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Gospel Instruments => Gospel Drummers => Topic started by: Hotsticks1 on January 26, 2007, 02:01:38 PM
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Hey everybody. I was on myspace and I was checking out some of my favorite drummers profiles. Calvin Rodgers and Gerald Heyward, Aaron Spears and those guys, and I noticed how they give credit to their favorite drummers. Then while checking out some of their material, and I noticed that you can hear alot of their favorite drummers within their playing styles. Like Calvin Rodgers for instance you can hear alot of Vinnie C. in his playing. Personaly my mentor told me to become a sponge in the drum industry. Soak up as much of everybody you hear as you can, and try to mold what you get to fit in with what else you play.
In saying that I was wondering what drummers do you think most influence your playing style, and in what areas...
For me I'd have to say:
1. Dave Weckl - Pockett
2. Spanky - Modern Technique
3. Bernard "Pretty" Purdie - Old School, ghost notes, and funk grooves
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...I personally can't say that I have a certain drummer that influences my style. My influences come from just listening to many drummers and musicians and trying to let the music that they are playing influence my style if that makes sense. I try to listen to drummers that aren't known to the "masses" because those guys are playing real honest music. Anyway, the guys that I'm listening to and are influencing my style now are:
Horacio "El Negro" Hernandez, Robby Ameen, Dafnis Prieto, Terry Baker, Marvin McQuitty, Ignacio Berroa, Curtis Bernhard (bigblackdrummer), Nathaniel Townsley Jr., Jeremy Haynes, Dave Weckl, Steve Smith, Omar Hakim, Dennis Chambers, Alvaro Lopez.
...these guys are all very musical and are serious about making music.
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Stewart Copeland(!), Will Kennedy, Sting and Chaka Khan's music, Max Roach, Brian Blade, Bill Stewart,
Me'Shell's music, African-, Brasilian-, Carribbean drummers and, yes, Dafnis Prieto.
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Chris Coleman, Aaron Spears, Thomas Pridgen, Ron Brunner, Dana Hawkins, Vinnie C, Steve Gadd, Elvin Jones, Tony Williams, Chris Dave, Spanky, Booty, Teddy Campbell and more!!!!
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Marvin McQuitty
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as of right now Booty, Chris Dave, Thomas Pridgen,Chis Coleman and Spank
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jesus
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marvin mcquity......chris dave....rogerick green.......terry baker...and calvin rodgers...
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(1) Dennis Chambers
(2) Chris Dave
(3)Calvin Rodgers
(4)?uest Love
(5)Dave Welck
(6)Teddy Campbell
(7)Kahari Parker
(8)Gerald Haywood
Not in any order
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jeff "tain" watts, brain blade, elvin jones, dennis chambers, tonny williams, jack dejohnette, marvin mcquity, peter erskine, philly jo jones, papa jo jones, max roach, lenny white ;D ;D ;D
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There are too many to mention, however i just wanted to add one more to the list
Bill Stewart!!
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it's true there are too many to name b/c everyone I hear or see play influences my style......Jeremy Haynes, Ray Bady, John Blackwell, Benny Greb, Jo Jo Mayer, Vinnie, Every body on Gospel Chops, and my dad Sam Toomer " Mr. Rudiments".
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I'm a personal fan of this drummer names Tank who plays w/Jamareo Artis (Bassist from Omarion, Alicia Keys, etc.). Tank is an awfully amazing drummer who also I think plays with Damon Little from time to time but he is getting ready to blow up to the main circuit just like Jamareo, just watch.
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oh yea how can i forget about my boi erick tribbett
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David Garibaldi, Tony Royster Junior, and drum corp (2000, 2001, 2002, and 2004 Blue Devils).
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I'm going old school on yall.
1. The Late Yogi Horton(Luther Vandross)-He showed me how to play with power.
2. The Late Jeff Pocarro(Toto)-He showed me how to play with finesse.
3. Clyde Stubblefield(James Brown)-He showed me how to get funky.
4. Dennis Chambers-He showed me how to play the funk with power and finesse and how to get jazzy too.
5. Sheila E.- She showed me a way to play with speed and flair that I had never seen before.
6. John "J.R." Robinson-What can I say, he's a groove master.
7. Abe Foley(Guy, Najee, D'Angelo, Chico DeBarge)-He showed me pure power and about placing accents in the craziest of places.
8. Dave Weckl-I love his work. What more can I say?
9. Zoro(New Edition, Bobby Brown, Lenny Kravitz)-Molded my foot
10. Jonathan "Sugarfoot" Moffett(The Jacksons, Cameo, Madonna, Janet Jackson)-Also molded my foot.
Hopefully, my listing of some of these artists will cause no controversy in here. I just wanted to recognize who the drummers played for and how I became familiar with them.
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...nice list doc'. It's a proven fact that bass players just want drummers to hold that groove or pocket until its there turn to turn up the heat. Grooveology 101 by BigFoot.
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WILL KENNEDY, DAVE WECKLE, BUDDY RICH, JOEL SMITH, MY DAD!!!!!!!!
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Chris Andoh my mentor .... Instilled in me that all things are possible.
Omar hakim ..... saw him drum on a tV show called Rock School , which made "say i wanna do that too"
Dennis Chambers ... When I needed inspiration after i had run out of ideas and "plateaued"
J Haynes .... For his control over the kit. never knew you could make a drumeset sing. now that is anointing.
Calvin Rogders ..... I love studying this Kat, seems to be on top of his game
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LOL... this is funny to me... But my church drumers and my God sisters husband.
My God sister is married to Joel Smith (Plays for Love center in Oakland for Walter Hawkins) he has taught me how to have atrong pocket.
Then the drummers at my church, Taj and Dre have been the beiigest influences with creativity and also with my pocket.
Spaky and Tony Royster Jr. for a million other reasons. I gained some speed and style techniques watching and hearing him play. With Tony i have learned a bit more creativity and the are of flowing.
Its hard to pin point just one or two drumers, when a lot of people are bringing something diffrent to the table. I just like to sit and watch and learn.
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Ok I might get some negative feed back but here it is...
1. Jesus, God and The Holy Sprirt........Well it's because of them why I do what I do
1. My uncle......I watched him when I was young play at church and that's how got my start.
2. Mike Neuble......My first ever concert at West Angeles he taught me how to play like a pro in church.
3. Ron Pearson(bass player)....."Just stay in the pocket, I'll give time to shine" He showed me where to put my licks.
4. James or Jamie Gamble........Told me don't try to be like me be like you and who to listen to for my style.
5. Michael Bland..........Who told me you don't have to solo over everything and try singing background so you can get two checks.
6. Marvin Boone........Just to follow him while playing was influence.
7. Ahmir Thompson/Questlove............Told me to listen to all kinds of music.
8. Art Blakey..........Just his passion and facial expressions and to me one of the cleanist press rolls ever.
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Dennis Chambers/Vinnie Colaiuta/Dave Weckl - First time I heard these dudes, I was petrified. I don't play anything like them NOW, despite the fact that, once upon a time, I spent many a teary-eyed days trying to sight read their solos that I transcribed. Influenced my style because he was the first non-gospel drummers that I took a liking to.
Virgil Donati - The first drummer who made me feel okay about my dedication to the craft.
Chris "Daddy" Dave - The drummer who, after everytime I heard him play, made me feel more confident in my decision to find my own voice.
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Oh yeah... i forgot "Tootie" Heath!
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My top influences are:
Ladell Abrams
lDennis Chambers
Vinnie Colaiuta
Calvin Rodgers
Dave Weckl
Jeremy Haynes
Aaron Spears
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Chris Coleman.
Then from him comes everyone else that i have listened to. he just embodies them all like dave, vinnie, dennis, tony williams, etc.
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Chris "Daddy" Dave - The drummer who, after everytime I heard him play, made me feel more confident in my decision to find my own voice.
I second that...id also like 2 add Tony Williams Vinnie and Elvin Jones
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The man who is most recently contributing to my style is Dave Dicenso. look him up on youtube. this guy teaches one of my drum classes here and i actually have my first sit down with him one on one in about an hour and will be doing this everyweek !
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In some cases, not necessarily in order:
1. David Garibaldi - Not just super funky - the best ballad drummer, too.
2. Steve Smith - Incredible in every way
3. Dennis Chambers - The natural - & my bro plays guitar on his upcoming dvd
4. Tony Williams - Easily the drummer's drummer, visionary, innovator, sheer brilliance
5. Elvin Jones - Feel the music, Be the music, No rules
6. Zig Molediste - Raw funkitude
7. John Bonham - Brought serious deep groove to hard rock, was like Motown on steroids
8. Clyde Stubblefield - funky finesse and playing for the music
9. Ringo Starr - Ringo played for the song, not himself
10. Carly Barret - Marley's riddim man was another natural who's signature defined a style
11. Frank Zappa's drummers: Humphrey, Thompson, Dunbar, Bozzio, Colaiuta, and Wackerman
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1. Nisan Stewart - Pocket
2. Travis Barker - Pure Energy
3. Dennis Chambers - Speed & Creativity
4. Adrian Young - Energy
5. Shain Wilson - Speed & Creativity
6. Jeff Davis - Pocket
7. Gerald Heyward - Speed
8. George McCurdy - Speed & Creativity
9. Chris Dave - Creativity & Speed & Creativity
10. Aaron Spears - Speed, Creativity & Powe
Ther's a few more but I'll end it here!
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its so many drummers that have influenced my style. Of course, you have the regulars such as
1. Dave Weckl
2. Dennis Chambers
3. Gerald Heyward
4. Steve Gadd
5. Omar Hakim
6. Wil Kennedy
7. Jeremy Haynes
8. Aaron Spears
9. Chris Coleman
10. Chris Dave
11. Teddy Campbell
and the lists goes on..........
But there are also some drummers that aren't mentioned a whole lot but are great in their own right such as,
1. Jeff "tain" Watts
2. Eric Harland
3. Billy Kilson
4. Kevin Brunson
5. Nasheet Waits
6. Art Blakely
7. Terreon Gully
8. Greg Hutchison
9. Marvin "smitty" Smith
10. Sonny Payne
11. Jeff Ballard
12. Rodney Green
13. Lenny White
and SOOOOOOOOO many others!
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My Top people are
Thomas Pridgen
Tha Drumma Sheen
DaWay
JoJo Mayer
Steve Jordan
Jack Piolliti
Josh Eppard
Tony Royster
Antonio Sanchez
Nat Townsley
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Carlton Barrett and Sly Dunbar
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1. SEAN RICKMAN
2. AARON SPEARS
3. LADDELL ABRAHMS
4. DAVE WECKLE
5. VINNIE C.
6. HILARY JONES
7. CALVIN ROGERS
8.MARVIN MCQUITTY
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my cousin in virginia j haynes calvin rodgers ladell abrams
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1.Joey Oscar
2.Jeremy Haynes
3.Scooter
4.Big Mike
5.Chris Coleman
6.Spanky
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Kevin "Drumma Sheen" Hayden
Will Kennedy
Omar Hakim
Sting
Jeff"Tain" Watts
Billy Cobham
Anthony King (My Mentor)
Vince Latano ( The man who taught me how to swing in the 10th grade)
Henry Thomas Boney (My Uncle)
Bill Jackson ( like my DAD)
Bill Berry (lengendary Jazz Trumpetier)
Stewart Copland
Vinnie
Dennis
Rick Gratton
Helicio Melito
Dave Weckl
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My top influences are:
Ladell Abrams
lDennis Chambers
Vinnie Colaiuta
Calvin Rodgers
Dave Weckl
Jeremy Haynes
Aaron Spears
Thank you for saying Ladell Abrams man! gosh! Have you all forgotten?..lol...
Laddel Abrahms
Steve Jordan
Spanky
Vinnie C.
Nate Townsley 8)
Some of the guys I like... I try to learn from ALL of the drummers I see because they Influence my style...
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Growing up in DC, many drummers influensed me....
Ricky Wellman (Chuck Brown, Miles Davis)
JuJu House (EU)
Kevin Jackson (Prophecy)
Footz (Rare Essence)
On the Gospel Circuit
Jay Jay Williams, Gerald Hayward, Jeff Davis, Jimmy Russell, Marvin, Calvin Napper, Ladelle Abrams, Buggy, Eric Valentine, Warren Jones, Aarron..
Chambers, Vinnie, Dave, Mouse JB's drummer and any drummer who has toured with Prince
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(No Order)
1. Spanky
2. Steve Williams
3.Jared Owens
4.Mark Mondesir
5.Ron Bruner Jr.
6.Carter Beuford
7.Thomas Pridgen
8.Mr Weckl
9.Nat Townsley
10.Booty
-jus too much to name!!!!
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Influences
Peers 1.JHaynes,CRogers,CColeman,Spanky,ASpears,MMcQuitty,CCoonNapier,GHaywood,NTownsley,WALLY(DRUMMER 4 YPJ&FVC)
TCampbell,GMayes,AllDrummers on this site
Mentors= DChambers,DWeckl,VC,WKennedy,VDonti,SEmory,JoelSmith,JeffDavis,KBrunson,OscarSeaton,Horatio ELNEGRO Hernandez
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1)Jeremy Haynes
2)Dana Davis
3)Marvin Mcquitty
4)Billy Cohbham
5)Dave Wekle
6)Denis Chambers
7)Calven Rogers
8) ? Love
9)Chris( Daddy) Dave
There are really more but ill take all day fam! ;D ;D
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ladell abrams
dennis chambers
akira jimbo
calvin rodgers
tony royster jr
chris kee
chris dave
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Man....i would have to say
tony royster jr most def...gerald heyward...spank...kevin walker...marvin mcquitty..calvin rogers...and hez's drummer....oh yeah buddy rich...and bob cobham
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Dave Weckl
Will Kennedy
Dejaun Watson
Calvin Rodgers
Thomas Pridgen
Chris Dave
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WOW AFTER DOING SOME SOUL SEARCHING! ;D I FOUND OUT THAT IM NOT GETTING ANYTHING FROM THESE MUSICIANS BECAUSE IM SO WORRIED OF LISTENING TO THERE LICKS AND I JUST IGNORE THE WHOLE MUSICIANSHIP THAT MAYBE I COULD BE FEEDING OFF! NOW I NEED TO GET ON MY GRIND! JFUNKY HAS BEEN TELLING ME I NEED TO LISTEN TO EVERYTHING AND WELL... GET ON MY GRIND BASICALLY SORRY DAWG! 8) AND HOTSTICKS THANX 4 THIS POST MANN IT REALLY OPEN MY EYES!!!
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All!
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What we may all benefit from is realizing the difference in enjoying a drummer and actually being influenced by a drummer. There are many more drummers that I enjoy listening to, but I don't walk away with anything more when I finish listening to them. It's just enjoyment. I could have named names all day (as is probably the case with all of us), but honestly, the topic was supposed to be HOW these guys influenced us. If you can just name names, are you influenced and bettered by their playing, or is it just someone you like listening to?
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What we may all benefit from is realizing the difference in enjoying a drummer and actually being influenced by a drummer. There are many more drummers that I enjoy listening to, but I don't walk away with anything more when I finish listening to them. It's just enjoyment. I could have named names all day (as is probably the case with all of us), but honestly, the topic was supposed to be HOW these guys influenced us. If you can just name names, are you influenced and bettered by their playing, or is it just someone you like listening to?
good point...as for me and my list, i was influenced to play better. :)
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What we may all benefit from is realizing the difference in enjoying a drummer and actually being influenced by a drummer. There are many more drummers that I enjoy listening to, but I don't walk away with anything more when I finish listening to them. It's just enjoyment. I could have named names all day (as is probably the case with all of us), but honestly, the topic was supposed to be HOW these guys influenced us. If you can just name names, are you influenced and bettered by their playing, or is it just someone you like listening to?
Exactly. On my list, I broke down what each drummer did to influence my playing. That is the main reason I did that. Those particular ones stood out more versus the more common names listed. I do enjoy many of the other drummers listed such as Gerald Heyward, Chris Dave, Aaron Spears, Sput, Doobie, Spanky, etc. But I did not list them on the premise that they were possibly influenced in some way by some of the same drummers I listed.
Hopefully many of you are listing them and really paying attention to what they do versus just learning the licks so you can turn it out when you play. Also at the same time, not emulating them verbatim, but letting them inspire you to be better and create your own niche as each of them have in their own unique way. Let your influence be about pure musicianship instead of showmanship.
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My biggest influence I would have to say is Third. We have been hanging over the last few months and he has just help me build up my confidence and giving me pointers. He causes me to want to work harder to really craft my gift, anything is achievable if you work at it not just in music but in life. Oh yeah and he showed me some really nice feels too.
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1.Jeremy Haynes
2.Calvin Rodgers
3.Spanky
4.Sput
5.Mad Marvin
6.Pudge Tribbet
7.Teddy Cambell
8.Tony Royster
9.Nissan Stewart
10.Big Eric Moore
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I' am musically confused right now...hehe..for real though...I don't know what I like...well I do but...I dunno...it's weird...lol...GB
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Paul Liem
John JR Robertson
Vinnie C
Dave Weckl
Mike Clemons
Calvin Rodgers
Virgil Denotti
Art Blakley
Marvin Mcquitty
Steve Gadd
Neil Peart
And lots lots more!!!
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1- Chris Dave (So interesting, made me wanna learn more)
2- Neil Peart (Cauht me slippin, made me go practice some of his licks)
3- Dave Weckl ( Not really his licks, but his placement and positioning on the kit)
4- Aaron Spears (Speed+Power+Clarity....YIKES)
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Here are my people:
Teddy Campell-pocket, humblenesss
Eric Seats-The intro to the Soul Seekers DVD and pocket
Thomas Lang-POWER and Showmanship
Spanky-SPEED and Just because
Sheila E- As Women, we just look hot playing drums
Terry Lyne Carrington-Feel of Jazz and Women Rock on Set
Buddy Rich-Just because
Kim Thompson and Nikki Glaspie-WOMEN ROCK ON SET!!!!!!!!Point Blank
Alan Evans(from Soulive)-pocket
There you have it people.
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Here are my people:
Teddy Campell-pocket, humblenesss
Eric Seats-The intro to the Soul Seekers DVD and pocket
Thomas Lang-POWER and Showmanship
Spanky-SPEED and Just because
Sheila E- As Women, we just look hot playing drums
Terry Lyne Carrington-Feel of Jazz and Women Rock on Set
Buddy Rich-Just because
Kim Thompson and Nikki Glaspie-WOMEN ROCK ON SET!!!!!!!!Point Blank
Alan Evans(from Soulive)-pocket
There you have it people.
How can I forget Tony Royster Jr. He is doing it for the youngins!!
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Here are my people:
Teddy Campell-pocket, humblenesss
Eric Seats-The intro to the Soul Seekers DVD and pocket
Thomas Lang-POWER and Showmanship
Spanky-SPEED and Just because
Sheila E- As Women, we just look hot playing drums
Terry Lyne Carrington-Feel of Jazz and Women Rock on Set
Buddy Rich-Just because
Kim Thompson and Nikki Glaspie-WOMEN ROCK ON SET!!!!!!!!Point Blank
Alan Evans(from Soulive)-pocket
There you have it people.
People are sleep on Alan Evans! He is the groove theory!
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This question is like asking what foods you have eaten throughout your life time. well here goes...
Notable cats: Lil' John Roberts, Teddy Campbell, Chris Coleman, Dennis Chambers, Derico Watson, Jeremy Haynes, Vinnie Colaiuta, Steve Gadd, Stewart Copeland, Nathaniel Townsley, Benny Greb, Mike Portnoy, Steve Smith, Ricky Lawson, Joel Smith, Mario Winans, Dana Davis, Robert Sput Seawright, Jeff Davis
The cats I grew up listening to: Yolonda Johnson (teacher and aunt) James Nelson Jr. (Baltimore), Phonzy (DC), Cotton (Baltimore), Pudge, Eric Tribbett, Steve McCoy (Baltimore), Ralph Lofton (Baltimore), Royal Higgins (Baltimore), Hopeton Mair (DC), Corey Baker (Baltimore), Reese Parker (Baltimore), William Thomas Jr. (Baltimore), Ronald Woods Jr. (DC), Jaque Peebles (DC)
many many more...
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my big influences are:
Christopher Coleman
DeMiyon Hall
Calvin Napper
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being that im from the east coast i would have to say Kevin Camp (berklee), Daniel Powell, Jason Bowman, Aaron, Gerald, Skeeter, Billy Powell, Doobie Powell, Joy and Dexter...But i think everybody I hear everywhere gives me inspiration
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the best man out right now!! Calvin Rodgers!!!!!!!!!
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GREAT TOPIC
ARNOLD BAYMOND(DRUMMER AT MY HOME CHURCH AND MY VERY FIRST INFLUENCE)
CLYDE DAVIS(MY MENTOR FOR YEARS)
JOEL SMITH(LISTENING TO HIM ON DRUMS CHANGED MY LIFE. I REFER TO HIM, AND A COUPLE OTHERS AS "MY REASON...)
TEDDY CAMPBELL(I COULD WRITE A BOOK ON WHY THIS CAT IS SO DOPE)
WILL KENNEDY(LISTENING TO WILL TEACHES YOU ABOUT DYNAMICS, STROKE AND FEEL. HE TOTALLY EMBRACES EVERY PART HE PLAYS)
RICKY LAWSON(SOLID!!!! WATCH THE MICHEAL JACKSON DVD, LIVE IN BUCHAREST. HE PLAYS THE MOST INCREDIBLE SOLID POCKET FOR LIKE 10 MINUTES WHILE MJ DANCES. HE NEVER MOVES)
TERRY BAKER(THIS GUY WROTE THE BOOK ON CUTTING RECORDS)
JEREMY HAYNES(HIS COLOR AROUND THE KIT IS AMAZING)
REX HARDY(BLAZING!!!!!)
DAVE WECKL(THIS GUY IS SOOOOO MUCH MORE THAN JUST A GREAT DRUMMER. ONE OF THE BEST, IN MY OPINION)
VINNIE COLAIUTA(I HAVE NO WORDS TO EXPRESS WHAT I FEEL WHEN I WATCH HIM PLAY...THE BEST!!!!)
GERALD HEYWARD(I SPENT MANY DAYS SHEDDING TO THOSE EARLY HEZEKIAH WALKER SESSIONS)
SPANKY(GREAT PLAYER)
PUDGE(A GREAT GUY AND A GREAT DRUMMER)
KEVIN KELLY(GREAT TECHNIQUE)
AARON SPEARS(MIND BLOWING)
THESE ARE DRUMMERS THAT I MAY REFERENCE TO MOST OFTEN, IN MY PLAYING. STAY UP
C. RODGERS
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Man so many to choose from But here it goes
Calvin Rogers
Marv. McQuitty
Gerald Heyward
Thomas Pridgen
Dennis Chambers
Aaron Spears
last but no least.........Steve Smith
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Marvin M., Spanky, Calvin R., Carter B., Dave W., Terry B., and Tony R jr.
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People are sleep on Alan Evans! He is the groove theory!
THANK YOU!!!!!!!THe SMOOTHEST pocket known to man. With fills in between.
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I would have to say these guys right here. Steve Gadd, Dennis Chambers, Dave Weckl, Buddy Rich, Gerald, Aaron, Teddy, Mavin, Cindy Blackman, Hilary Jones, John Blackwell, Mike Portnoy, Keith Carlock, Nat Townsley.
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Omar Hakim
Chris Dave
Terreon Gully
Vinnie Colaiuta