then frankly u don't need to be preaching at all.

I disagree.

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: T-Block on April 04, 2007, 12:28:08 PM

Quote from: sjonathan02 on April 04, 2007, 11:50:07 AM

I disagree.

About which part? or is it the whole thing?  It's cool to disagree, nothing wrong wit it. :D

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: sjonathan02 on April 04, 2007, 01:24:43 PM

Quote from: T-Block on April 04, 2007, 12:28:08 PM

About which part? or is it the whole thing?  It's cool to disagree, nothing wrong wit it. :D

The whole thing, actually. To me, it leaves no room for a person in leadership to err. And, there were plenty of people who were 'in leadership' in the Bible who erred, but that didn't disqualify them to God; they were still anointed to a work through Him.  ;)

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: T-Block on April 04, 2007, 01:41:46 PM

Quote from: sjonathan02 on April 04, 2007, 01:24:43 PM

The whole thing, actually. To me, it leaves no room for a person in leadership to err. And, there were plenty of people who were 'in leadership' in the Bible who erred, but that didn't disqualify them to God; they were still anointed to a work through Him.  ;)

Erring is one thing, but to keep it going for years, that's another story.  That's the people i'm talking about.  A mess up here and there is understandable.

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: sjonathan02 on April 05, 2007, 08:28:12 AM

Quote from: T-Block on April 04, 2007, 01:41:46 PM

Erring is one thing, but to keep it going for years, that's another story.  That's the people i'm talking about.  A mess up here and there is understandable.

Oh, ok. Gotcha.  ;)

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: GUTCH on June 25, 2007, 02:48:23 AM

hi i read you post and i strongly agree with you. sin is sin. i want to share this with the body of Christ. my mom was given a prophetic ministry some 20 yrs. ago and she went to deliver a word that the Lord had give to her concerning a church that we knew the pastor and many others were living that lifestyle. well they wouldn't except God's judgement call and shortly after God's wrath fell on that church and now the one minister died and the pastor is dying from aids. God hates sin and for some people who have been enlightened and know the truth but willfully continue to sin. it reminds me of sodon and gomoriah. we can't fool ourselves thinking that our God who is holy and loves us so much and sent Jesus to redeem us back to him ; how could we think that he would allow us to after Jesus paid a heavy price for our sin. there are consequences if anyone continue in any lifestyle that God hates. satan will use any forum to desecrate the body of Christ if we let. God says that we will be without excuse and he says that the wages of sin is death, no half way house, it is what it is.

Title: Re: THE STRONGHOLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Post by: blessedwoman on June 26, 2007, 02:22:50 PM

I thank God for this topic because a family joined my father's church a couple of weeks ago and the two daughters are around my age so they kind of cling to me and my sisters.  Well, one day the one came out and told me that she was struggling with lesbianism and how she has a boyfriend, but doesn't really like him because she still has feelings for the female.  It was a suprise to me because I didn't know she was like that, but I told her that I wasn't going to judge because she already knows the way. I encouraged and I told her that she already passed the first step by confessing that she has a problem.

Needless to say, we just came back from GA on Sunday from a revival my father preached, and she was my roommate at the hotel. God allowed me to speak to her and encourage her and low and behold the same thing that I was giving her is the same thing that my father preached on and then to back it up a prophetess had came on the trip with us and she spoke on Saturday and she preached on the same thing and on our way home she told her that the word was specifically for her. She told her that she has already been delivered, but she just has to walk in it. I was just amazed on how good God is. He sent the family to our church for a reason and like she said if she would have stayed at the church she was at, she would have still been bound, but GOD knows who and what we need, when we need it.

I thank you all for the scriptures, now I can show them to her.